If Brighton can protest peacefully so can the

[WeAreManyUArefew]

So called ‘protesters’ from the far right?

6 racists turned up to a immigration advice centre in Brighton, 2,000 peaceful counter protesters played instruments, sang, chanted ‘We are many you are few, we are Brighton who are you!’

There was no trouble, just a lot of people making a point.

So if we can do it, without racist language, violence, looting etc why can’t they? They were fine, a ring of normal police ( no riot gear needed) surrounded the bigots then removed them in a van.

YANBU - they are racist right wing thugs. It’s no real protesting.

YABU - they’re legit. And if they want to smash up the place then it’s because they’re provoked by ‘2 tier’ policing.

Brighton has areas which are every bit as deprived as some parts of the north and midlands. Very much a place of two cities, so to speak.

Exactly. I also live in Croydon and feel the same way.

TBH after last night with the against rascim protesters outnumbered them and all the ones who are being charged I think most won't bother. The one's in Blackpool last night on the roundabout looked pathetic.Don't know about anywhere else but it's wet and windy here and not very warm. So if it's like that anywhere else most should stay away.🥰

Totally agree. I grew up in an ethnically diverse and deprived area. I remember walking to school past the local Asian barber shop and being sexually harassed by the men. My mum went to speak with them and they just laughed at her. The police were called eventually.

All these middle class folk who live in leafy suburbs welcoming immigrants, etc. They don’t have to deal with the real life consequences.

Exactly! The same goes for 'posh' Sussex towns Eastbourne and Hastings. Higher cost of living yet lower wages, underemployment is rife, as is homelessness. Sussex has it's share of oversaturated housing and job markets.

They are from Brighton. They're part of Antifa Brgton and TLF Brght*n (trying to avoid this thread being googled by them). Their social media pages contain some very unpleasant posts about women who dare try to speak out about single-sex spaces, or anyone else they disagree with. In my opinion, they are motivated by the same things the far-right are motivated by - primarily hatred and anger.

You may not be aware, but I think it was 200 child refugees went missing from Brighton and Hove mostly girls, believed trafficked. We have our share of asylum seekers, illegal migrants etc

Peaceful anti racism supporters outnumbered the far right outside an Asylum Centre in Liverpool last night as well and there was no trouble even though hundreds gathered.

Ah - a good dose of "others are not like me so they are wrong and evil " be it race, class, sex , it's all pretty naff

I don't disagree with your OP, but just want to add that Brighton is a particularly lovely place to live compared to most of the shit, left behind cities in the North.

Imagine growing up in a place with easy access to London, beach, happy holiday people, middle-class artists, pastel painted houses.

Then imagine growing up in somewhere constantly ridiculed for being shit, full of 'gammon', 'no brain cells', no jobs, transport, nice buildings and nothing but late night chemists and bookies and all the amazing free cultural sites of London completely out of reach.

I'm not sure what we expected to happen with all the forgotten Northern cities to be honest. But building more NHS centres won't solve it and not will reminding them how dumb they are

I live in Brighton actually, and I work for a charity as well. I do "have a fucking clue" what it is like.

It's one of the wealthiest cities in the UK. It does have deprivation and a lot of issues with homelessness and social inclusion. That doesn't change the fact that overall, it's one of the best places to live in the country, and one of the most affluent.

Just to put it out there, there are some very different areas of Brighton and it is certainly not ubiquitously wealthy and middle class.

sorry! i replied before seeing the later posts who made this distinction. apologies for clogging up the thread with repetition

@Littlepinkstarsbyradish I think anyone who feels Brighton has the same kinds of problems as some of the places in the UK that are at the centre of these issues, needs to go and live in a small town in the North for a while and see how they feel.

I've done both and I can say there is no comparison, despite the fact that Brighton has some clear issues, it is not the same.

Yes.

I've lived in Brighton for 17 years but am from the North East. My father was from an affluent family and my mother from a poor family, so I saw both sides.

Of course Brighton has areas of deprivation, like anywhere else. But it really isn't the same.

That doesn't really surprise me. I don't see Brighton as a leafy suburb, more the Blackpool of the south.

So probably worth looking at who in Brighton has the wealth? I bet it is skewed. My guess, and yes I have no facts, is that gay male couples are probably over-represented ( compared to general population) in the wealthy categories.

You obviously don’t know Brighton as it isn’t really known for ‘leafy suburbs’ the residential area closer to town have pockets of wealth but it is really socially mixed.

Another one who doesn’t have a clue about Brighton! Yes, just like Blackpool reflected in the prices of private housing 🙄

Blackpool has leafy suburbs too...
I dare say Brighton is overall less deprived but I'm sure that, like many seaside towns, it's got more than half a dozen 'left behind' white men.

Other towns had a similar response of counter protesters outnumbering 'protesters' to Brighton so nitpicking its demographic details is a bit besides the point.

Which is that the counter protesters did so peacefully, they didn't need to throw or set fire to anything. Even in 'left behind' areas, people are capable of using words, not bricks - if there was a coherent protest the 'protesters' would have brought banners not beer.

Which is that the counter protesters did so peacefully, they didn't need to throw or set fire to anything. Even in 'left behind' areas, people are capable of using words, not bricks - if there was a coherent protest the 'protesters' would have brought banners not beer.

Yep, as seen by the suspended labour councillor that was arrested, he used his words well.

Same in Sheffield. There have been a couple of attempts at riots and both times the rioters were vastly outnumbered by peaceful protesters.

Sheffield has a lot of overseas students, so I wonder if this might have influenced the good people of Sheffield.

Obviously people are using words for ill purposes too - Yaxley-Lennon, musk, Cheshire woman etc...the people rousing the rabble are more culpable than the people they con into rioting.
But again, not the point. Genuine protest doesn't require violence and property damage.

It's also full of antisocial behaviour, hard drugs, homelessness, individuals with severe mental health / alcohol/ substance abuse issues, violence & depravation. See also large estates & child poverty, some children there have never even seen the sea. Ex Brighton resident