Wondering how we can all stand behind & support minorities in this climate.

[Agn]

It is horrendous that there is a climate of fear and that all this far right terrorism is taking place.

are there ways for the general public to give support to minorities who are being targetted?

Where have “people like myself” ignored what “those people” have done? This thread isn’t about that. Again if you want a thread about that- start one or join the one that is currently running (in which I have agreed that the assault on a pub by Asian males was wrong and they should be arrested). Why co-opt a thread about the valid fears of ethnic minorities after they were specifically targeted in far right riots? Why make it all about you, and your “poor little me Kier Starmer has called out far right thuggery and for some reason, even though I don’t support that behaviour either, I feel offended”? Go make your own thread about that, it’s really poor taste to make a thread about supporting minorities into something all about you, a presumably white person given the groups you are identifying with.

I was quite frightened of the pro Palestine demos. Still am.

Calling for intifada, and all sorts of other disgraceful calls for violence.

Support for those pro Hamas demos though.

Nobody stood in solidarity with Jews who might feel intimidated by this in their own home city. In fact there is support for it

@Milkyway1213

The fucking irony that you don't want to be grouped with a bunch of right wing extremists yet align your thinking with people who believe that all immigrants are a problem is incredible.

Your phrasing of "certain people" is racist. What do you mean by that? Anyone who makes assumptions about someone else based on a shared characteristic is wrong. By your standard, all British white men are violent rioters. It's just not the case.

I think we start by ensuring the language used is correct.

The previous government used the term "illegal migrants" for anyone entering the UK via a boat claiming asylum. They are asylum seekers. They remain so until their claim is processed and either they are given asylum or not.

If they aren't they are returned.

They only become an illegal Immigrant if they are refused stay and avoid return. Or someone outstays their visa.

They are housed in hotels in large numbers because the government decided to stop processing claims and do that. They decided to hold on to all the asylum seekers whilst fighting to send 200 to Rwanda in return for 200 Rwandans. It was always a reciprocal deal.

And under that deal we would have had more British children born to Rwandan parents in the UK as was the Southport stabber.

There is large immigration done via routes such as homes for Ukraine and from Hong Kong. The government allows these people to come and some do have questions over the numbers. But these are far higher by 100's of thousands than those crossing in boats to claim asylum.

You then have the likes of Braverman who use language such as "invasion". She's gone quiet. Is it because she realises the hate she's stoked means that the other day she would have been stopped in her car and deemed not British enough to avoid a beating? Purely because these thugs would have looked at her, deemed her non British (she is) and felt she wasn't to be here. Assumed she was "an illegal". Her parents were immigrants.

It's fucking ridiculous. We know successive governments have tried (and admittedly failed) to stop people feeling they are safer risking their lives crossing the channel than staying in their homes.

But we also leave them no choice. We have NO safe route for these people.

This isn't about keeping our children safe. This isn't about immigration and people's concerns over it.

This is solely and purely about violent thugs deciding anyone who doesn't look British enough to them not being welcome.

And sadly I have NO idea how to stop people fearing that. Because the truth is many British people don't look British (in the eyes of the rioting thugs).

But I'm fucking embarrassed to be British right now - that much I do know.

we personally don't have to do anything. We are not doing anything wrong to anyone, we are at home, sitting on bums onto sofas. The organisations who work with terrorists have to up their game , the government local authorities who work with Muslims have to up their game, the border control has to up their game, Rwanda has to give us back our money so we fund properly the extradition of all these men. THAT IS MY PENNY

I work with all sorts of nationalities. There has never been any issue of sharing food, religious talk, cultural talk, I even discussed my religion with one compared to theirs. It was a beautiful talk

Locally, ask people if they are ok? Being friendly and kind is natural of course, but you can also make the effort to make people aware that you do not condone or share the attitudes of biogots and rioters.

On a bigger scale, support anti-racist charities and causes, report misinformation you see online, speak to your MP and local council about anti-racism efforts in your community. Google causes to support, either financially or for free with word of mouth, sharing content online, such as Hope Not Hate, Choose Love, Amnesty International, Refugee Action, Show Racism the Red Card, Stop Hate UK.

Throughout history people look for scape goats when things in economy isn't going well. Cost living is hitting poorest hard, they want to blame someone so easiest targets are immigration illegal or not usually with the same rhetoric of stealing house and jobs - basically state resources. Whether people want to deny it or not there is a strong undercurrent especially in working class areas around illegal immigration which is now flowing into all immigration

Sadly nothing new. It makes me sad. I don't know the answer or how to stop it except trying to teach my kids to have open kinds and hearts

I don’t want people to think we are all like this. I cannot go out to counter protests but I sure as hell do not want people to think the majority of the public are like this. There will be people frightened and my local town has riots.

Why can't you go to counter protests?

Could be all manner of reasons...fear? Disability? Lack of childcare?

I would encourage people to join the peaceful counter protests if they are able. I found it immensely reassuring to see that the antiracists far outnumbered the racists in my community.

I find it frightening going on protests alone or with my child, yet alone protests countering rioters. I'm very grateful for people who do it.

Integration is your answer OP
Enough with the biased multiculturalism

I'm wonder the same OP. Don't let right wingers distract. They'll try.

OP I was thinking this just yesterday. I think just being warm and courteous to everyone you meet is the way forward. Being non-white in this country at the moment must be scary and awful.

This is not a thread about the opinions of Milkyway1213 .

@Milkyway1213 what I find absolutely disgusting is that because of your 'protests', we are not talking about the beautiful children murdered last week. They are almost forgotten while all focus is on your spectacle and that is what is disgusting, especially so soon after the police had seemingly woken up to the fact of VAWG.

@Agn what most of is want is just to be left alone to live in peace and be given the opportunity to work and take care of our families, be kind and receive kindness from our neighbours and just carry on.

I was at a reggae festival this weekend and the crowd made my heart smile - people of all colours, nationality and creed - together enjoying themselves, just living in love and unity. We require nothing more.

brilliant post.

I think we need to come out en masse in solidarity with our neighbours and stop these racists from smashing up places of worship and trying to burn refugees to death.

Apparently a lot of them are planning to attack different targets this Weds evening (tomorrow). Immigration centres, visa offices etc.

If the police are overwhelmed, then what? It's on us. Like in Liverpool last Friday night. The fash were outnumbered and went home.

We must do what we can to protect our communities and not give ground to the racists.

@Agn , it’s not terrorism. 🙄
I’m not condoning violence by the way, quite the reverse I hope ALL violence will be dealt with going forward robustly.

Why do you feel you are being given this label? The OP specifically referred to far right terrorism. Have you been out throwing stones at police and trying to set fire to buildings with people in them? If not, you haven't been labelled by her.

How do you know that your views represent those of "the people"? Do you actually object to, for instance, legal immigrants following their own religion and having places of worship to do so? Why?

Why won't the Government address the real concerns of the people? Why are certain groups allowed to wield knives and machetes in public without intervention by the Police?

Which groups, and when, @Milkyway1213? You do know the person accused of the Southport knife attack is not an immigrant, don't you?

Yes, and? That is ONE person, not a vast majority of people at the protest, and it's a virtual certainty that they won't be charged.

When has this happened? Were the police called?