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Quiet neighbours now making noise.

589 replies

OpalBird · 10/08/2024 07:48

My neighbours talked to us about the noise coming from our property. OK, my son has a hobby that does make an annoying noise. Since then we have made sure he's doing it less but we obviously aren't going to stop him completely. They haven't said anything since and I think we've been considerate in reducing the number of hours our son does his thing.

It seems like they've now decided that they are allowed to make more noise. We've been neighbours for years and they've always been quiet. Now we get occasional music or radio in their backyard. When I asked them about it they said they have always worn headphones to be considerate but they don't really like listening that way, so they thought it was fair they got to have their hobbies the way they enjoy them best as well.

Would I be unreasonable to complain to them again? There is a difference between children playing and music when they have the option of headphones.

OP posts:
DarkForces · 10/08/2024 11:27

OpalBird · 10/08/2024 10:45

Plan: Apologise to neighbours for noise over a long time. Apologise for complaining about their music at all. Tell them I didn't realise just how grating it can be. See if we can work out times it would work for everyone. I am going to ask not tell, whether half an hour a day would be within what they can accept. If not, I will look into a rubber lawn area, as suggested.

Sounds like a plan. Well done for listening. I think implementing ways to make it quieter before the conversation would help so you can try to create a more positive environment before talking about timings. Most people are pretty forgiving if you genuinely apologise and admit you got it wrong ime

EarthSight · 10/08/2024 11:29

OpalBird · 10/08/2024 07:55

The basketball is only about half an hour at a time, a few times a day. Their music yesterday was for two hours. We've got our son down to no more than three or four times a day now, so it's not excessive. It used to be twice that. So we've done something about it.

So in aggregate, your neighbour is having to hear the bouncing for 1.5hrs - 2 hrs every day? It great that your son is active, but can't he go out somewhere and do this?

BurntBroccoli · 10/08/2024 11:29

BigBoysDontCry · 10/08/2024 08:16

There is somewhere else to put it. In a skip where it belongs.

So your DS is 13 and they think they've got what, 5 more years to enjoy listening to him bouncing a ball for hours every day and you think they are unreasonable? Fucks sake.

Does it not disturb you when you are working at home?

It probably doesn't disturb OP as she has more control of the situation and can ask her son to stop playing.
The poor neighbours can't. Psychological torture for them not knowing when the "thud, thud, thud" is going to start again. Their cortisol levels will be raised and they will be very stressed.

Otherstories2002 · 10/08/2024 11:30

ballershotcallerr · 10/08/2024 11:10

Brits are really precious about basketball noise. Almost every driveway in the US with kids has a hoop. Or they drag it into the street. Honestly, it's fine.

do you live in England? Its not comparable.

MySereneDeer · 10/08/2024 11:31

alldayeveryday247 · 10/08/2024 11:15

Yes, because you say it's a noise that is very common, expected and accepted in the states.

And one that people probably make themselves if most homes with kids will have a basketball hoop.

Over here it's not nearly as common, so is a lot more grating and intrusive for people to have to listen to.

Houses tend to be much further apart in the US. Additionally, the way many US homes are laid out would mean thumping from a ball being bounced on a driveway in front of an attached garage would be much more muffled in most rooms of the house than thumping right next to the fence to the back garden.

Snazzysausage · 10/08/2024 11:31

OpalBird · 10/08/2024 11:05

When the weather allows.

Dear lord it gets worse.
"when the weather allows"
So most of the year they're on tenterhooks just waiting for the the thump thump thump and praying for gale force winds and rain no doubt.

Hodge00079 · 10/08/2024 11:31

Temporarynamechange102 · 10/08/2024 11:17

I think the noise caused by your son and the noise caused by your neighbours both fall within in the realms of normal, acceptable noise. If it was 2am every night then this would be unreasonable.

Please could some one tell me what "this is a reverse" means??

The OP is actually the other party. OP is really music player. Normally when behaviour is so bizarre a normal person could not justify it so they reverse parties involved.

HospitalitySux · 10/08/2024 11:31

OpalBird · 10/08/2024 10:45

Plan: Apologise to neighbours for noise over a long time. Apologise for complaining about their music at all. Tell them I didn't realise just how grating it can be. See if we can work out times it would work for everyone. I am going to ask not tell, whether half an hour a day would be within what they can accept. If not, I will look into a rubber lawn area, as suggested.

Good plan.

Though I still can't quite believe you were so self unaware that you needed to have this spelled out for you by other people.

Southener · 10/08/2024 11:33

The lack of awareness on this post reminds me of one of my neighbours out the back of our row of terraces.

Every summer, he opens his upstairs window and plays his music really loud. He's got the most bizarre taste too, everything from D&B through to Gerry and the Pacemakers.

On a few occasions we've been in the garden with friends and it's been booming. We've joined in singing along to the ones we know, and every time we do that he gets the right hump and slams his window shut. Brass neck of him is amusing.

magicmole · 10/08/2024 11:33

OpalBird · 10/08/2024 08:59

He plays on and off through the day. Yesterday it was three times. When he's at school often once before school and up to three times after. Times are random. I obviously need to think about this some more.

On and off. At completely random times throughout the day. No wonder they're unhappy.

OpalBird · 10/08/2024 11:34

HospitalitySux · 10/08/2024 11:31

Good plan.

Though I still can't quite believe you were so self unaware that you needed to have this spelled out for you by other people.

I'm not saying I agree. It is an overwhelming majority though so there has to be something to it. I think the earlier poster just a little bit back was right when she said it's easier to bear when you have control of it. I asked. What's the point if I don't take an overwhelming majority on board?

OP posts:
RightOnTheEdge · 10/08/2024 11:36

The OP has admitted that they were BU, is going to talk to the neighbours and reach a compromise and posters are still piling on and falling over themselves to stick the boot in and accusing her of being a troll for saying people go about their lives before 10.20am Hmm

It's a shame that you don't live near a park with a hoop OP.
I think that silent basket ball looks like a great idea.

YourWildAmberSloth · 10/08/2024 11:37

OpalBird · 10/08/2024 08:06

Maybe I need to talk to them and ask what they think they can tolerate.

Maybe leave it as it is - you are both being inconvenienced by the other. Unless your son is going to stop playing basketball at home completely, they are going to feel (quite rightly) that you have no right to complain about occasional noise coming from their side.

crockofshite · 10/08/2024 11:42

OpalBird · 10/08/2024 07:55

The basketball is only about half an hour at a time, a few times a day. Their music yesterday was for two hours. We've got our son down to no more than three or four times a day now, so it's not excessive. It used to be twice that. So we've done something about it.

Can your son time at least some of his basketball to coincide when the neighbours are out? work, shop, day out etc? They must leave the house sometimes.

Anyway if I had to live next to that sort of constant thumping I'd be putting on some very loud annoying music and pointing the speakers towards it so the basketball player knows what it's like to live with.

Cerealkiller4U · 10/08/2024 11:42

OpalBird · 10/08/2024 07:55

The basketball is only about half an hour at a time, a few times a day. Their music yesterday was for two hours. We've got our son down to no more than three or four times a day now, so it's not excessive. It used to be twice that. So we've done something about it.

There’s is 2 hpurs

yours is 2 hours

i I mean. And?!?!

ballershotcallerr · 10/08/2024 11:43

@Otherstories2002 I do. How is it not comparable? Are basketballs quieter in the US?

Flossflower · 10/08/2024 11:45

OP I have very considerate neighbours. Their son likes basket ball too. He plays about once a day for about half an hour in the early evening.
If your son wants to play more than this could you find a club for him?

Cerealkiller4U · 10/08/2024 11:45

OpalBird · 10/08/2024 08:04

It could be argued it's inconsiderate and selfish to not allow a child their hobby. Maybe I'll limit it to three sessions a day but I think any less is not fair to my son.

Then they will be able to play music at least 90 mins each day then 🤷‍♀️

Twicedaily · 10/08/2024 11:45

igiveuptrying · 10/08/2024 11:03

igiveuptrying how did you find this? do you know if they really work? I’m keen to get one for myself now! If I were opalbird I’d be straight onto ordering it and telling neighbours along with that plan of apology and discussion. We had to tell neighbours how badly their son’s basketball ball thumping was. We didn’t want to stop him just make them aware and see if we could compromise like play when we’re away it was so bad. They remain good neighbours.

Otherstories2002 · 10/08/2024 11:45

ballershotcallerr · 10/08/2024 11:43

@Otherstories2002 I do. How is it not comparable? Are basketballs quieter in the US?

The houses are spaced considerably further apart and they have actual spaces for playing aren’t immediately by a neighbours window.

Hodge00079 · 10/08/2024 11:45

OpalBird · 10/08/2024 11:34

I'm not saying I agree. It is an overwhelming majority though so there has to be something to it. I think the earlier poster just a little bit back was right when she said it's easier to bear when you have control of it. I asked. What's the point if I don't take an overwhelming majority on board?

I thought you had a change of heart but I guess not. I guess there really are entitled people like you in the world.

You think it would be selfish to stop son but are not prepared to put yourself out. If it was that important you would change garden. Instead much better to reduce neighbours enjoyment in their home at set times.

Namename12345562 · 10/08/2024 11:46

I was going to say that was a bit unfair on you when you said you got the basketball down to 30 mins a day but then you said 30 mins a day a few times a day. I think the neighbours are being fair enough tbh…

menohnopausal · 10/08/2024 11:47

Well done OP for taking the "feedback"(!?) on board, and for remaining polite in the face of some fairly venomous replies. IMO this makes you a better potential neighbour than many on here!

GreenIvyy · 10/08/2024 11:48

Do your neighbours use their garden a lot op or have friends/family over much?

Cerealkiller4U · 10/08/2024 11:49

OpalBird · 10/08/2024 08:59

He plays on and off through the day. Yesterday it was three times. When he's at school often once before school and up to three times after. Times are random. I obviously need to think about this some more.

You let him play basketball BEFORE SCHOOL?£??

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