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Husband said I was too mentally unstable to give birth without an epidural

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csectiondepression · 07/08/2024 11:18

As the title says really, husband said I was too mentally unstable to give birth without epidural. Unfortunately I'm immune to local aneasethia and the hospital had no alternative pain meds (I ended up at an alternate hospital that didn't even have epidurals anyway).

When I did induction - second day I was on the drip for several hours while I had him just sitting there watching me and in the end I just gave up and had a c-section anyway.

I kept thinking he was just sitting there watching me fail and I had no other support of any kind (no friends or family near).

We're months down the line now and I'm just full of bitterness. I regret having the c-section so much as I could have coped the pain with just a little support.

Am I being unreasonable to feel this way nearly 3 months on? I wonder why he married me and got me pregnant with such an opinion.

OP posts:
JWhipple · 07/08/2024 13:14

PickAChew · 07/08/2024 13:08

This is such a common time for abuse to start. Of course birth is painful and even if you're tough and calm enough to get through a short labour, after a few days almost everyone would be ground down.

I bet he's a right whiney mess when he's in pain. Arseholes like this always are.

We should do research on how arseholes like this respond to pain. The nation needs it.

Atethehalloweenchocs · 07/08/2024 13:15

To be honest, I think a lot of men secretly think women are ridiculous or weak - it is well established that womens pain is treated differently to mens reports of pain. Its internalized misogyny.

BeeHappy12 · 07/08/2024 13:16

I speak from experience both as someone who has had an induction and someone who has looked after women induced and it's very difficult to get through an induced labour without an epidural. It's completely different to a spontaneous labour, a lot more intense and painful. You have absolutely nothing to feel bad about from a birthing perspective, a c section is a completely valid form of childbirth and nothing to be ashamed of. In terms of your husband, I'm sorry he treated you like that. Is this a pattern of behaviour? If so, is it a pattern you want yourself and child around?

ManyATrueWord · 07/08/2024 13:18

Babe, get some help from someone like women's aid. It's not you. It's him. Just what he said show he is the problem.

Imisscoffee2021 · 07/08/2024 13:20

The only thing you should regret is being with such an inhuman man. I had an emergency section and my husband was so supportive. He's still a bit traumatised seeing me go through what I did, he tells me how strong I was and how he wishes women didn't have to bear the brunt. He did all the housework while I recovered, waiting on me hand and foot essentially. I'm so sad for you, and even sadder that this isn't the first post about lack of support after birth I've read and felt compelled to comment on.

I don't know what to say other than are you sure you want to be with him long term, it sounds like he's not lifting you up or supporting you, what does he add to your life?

MoonGeek · 07/08/2024 13:20

You don't have to have your husband there. I didn't for my second because he was also useless during my first labour. My second was such a different experience and the midwives were incredibly supportive. We are now divorced because it turns out he was useless at most things related to his children.

Allthehorsesintheworld · 07/08/2024 13:21

No uterus, no opinion. ( pinched from Friends)

Seriously, you’ve grown, nurtured and birthed a baby…….and he sat and watched?

Please talk to someone irl, a trusted friend or family member, your health visitor, your GP. He’s the one in the wrong here and his behaviour is seriously abnormal.

Dressinggowntime · 07/08/2024 13:24

I had a drip induction with no pain relief or epidural and I was honestly doolally with the pain of it. I thought I was going to die. It was my second as well. My first wasn’t an induction. With my second on the drip I begged them for a c section but was too far along. Don’t feel a failure. Your husband’s sounds an idiot. Induction births on the drip are a totally different beast to normal natural births ime.

SurpriseOzzy · 07/08/2024 13:34

Might you be alone when the midwife visits OP? Has he any way of hearing what goes on in your home?

BlueFlint · 07/08/2024 13:36

You are amazing. You carried and birthed a beautiful baby without any support. I was also induced and the second they told me I'd be on the drip I demanded an epidural before they even started. You are so strong and you didn't give up by having a section - you and your medical team made the best decision for yourself and your baby.

Obviously, your husband was/is completely unreasonable. You know this, and what you decide to do is up to you.

GhoulWithADragonTattoo · 07/08/2024 13:36

What time did he say this? He sounds unkind.

SummerSnowstorm · 07/08/2024 13:37

He sounds nasty and controlling, I'm guessing he has that trait of putting other people down to boost his ego?
But on the birth side of things, they won't usually give a c section just because it's painful, they would've at least tried diamorphine etc first. Are you sure it wasn't actually that they agreed to it because you weren't progressing after so long?

I didn't even manage to get them to give me more than gas and air when I wasn't handling the pain, I definitely can't imagine them doing a c section purely for pain reasons.

I would try to focus on that as it sounds likely that you would have had a c section regardless.

DancefloorAcrobatics · 07/08/2024 13:42

csectiondepression · 07/08/2024 11:29

@FlorenceinSummer

No I chose it because I was feeling depressed moving around in pain while I had him sitting there watching me. I felt he was watching me like an animal in a zoo

Firstly, no, you were not depressed. You were in labour, that's very painful!
Second, you have made the right decision for yourself and baby by having a c- section
Third, if he makes you feel like an animal in a zoo, then please do not stay in this relationship.

You are stronger without him.

Watching your partner being in pain and not offering support or comfort is beyond cruel. So leave asap.

babyproblems · 07/08/2024 13:51

Erm I take my hat off to you for having an induction and just HAVING A BABY. That’s mega. The way the baby came out of your body is irrelevant- let go of your baggage on this. YOU DID IT. End of. Well done & congratulations.

Secondly - you are in the absolute thick of raging hormones right about now. Be kinder to yourself. Forget your useless partners’ lack of support at the birth. You did it anyway - a complete success despite no support! Everyone is alive and well- that’s Victory in life and done by you.
Tell your partner you felt let down and you’re drawing a line under it from now- then tell him what you need from him. Time, a walk a day, a full nights sleep- whatever it is, be very matter of fact about it. Then hold him to that. There will be many other times through your journey as parents that you disagree or don’t feel in sync. It doesn’t matter- decide what your red lines are and focus only on the basics, some things you have to let go.

Enjoy your beautiful baby and the fact you did it! Xx

ps) I say all this assuming your relationship is generally good - if he is verbally undermining you or abusive in any way please tell somebody in real life. x

AdviceNeeded2024 · 07/08/2024 13:56

Wow, he sounds horrible OP. You are giving birth to his child, which you’ve carried for 9 months and this is how he treats you?!

Is this your first child? How has he been since the birth does he do his fair share?

Do not think anything wrong about having a c-section, your carried and delivered a baby safely. You’re doing great.

Oh… Tell him to shit a melon with no pain relief then call him mentally unstable while you watch.

monopolykimmage · 07/08/2024 13:58

I had an induction and birth without epidural because delivery happened too fast. It was hell. I knew it would be painful and asked for the epidural to go in first before the hormones, but that wasn't 'policy'.

It was so painful that I hallucinated, and decided immediately that I would never have another. If I could have had a CS, I would have.

DP was very supportive, though. I'm so sorry your husband is so ignorant.

Congratulations on delivering a healthy baby after induction - people have no idea how intense and painful it is. Enjoy the small baby period - it flies!

Flumpie59 · 07/08/2024 14:03

I chose never to have kids so I don't know/understand about C-sections etc. but your hubby ... dump him as fast as you can.

It's your body that was pregnant and birthing, not his, so he has absolutely no right at all to tell you how to do it!

SettingsOptions · 07/08/2024 14:12

Does anyone else read posts on here and feel sorry for all the people married to people who clearly despise them? I didn’t realise it was so common

TeaGinandFags · 07/08/2024 14:14

He sounds a right prince!

He's doing this because he enjoys hurting you. The psychological term is cunt.

Tell your HV what you're going through and speak with Women's Aid, they're mustard in these situations. Consider doing the Freedom Program.

As for failing: you were a heroine and put up with more pain than any of us. A CS is a medical emergency and not a failure. Don't let anyone say otherwise!

Take care of yourself and your little one. (And consider a new patio.)💐

AdviceNeeded2024 · 07/08/2024 14:16

SettingsOptions · 07/08/2024 14:12

Does anyone else read posts on here and feel sorry for all the people married to people who clearly despise them? I didn’t realise it was so common

Yes I genuinely do, I really feel for some posters on here who are treated so badly. it makes me despair as a newly single person too.

AdviceNeeded2024 · 07/08/2024 14:17

@TeaGinandFagsHe's doing this because he enjoys hurting you. The psychological term is cunt.”

I love this analogy!!

AnnaMagnani · 07/08/2024 14:18

I did Obstetrics years and years ago and the male Obstetrician would insist if you had induction, you had an epidural as otherwise it was too painful.

Years of Mumsnetting I can see a few women get lucky and are OK without but basically induction contractions are usually awful and he had a point.

BlackShuck3 · 07/08/2024 14:18

AdviceNeeded2024 · 07/08/2024 14:16

Yes I genuinely do, I really feel for some posters on here who are treated so badly. it makes me despair as a newly single person too.

"familiarity breeds contempt"
Never live with anyone, that's my solution now!
(I appreciate that is far from ideal when you are parents of young children)

monopolykimmage · 07/08/2024 14:20

AnnaMagnani · 07/08/2024 14:18

I did Obstetrics years and years ago and the male Obstetrician would insist if you had induction, you had an epidural as otherwise it was too painful.

Years of Mumsnetting I can see a few women get lucky and are OK without but basically induction contractions are usually awful and he had a point.

Wonderful man. I'm still bitter about the hospital policy - which would have hurt every woman who had a fast induced labour.

I felt so stupid, because I said it was likely I would deliver fast! The midwife cut me off and kept on typing her notes.

FictionalCharacter · 07/08/2024 14:21

csectiondepression · 07/08/2024 11:29

@FlorenceinSummer

No I chose it because I was feeling depressed moving around in pain while I had him sitting there watching me. I felt he was watching me like an animal in a zoo

There's something very wrong with him if he just watched, and didn't feel the need to help or comfort you in any way. It's like he was finding your pain fascinating instead of upsetting.
As a PP said, this looks like the beginning of emotional abuse by him. Please get some support. Your health visitor should be able to help.