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To think that men shouldn’t be in female changing rooms?

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Picoloangel · 03/08/2024 17:49

I have a DD who is almost 13. Twice now in H and M we have been in the changing rooms in a branch in London and men have been in the changing rooms waiting for their girlfriends to try on clothes. I don’t mean outside I mean actually in the changing room sitting on a bench.

I am not sure when this became a thing but it makes me really uncomfortable to think that my young DD is in there in a state of undress with men sitting outside. Today she was trying on a swimsuit - the cubicle wasn’t big enough for both of us so she would have had to walk out to show me in full view of an adult male. She didn’t as she didn’t like it but that’s not the point. I know she’ll be in a swimsuit on holiday but this felt different.

The cubicles have these half doors so in theory someone could look over the door. Am I being a pearl clutcher or is this weird? It worries me now that she is starting to go shopping on her own.

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Lifeasweknowitisrandom · 24/09/2024 18:39

herecomesthesunyes · 24/09/2024 18:33

@Lifeasweknowitisrandom I’m not engaging with you any more as you are determined not to listen to my concerns. So I’m not wasting any more precious time. Too much transmitting, not enough receiving.

No bother. You're not exactly listening to me either but there you go.

herecomesthesunyes · 24/09/2024 18:40

And just general pervy behaviour of phone cameras etc… no thanks. Men can wait outside. Cool/fangirls don’t speak for us all.

herecomesthesunyes · 24/09/2024 18:45

My point is that it doesn’t bother you but it does bother lots of women. That doesn’t give you the right to dismiss our feelings and our wants and needs for a single sex space. I’ve been sexually assaulted and don’t like men around when I’m getting undressed. Why should I not go shopping just because a guy won’t wait outside. Loads of women are like me and that’s not even allowing for Muslim women. Please be decent and listen to others’ concerns. It’s quite upsetting to have them waved away so airily.

ginasevern · 24/09/2024 18:48

I don't see why they can't wait outside. They are called female changing rooms for a reason - the clue is in the name. It's no bloody hardship for for a bloke to wait outside for his girlfriend surely. And yes, in this day and age of mobile recording devices I don't think it's within the realms of utter fantasy that a man might make use of the situation. They're not exactly unknown for sexual exploits are they for christ sake.

DeepBlueSeas · 24/09/2024 18:52

“They are waiting for their girlfriends”
That might be the case, but why can’t they wait outside of it.
It doesn’t matter if you’re in a cubicle, sometimes you might want to step outside to show your friend, if you can see guys sat down waiting in the vicinity, it’s going to be uncomfortable for some.

It’s a woman’s changing room, not a waiting room.

Supersoakers · 24/09/2024 18:54

The expression on men’s faces makes me die a little seeing them trail round after their partners looking desperately bored. I don’t understand why anyone would do it at all, let alone sit in a changing room.

Lifeasweknowitisrandom · 24/09/2024 18:54

herecomesthesunyes · 24/09/2024 18:45

My point is that it doesn’t bother you but it does bother lots of women. That doesn’t give you the right to dismiss our feelings and our wants and needs for a single sex space. I’ve been sexually assaulted and don’t like men around when I’m getting undressed. Why should I not go shopping just because a guy won’t wait outside. Loads of women are like me and that’s not even allowing for Muslim women. Please be decent and listen to others’ concerns. It’s quite upsetting to have them waved away so airily.

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Your opinion isn't any more important than mine though is it. I'm sorry you've been through that but the shop can make their decisions and you can choose to use them or not. Posting on here won't change anything. Write to the shop head office if you're bothered by it.

Lifeasweknowitisrandom · 24/09/2024 18:55

ginasevern · 24/09/2024 18:48

I don't see why they can't wait outside. They are called female changing rooms for a reason - the clue is in the name. It's no bloody hardship for for a bloke to wait outside for his girlfriend surely. And yes, in this day and age of mobile recording devices I don't think it's within the realms of utter fantasy that a man might make use of the situation. They're not exactly unknown for sexual exploits are they for christ sake.

Most are just called changing rooms not women's changing rooms

Iggi999 · 25/09/2024 07:02

Lifeasweknowitisrandom · 24/09/2024 18:55

Most are just called changing rooms not women's changing rooms

Try wandering into the one that's next to all the men's clothes and someone will quickly tell you it's the men's changing rooms.

Picoloangel · 25/09/2024 17:39

@herecomesthesunyes @Iggi999 @ginasevern

I am reading your comments with interest. Thank you for making them.

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