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I'm not sure I even like DH anymore, or his parenting style

97 replies

Dumbley · 03/08/2024 16:04

I really need some help navigating these feelings 😢 it isn't just his parenting style, there's a whole bunch of stuff, but I'll try and not go on forever...

I love DH and I accept him for all his flaws, but I'm worried our two sons will turn out like him. The older I get and the more demanding our two sons become (5 and 9months), I find myself with less patience for him and his "ways".

Firstly, it was my birthday recently. I'm not precious about birthdays, I don't expect expensive gifts, but I feel like I want my DH to make a real effort and model that for DS. Now to be fair we were away for my birthday, and DH took DS with him around some shops to find me a nice necklace. I love the gift, it's beautiful, but AIBU to just want a bit more? I don't mean in terms of gifts. I'd rather have had no gift, but a handmade card and a breakfast made for me, with just a bit of acknowledgement and appreciation on the day, do you know what I mean? I love fresh flowers for example, but DH never gets them for me because he doesn't like flowers and finds them "a pain". They both said happy birthday and gave me the present, and DS liked to check-in that I liked it which was sweet....but, I then spent the whole day driving everybody around (only driver in this family), and it was like after about 10am everyone forgot it was my birthday.

I also had to get up at least 3 times in the night to feed and comfort the 9 months old, despite having a very very very long drive ahead of me the next day (birthday day). DH did not offer once to get up and do the night. I'm so exhausted, and it's really just suddenly hitting me how selfish that is. Not just because it's my birthday, or the fact I had to drive 6 hours, but that we're a partnership where only one of us is pulling their weight.

He often acts like the fun uncle rather than the responsible father. It's things like him and DS5 charging in the room with guns to shoot me...that sounds really fun, except I'm holding a baby and a cup of tea and it's actually quite dangerous. So I have to be the one to say no and ruin the fun. That's just one example. There are so many. DS5 is also of that age where he thinks boys are great and girls suck and are boring. I think that's normal, but should also be challenged so it doesn't remain normal! Am I wrong in thinking that? DH laughs along and agrees with him, which winds me up because it's reinforcing the behaviour.

Lastly, the other day (my birthday in fact) we were all sitting down having lunch and DH spent so much of that time on his phone. Even when we're trying to speak to him, he's still half browsing his phone. He doesn't see it though. I finally snapped and said "can you please put your phone away, it's really upsetting me" (watching DS try and converse with him), and he flipped out at me for saying it was "upsetting me", because that was apparently a massive overreaction and I was being "really silly" as he's barely on his phone. My feelings weren't remotely validated and I just felt so much anger towards him.

DH has zero emotional intelligence and I just don't want our kids to end up selfish and disrespectful 😢 DH is also very dismissive of people, and can sometimes vocalise that. I had such a massive go at him for referring to someone as an "it" once, it's just not okay and it isn't okay to expose DS to that sort of behaviour.

Sorry for the length and thank you if you made it through to the end...I really needed to write all that down!

OP posts:
Surprisedmystified · 03/08/2024 16:10

It reads as though you have 3 sons OP, not 2.
No wonder you are exhausted.

Dumbley · 03/08/2024 16:23

@Surprisedmystified that's exactly how it feels! A big part of me thinks life would be easier if I left, because I wouldn't have to worry quite so much about what our children are exposed to...but then I'm also worried that leaving DH and breaking up the family will cause more damage. He is a good father in other ways, but a pretty shite husband at times

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cheddercherry · 03/08/2024 16:26

Oh god he’s one of those “bro Disney dads” isn’t he. Yeah I’d find that really hard to reconcile in a partner. I agree you want him to model respect towards women and girls and it doesn’t sound like he values you as a mother or partner. Could you try therapy? Or will he just minimise your concerns?

Dishwashersaurous · 03/08/2024 16:30

Has he changed?

Did he make an effort before children?

Is there a reason he doesn't drive?

It's completely normal for mum to get up with very small baby in the night. But that's a very long drive to have planned with such a young baby

Cherrysoup · 03/08/2024 16:36

Dishwashersaurous · 03/08/2024 16:30

Has he changed?

Did he make an effort before children?

Is there a reason he doesn't drive?

It's completely normal for mum to get up with very small baby in the night. But that's a very long drive to have planned with such a young baby

But surely if the baby isn’t breastfed, the other parent could easily get up instead if she has to do all the driving the next day? Why didn’t he offer? And yes, why is he not a driver?

Dumbley · 03/08/2024 17:30

Dishwashersaurous · 03/08/2024 16:30

Has he changed?

Did he make an effort before children?

Is there a reason he doesn't drive?

It's completely normal for mum to get up with very small baby in the night. But that's a very long drive to have planned with such a young baby

The baby was previously breastfed but isn't now. I fully appreciate he'd struggle to settle the baby in the night, he just doesn't have the same ability and the baby doesn't get the same comfort from it, but even so...the offer would have been nice.

It was a long drive with regular stops, but it was hard going for me and a very very long day.

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Dumbley · 03/08/2024 17:33

cheddercherry · 03/08/2024 16:26

Oh god he’s one of those “bro Disney dads” isn’t he. Yeah I’d find that really hard to reconcile in a partner. I agree you want him to model respect towards women and girls and it doesn’t sound like he values you as a mother or partner. Could you try therapy? Or will he just minimise your concerns?

Thanks for this. I've suggested therapy in the past but he has always been very dismissed of it.

Another issue I find is that he's very negative as a person. He hates an awful lot and feels the need to vocalise that, whereas I'm generally quite positive. He hates flowers, the beach, dogs, our cat...so now DS5 also hates these things. He often comes into the room and says "I hate our cat, he's stupid." I can't imagine he's decided this on his own. Or maybe he has...he is basically a miniature version of his dad

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Leanmeansmitingmachine · 03/08/2024 17:35

Dumbley · 03/08/2024 17:33

Thanks for this. I've suggested therapy in the past but he has always been very dismissed of it.

Another issue I find is that he's very negative as a person. He hates an awful lot and feels the need to vocalise that, whereas I'm generally quite positive. He hates flowers, the beach, dogs, our cat...so now DS5 also hates these things. He often comes into the room and says "I hate our cat, he's stupid." I can't imagine he's decided this on his own. Or maybe he has...he is basically a miniature version of his dad

This is depressing as fuck. Your husband is a prick.

Dishwashersaurous · 03/08/2024 17:36

Has he changed? You say he hates everything, was he like this before children?

NewDogOwner · 03/08/2024 17:38

Most of your points are fair but I have never known a male adult to make handmade cards for their family.

PuppiesProzacProsecco · 03/08/2024 17:38

You're not being unreasonable about most of this OP - your DH sounds like a nightmare. But the bit about your birthday gift is unreasonable of you. If you'd prefer a handmade card and breakfast in bed, tell him that. He's done something he thought you'd like and isn't a mind reader. I'd be quite cross with my DH if he "only" gave me breakfast in bed and a card made by the kids. Unless we were in financial difficulties or something obviously

saveforthat · 03/08/2024 17:39

He sounds like a prick but why wait until he "offers"? Why not just say " I'm knackered and I have a long drive tomorrow, it's your turn"

LoneHydrangea · 03/08/2024 17:39

He sounds awful. You’re right to be concerned about exposing your kids to this and it being their normal.

NeedSomeAnswersPlease · 03/08/2024 17:41

PuppiesProzacProsecco · 03/08/2024 17:38

You're not being unreasonable about most of this OP - your DH sounds like a nightmare. But the bit about your birthday gift is unreasonable of you. If you'd prefer a handmade card and breakfast in bed, tell him that. He's done something he thought you'd like and isn't a mind reader. I'd be quite cross with my DH if he "only" gave me breakfast in bed and a card made by the kids. Unless we were in financial difficulties or something obviously

Combined with everything else it's not unreasonable- OP's husband completely neglects her and her needs

pikkumyy77 · 03/08/2024 17:41

NewDogOwner · 03/08/2024 17:38

Most of your points are fair but I have never known a male adult to make handmade cards for their family.

Oh? My DH makes cards—since he also writes poems and songs for me and our two daughters. He’s very gifted and quite artistic. I know plenty of men who would put themselves out to hand make something for their family members.

nutbrownhare15 · 03/08/2024 17:46

I'd be focusing on asking for respect and being respectful with both your husband and son. E.g. it's not ok to be disrespectful about the cat as it's part of the family. If he won't change it's probably time to LTB.

Whalewatching · 03/08/2024 17:49

For a start he should be learning to drive (if that’s why he doesn’t drive). As the kids get bigger and start doing more, to have that always falling to you will be a nightmare.

Time for a serious talk. Calm and not whilst you’re rowing. Explain to him the impact of being the only adult in the room. His job is not to just have fun with his kids, but to also show them how to become responsible, caring adults. By leaving that bit all to you, he is negating his duties and not being a good dad

Persiancouscous · 03/08/2024 17:49

I cant understand what he's done wrong. He was thoughtful enough to get you a present with your son.

The gun thing really isn't a worry, I wouldn't be holding a baby and a brew to be frank.

Your DH obviously plays with your son.

Honestly, sounds like you need a nap

Wantavespa · 03/08/2024 17:52

I read this like most of it is you pissed off about your birthday. Fair enough, but I'd speak to him and make it clear what your expectations are. You said you're not previous about birthdays. You are, that's ok, tell him.

The Disney dad is annoying but I think I'd use it to your advantage. If he runs around the house with dc5 then tell him to get out to he park and give you some peace because you've been up all night.

I think you need to be more vocal rather than inwardly seething.

BlackShuck3 · 03/08/2024 17:53

Is there a reason he doesn't drive?
I'd say because it's a cast iron way of avoiding being lumbered with anything which involves driving!

TomatoSandwiches · 03/08/2024 17:53

He's not really an adult is he.

BlackShuck3 · 03/08/2024 17:56

I'd use it to your advantage
agree with @Wantavespa, all the things that piss you off, dont complain, work it to your advantage. That's what men tend to do ime, you just need to do it back to them and do it better.

jannier · 03/08/2024 17:57

Dumbley · 03/08/2024 17:30

The baby was previously breastfed but isn't now. I fully appreciate he'd struggle to settle the baby in the night, he just doesn't have the same ability and the baby doesn't get the same comfort from it, but even so...the offer would have been nice.

It was a long drive with regular stops, but it was hard going for me and a very very long day.

Do you say to him baby settled better for me or do you let him try? He won't ever do it if he doesn't try just say as I've driven/driving all day you can do the nights then leave him to it. Are you still BF at all if not get him doing the feeds cooking dinner etc. He won't ask he's got away with it too long so you need to speak up.

jannier · 03/08/2024 17:58

He's got you a gift and a card I don't think that's unacceptable

Newgirls · 03/08/2024 17:59

I wonder what a psychologist would make of this. It’s like he’s become a kid again and you’re the mum. Like he’s regressed. It might improve as the kids get older but might be too late. You’re going to have to have some interesting chats about raising boys and how you want things to be different.

ps having to do a long drive on your birthday was never going to be fun