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Urgent advice possibly have a grandchild

117 replies

Candystardaisy87 · 10/08/2024 10:29

Hi all , I'm going to get straight to the point here
This is specifically aimed at those of you in the know about this subject, factual info only please.
Social workers, those that work within the law ? Or those who have actually been through something similar and can share thier own experiences of this would be very helpful.

My son has arrived home for the summer from university, he has just been informed that he could be the father of a child.
The baby has already been born.
The mother of the baby lives very far away from us .
There is a possibility the baby could be his , however there are also 2 other potential fathers of this baby.
As soon as my son found out there could be a possibility he acted so supportive and mature ( hes 19) he is desperate to find out if he is this baby's biological father, as so am I.
This is obviously not the most ideal situation, however neither of us cares , we just want to know if this baby is our child/ grandchild so we can support the baby , be part of its life and support mum of need be.
Please advise us where we go from here , how do we go about getting a dna test ? Not an internet ordered one. We want a proper dna test through the courts etc. My son is saying he is determined not to let this child down and be part of its life however we need to know for certain before we go any further.
I would appreciate any advice given, than you.

OP posts:
Zonder · 10/08/2024 14:19

Well said @Fifiesta

Ohcrap082024 · 10/08/2024 14:27

@Candystardaisy87 I’m sorry that I can not provide any useful advice about DNA testing etc. I just wanted to say that I think some have given you a rough ride on this thread.

As the mother of teens myself, I think you to doing the absolute best thing in helping your DS navigate a really tricky situation. I wish you all the very best.

Candystardaisy87 · 10/08/2024 15:11

MessyNeate · 10/08/2024 14:09

Wow op some of the replies on this thread!!!

As someone who's been there. I was 39, son was 18. We only found out a few weeks before baby was born because mum didn't want her family to know so kept the secret all to herself

I paid for a dna test. We swabbed inside babies cheek, swabbed DS's cheek, I think I paid around £300.

Result was very clear and took a few days,

You'd have to travel to baby.

I think you're doing the right thing, don't worry about any other potential fathers, that's on them if they want to pay for a dna test,

We inevitably didn't want to fall in love with this little baby boy if he wasn't ours, he is ours, and I think once we met him we knew, he had a few distinct family features, he's 4 now and I have a great relationship with him and his mum!

Becoming a grandma at 39 was a shock

But now I find it amusing when I tell people ima grandma 😁

Thank you for this:)

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YankSplaining · 10/08/2024 15:14

I don’t know why people are being so harsh with you, OP. Of course you and your son want to know if he’s the father, and it reflects well on him that he’s dealing head-on with the situation.

Bectoria2006 · 10/08/2024 15:30

So many harsh replies!

Your DS sounds like he is doing the right thing. Getting a DNA test should be fairly simple as the ex is open to it, just make sure it is a reputable one and take it from there.

And let us know the results as I am now way too invested in the outcome 😂

Candystardaisy87 · 10/08/2024 15:35

I've had some helpful replies , thank you for those. In regards to the dna testing , we are willing to pay for this as she has told us she has no money and very little support. I'm just wondering what happens if she lives far away ? Will she need to attend the gp in her area for testing? Or would we need to visit them?

OP posts:
Despair1 · 10/08/2024 15:41

Candystardaisy87 · 10/08/2024 13:27

Hi thanks for the replies & advice. He has only just found out this week about the baby. He told me straight away. She was his ex girlfriend at the same university however she left and moved back to where she was from not telling him why at the time.
They were in a relationship, he has only just found out that she was unfaithful during this time. He is being very grown up and not judging her in the slightest as his main concern is the baby.
They have been on contact via msgs this week, she and I met last year and got on very well.
She lives 5 hours away from us.
We were advised an internet dna test wouldnt stand up in court if needed to in the future? Not sure how true this is.
For the person that is judgemental, my son is doing everything he can to be a good man & do the right thing here. Hes more mature than I would have been at 19 that's for sure!

Edited

I am commending you and your son for wanting what is in the best interests of the baby and mother; that is something that cannot be assumed or taken for granted( I talk from experience). I haven't read any of the posts knocking the parents, don't want to either; shame on those who have done so

70isaLimitNotaTarget · 10/08/2024 15:45

Genuine question- what happens if the mother refuses to have the DNA test done.
Se cannot put the man’s name on the birth certificate without him being present as they aren’t married.

Would this then have to go through the courts ?

Conniebygaslight · 10/08/2024 15:58

Candystardaisy87 · 10/08/2024 13:30

The mother of course

Not of course at all….it wasn’t clear in your OP. Is the mother willing to assist with the DNA test?

Conniebygaslight · 10/08/2024 16:08

Your poor son must be all over the place, having this bombshell dropped upon him. He sounds like an absolute credit to you and you sound really supportive which is what he needs. I hope you get some answers soon OP.

Temporarynameforthisone · 10/08/2024 16:17

Social workers frequent the adoption board I would move your post to that board for correct advice from people who know.

Bectoria2006 · 10/08/2024 16:26

Candystardaisy87 · 10/08/2024 15:35

I've had some helpful replies , thank you for those. In regards to the dna testing , we are willing to pay for this as she has told us she has no money and very little support. I'm just wondering what happens if she lives far away ? Will she need to attend the gp in her area for testing? Or would we need to visit them?

I’m pretty sure that she can just go to her local GP.

BESTAUNTB · 10/08/2024 16:43

YankSplaining · 10/08/2024 15:14

I don’t know why people are being so harsh with you, OP. Of course you and your son want to know if he’s the father, and it reflects well on him that he’s dealing head-on with the situation.

Yes!

SprigatitoYouAndIKnow · 10/08/2024 16:46

I don't even think he needs to have a court approved dna test right now. Any dna test would show if he is the father or not, if court was needed down the line, it could surely be redone with the original as supporting evidence.it sounds like she is open to testing, contact and support. Keep everything friendly make a plan once results are in.

ChimbarasiKotapaxi · 10/08/2024 17:08

OP Respect to you and your son

TheSquareMile · 10/08/2024 17:12

Candystardaisy87 · 10/08/2024 15:35

I've had some helpful replies , thank you for those. In regards to the dna testing , we are willing to pay for this as she has told us she has no money and very little support. I'm just wondering what happens if she lives far away ? Will she need to attend the gp in her area for testing? Or would we need to visit them?

@Candystardaisy87

Is there someone who can help her with what she needs in terms of accommodation and money, OP?

You say that she has no money and I'm concerned that this means that she and the baby have nowhere to live.

ListentotheButterflies · 10/08/2024 17:14

The mum is contacting all the men she's had sex with because she's hard up and wants child maintenance. She clearly didn't give a moment's consideration to the trauma this could bring to 3 (or more) men and waited until the baby arrived when she realised she had no money.

We dont know what contraception she/they were using but I think she should have some idea of who the father might be, unless she was having sex with 3 men in very quick succession.

I feel sorry for your son as this woman doesn't come over as considerate .

TheGreenKnight · 10/08/2024 17:18

Sorry OP you will never win against Mumsnet hypocrisy. If he’d said he wanted nothing to do with the child he would be castigated. If he wants to do the right thing his motives are questioned. Good on him for wanting to be the best Dad he can.

nonewsday · 10/08/2024 17:27

Candystardaisy87 · 10/08/2024 13:37

I am quite disappointed by some of these comments, I am a feminist however I have now seen from another pov , the mans side how awful women can turn. He is 19 years old! He is trying to be a good man! And yet still slated ... disgraceful

Yep it's always the same on here! Men can never ever win. He wants to be involved you ask for advice he is still slated. It annoys me so so much!

TheSquareMile · 10/08/2024 17:30

Candystardaisy87 · 10/08/2024 15:35

I've had some helpful replies , thank you for those. In regards to the dna testing , we are willing to pay for this as she has told us she has no money and very little support. I'm just wondering what happens if she lives far away ? Will she need to attend the gp in her area for testing? Or would we need to visit them?

@Candystardaisy87

I wonder whether the service offered by King's College could be the one for you, OP. It sounds as though the baby's mother would be open to discussion about this possibility.

It says: "a sampling kit [can be] sent to a medical professional of your choice".

I'm wondering whether both your son and the baby's mother could make an appointment with their respective GPs to say that this is something they need to do, so that the GPs can agree to having the tests delivered to their surgeries. In the case of the mother, this may open the door to the support she needs in other respects; it doesn't sound as though things are going very well for her.

https://www.kcl.ac.uk/forensics/accredited-services/dna-analysis-kings

OlympicBlue · 10/08/2024 17:31

Just get an approved test to find out to start with. If he’s going to be acknowledges s father you can repeat one on the future if needed, but keep everyone on side and make it as easy as possible atm, you can do one pretty quickly. You don’t need a court one unless fighting for custody which doesn’t sound like is the case here so just find out if he is the father to start with with one of the suggestions here.

Candystardaisy87 · 10/08/2024 17:38

Conniebygaslight · 10/08/2024 15:58

Not of course at all….it wasn’t clear in your OP. Is the mother willing to assist with the DNA test?

Apologies if that came across as rude. I didnt mean it to. I kind of meant for us to want to go as far as paternity testing I would had to hear the news directly from the mother herself

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Candystardaisy87 · 10/08/2024 17:39

Temporarynameforthisone · 10/08/2024 16:17

Social workers frequent the adoption board I would move your post to that board for correct advice from people who know.

Thank you, I am not sure how to move the thread?

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Candystardaisy87 · 10/08/2024 17:41

TheSquareMile · 10/08/2024 17:12

@Candystardaisy87

Is there someone who can help her with what she needs in terms of accommodation and money, OP?

You say that she has no money and I'm concerned that this means that she and the baby have nowhere to live.

I was really concerned about her welfare too. I've had a chat with her & the council have just found her & the baby a place. I think the reason she has a social worker is because she has no support from her family whatsoever . Poor girl, I really feel for her.

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Excited101 · 10/08/2024 17:42

No criticism here, you and your son sound like you’re taking a really great stance on all this- well done!

I’m about to be a mum for the first time at 38, grandparent at one year older is blowing my mind!

good luck op, I hope it all works out for you- do keep us updated if you can.