To think Keir Starmer holds a lot of sway?

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Former Director of Public Prosecutions. Now PM.
Following the 'civil unrest' last week, several perpetrators have been not only arrested and jailed, but publicly named and shamed, the speed of which I have never seen before.
Our PM clearly knows the right people to get things rolling quickly.
This, combined with the anti racism protestors, gives me a glimmer of hope for the future. I feel in safe(ish) hands with Keir.AIBU?

Nothing wrong with it at all. I’m more worried that you’re appalled.

Quoting to spam out the racists up thread. 😘

The most I will say for KS and YC is that they haven't cocked it up by sending mixed messages, which the last lot may well have done

Yes, they've been consistent and firm.
Can you imagine the last lot?!.
It'd more than likely been a lot of dithering, several mixed messages all contradicting each others with a few more "stop the boats" thrown in for good measure.

The former Labour Councillor did not enter a plea at Westminster Magistrates’ Court on Friday. He’ll go lawyered up to the Crown Court while the little people who immediately admitted their wrongdoing went to jail the same day.

i won’t comment on the Labour Councillor’s case as proceedings are active. But let’s watch it go to trial in due course, and compare his sentence with the sentence of a twit on X with 150 followers, no megaphone, no position of authority within his community, who went nowhere near any protest or riot. Just stupid comments on X that he copied. Other people charged include a homeless guy, a young man with autism. I’m not sure this is justice being done. These people are victims really. Many of them will have had social services files in childhood.

I voted Remain in 2016. We all know immigration was the underlying reason for the annoying people who brought us Brexit. Their racism comes from inequality. Blair paid them tax credits to buy their silence, Conservatives promised them Levelling Up. Politicians of all flavours are to blame. Their concerns are not addressed via authoritarian manoeuvres.

I’m unimpressed by Starmer.

Their racism comes from inequality.

Does it? What’s Yardley-Lennon’s excuse?

Have Labour actually done this, do you have a link because the article @Blossomtoes linked to was written 2 months ago in the run up to the election.

They pledged to do it in their manifesto but as we know that means nothing.

So I shall wait and see if it's all just hot air.

Hence “Two tier policing”

It does seem to be the case in some instances-

It should be scrupulously fair across the board.

A punch is a punch, after all.

In Labour's manifesto on immigration it says "we will create a fair system and stop the boat crossings".

To be fair, they didn't say they'd meet all their manifesto commitments in 4 weeks - that's just disgruntled Tories interpreting it that way.

There should definitely be classification in place.
soon people will be arrested for “ Wrongthink”

Look at the furore that has erupted around XY in XX sports in the last year or so.

Yeah, I mean at least give 'em a chance to, they can't do everything straight away 😁

There should definitely be classification in place.soon people will be arrested for “ Wrongthink

🙄

I am reminded of the late great Bob Monkhouse's joke at an Amnesty gig:
My brother in law is in prison for his beliefs.
He believed he could wank on the bus.
😂😂😂

😁 not heard that one before 😁

My post was in response to a pp saying that conservatives would have said "stop the boats". I am pointing out that Labour have said they will do this as well. I didn't mention 4 weeks.

This. Spot on.

We all know immigration was the underlying reason for the annoying people who brought us Brexit.

I'm trying to unpack this 🤔

I do think that there were a small number of Brexit ideologues for whom a dislike of foreigners, and therefore immigration, was the underlying reason.

But I think for many more Tory Brexiteers it was more about perceived economic constraints of the EU, and wanting to be a more low tax, low regulation country.

But as for the Brexit voters, at least the ones who voiced objections to immigration, I would say the underlying reason was poor quality public services.

Now, both sides are familiar with the arguments regarding how immigration affects the provision of public services.

Bit I really don't think many people would be that bothered (not enough to vote for Brexit) if they could all get doctors appointments, dentist, decent schools and housing etc

So on the one hand Starmer has nothing to do with the response, it's all down to the police and CPS.

On the other he's brought in draconian laws in the last 4 weeks that nobody noticed.

Hilarious.

I mean, there's always been multi-tier policing.

Ever heard of the offence of "driving while black"?

There's lots of work to do to get nearer the "scrupulously fair" system you seem to want.

If I think back to the 2011 riots after the police shot and killed Mark Duggan, (a black man), and this episode now, it seems the policing is pretty similar.

But, comparing those two sets of civil unrest, is it really the white nationalists who are trying to burn down mosques that you have sympathy for?

Apologies if you are an active anti-racist who has invested a lot of time and effort into countering systematic bias in the criminal justice system.

I can only tell you that the left leaning posters police here would be delighted with the hate speech law. You can’t even ask a question or engage in debate. They decide what is hate speech and the site apparently ignore the calls to delete posts. Of course not the case and they just want an echo chamber.

At least I am glad that the police is safe to be defunded for now. Even though KS took the knee that time back. 😉

Wrong. I know people who've been voicing the need for unity and tolerance, who've had their FB/IG accounts suspended/restricted. There is definitely a clampdown on free speech.

Does it need pointing out that commercial entity can set a policy on who gets to use its services? No social media owes anyone access; it can cut you off at any t…

I am loving people finding out that there are actually penalties for inciting hatred online. The law has been there for ages, it just hasn’t been applied to a case so well reported.

This isn’t a new law. Perhaps this might discourage people from believe they are untouchable for spreading hateful, baseless, violent rhetoric online.

And I can’t get upset about the idea that online ‘freedom’ of speech might be affected. Some people need to be having quite a long think before they post moronic, factually incorrect things that incite societal division.

Well I hope they do not got back to posts here when Tories were in. Some posts were really/shocking.