To say the Olympics hates women

[ArabellaScott]

A child rapist performing for the Netherlands.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/olympics/article-13674293/Convicted-child-rapist-Steven-van-Velde-Netherlands-booed-volleyball-olympics.html

Males punching women in the face as sport.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/articles/cnd0drjr4jdo

Offensive caricatures of women everywhere.

https://glaad.org/french-drag-artists-made-history-as-first-in-drag-to-carry-the-olympic-torch/

The IBA could easily tell everyone what tests they did that the 2 boxers failed. They have consistently refused stating privacy concerns. These privacy concerns extend to the 2 boxers who haven't even been informed of the specifics of these "gender tests". So it's a bit difficult to appeal a ban when you don't even know exactly why you've been banned beyond a vague description.
Interestingly, their president isn't bound by such concerns, seemingly as he's free to tell all to Russian media outlets. Or just blatantly lie knowing he won't be contradicted. Depends on how cynical you are about a boxer who has been fine to compete for 6/7 years suddenly failing a "gender test" after beating the only Russian boxer in a competition run by a mostly Russian organisation and sponsored by a massive Russian company (Gazprom).
The IOC have testing rules which cover both chromosome and hormone levels. Khelif passed the IOC tests.
Oh, the IBA has also just given Carini a lump sum out of the kindness of their hearts because they felt sorry for her. Such lovely people.
And all this information can be found fairly easily online.

Misogyny runs rife everywhere... every facet of life unfortunately.

I've never really understood the drag artist thing.

I have gay male friends and none of them look like this and one recently was very disappointed that the institution he works for had decided to have an LGBTQ social evening and had promptly hired 6 drag queens... He works in the Financial sector, so not even in fashion or musical theatre or cosmetics, etc.

If anyone could explain to me (I'm 57, soon to be 58).

Point is the boxer has different sex chromosomes to women so can have more testosterone and in their case are as strong as man physiologically

Meaning it's very unfair on the other women boxers with the usual female sex chromosomes being XX and men XY

Khelif allegedly has XXY and has chosen to identify as female since a child

Depends on how cynical you are about a boxer who has been fine to compete for 6/7 years suddenly failing a "gender test" after beating the only Russian boxer in a competition

This isn't true. There were other Russian boxers in the competition. Stop spreading misinformation. You'll find I'm extremely cynical about a lot of things, possibly more than you.

Also the European VP of the World Boxing Association has also come out to say Khelif is male.

'The European Vice President of the World Boxing Organization has come forward to confirm that Algerian boxer Imane Khelif is male. István Kovács says he warned the Olympic Committee about several male boxers in the women's category, but nothing was done.'

Also, what's your explanation for the Taiwanese boxer?

As posted by @ArabellaScott

And all this information can be found fairly easily online.

Yes, lots of misinformation on a whole range of topics can be found online, well done you.

Excellent post. The Olympic Committee claim they have strict rules on safety, but these clearly don’t apply to boxing.

To be clear here the sex offender's offence was against a child not a grown woman. Just wanted to make sure anyone who doesn't want to click on the links is absolutely 100% clear about who has been allowed to compete here.

Over 80% of female athletes are in favour of cheek swab sex tests. Why won't the IOC do this given it's what women competitors want? Because they're institutionally misogynistic? They want to see women harmed?

Because they don't care about women, either fairness wise or safety wise.

A 12 year old girl that he groomed online.

YANBU. It has been absolutely shocking and I am well and truly done with the Olympics.

The IBA could easily tell everyone what tests they did that the 2 boxers failed.

They specifically said they weren't testosterone tests.

They were chromosome tests. If you think they weren't, name another "gender" test you can do.

The boxer that everyone's upset about IS absolutely a man.

But, yeah. Us Munsnetters to tend to get hysterical about these minor issues. Daft mares, the lot of us 🤬

Im going to copy and paste the brilliant @Helleofabore's excellent post from one of the many other threads:

What the IBA said

www.iba.sport/news/statement-made-by-the-international-boxing-association-regarding-athletes-disqualifications-in-world-boxing-championships-2023/

This part is relevant

'On 24 March 2023, IBA disqualified athletes Lin Yu-ting and Imane Khelif from the IBA Women’s World Boxing Championships New Delhi 2023. This disqualification was a result of their failure to meet the eligibility criteria for participating in the women’s competition, as set and laid out in the IBA Regulations. This decision, made after a meticulous review, was extremely important and necessary to uphold the level of fairness and utmost integrity of the competition.'

and

'This test conclusively indicated that both athletes did not meet the required necessary eligibility criteria and were found to have competitive advantages over other female competitors.'

So, the statement is really in two parts:
Not xx
Found to have physical advantages

Athletes that don't meet the 'required eligibility criteria' for the IBA's female category is quite simple. They state in their regulations, that female competitors are those who are XX.

p9 on the IBA Technical Competition Rules,

www.iba.sport/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/20240303-IBA-Technical-Competition-Rules-v7-clean.pdf

These competitors have also been found to have competitive advantage. The only way for that to be true is if those male athletes have gone through puberty.

I also believe this statement shows that the IBA certainly also had in mind to make allowances for boxers who were male but with CAIS. Hence they have used two claims here to explain the exclusion of these male athletes. Neither of which has been directly addressed or refuted by the IOC.

The IBA also restated their position

www.iba.sport/news/iba-reaffirms-the-position-and-removal-of-boxers-from-all-events/

The did not unpublish their statements. If these statements were untrue, a legal letter would have swiftly had these statements removed from the website.

FFS Yu-Ting had was stripped of a medal! And didn't appeal at CAS where it would have surely been given back if the IBA claims were false.

Yes just wanting to make clear it wasn't a woman for those who don't know the story.

I'm appalled he was allowed to compete

The IOC have released a statement saying they don't do sex tests (despite most women competitors wanting them,) so I don't know where you're getting this misinformation. It completely contradicts the IOC position.

The boxers could just independently do chromosome tests to stop all the speculation. They haven't done so.

The UN special advisor has now called on the Olympics to reintroduce sex testing in the wake of this travesty.

Have a day off, will ya? Other posters have countered you way more eloquently.

I'm under the weather today and can't. Suffice to say your word salad is cockcustard 🤬

Total nonsense! According to an article in today's Times that is. The condition means that they will have gone through male puberty.
Which I take to mean:
Developing larger long muscles, larger heart & lungs.
Maybe different internal biology; not have womb.
The article is a plea for DNA test which definitive and a swab from inside of the cheek is simple. Far more dignified than a dope test.

As posted on the other thread, the IOC falsely claimed in their press conference that it wasn't about DSD and have now had to walk this back:

x.com/iocmedia/status/1819667573698445793?s=46&t=SPorwN-mokktL467rcZ57g

CORRECTION

In today’s IOC – Paris 2024 press briefing, IOC President Bach said:
“But I repeat, here, this is not a DSD case, this is about a woman taking part in a women’s competition, and I think I have explained this many times.”

What was intended was:
“But I repeat, here, this is not a transgender case, this is about a woman taking part in a women’s competition, and I think I have explained this many times.”

She’s not a man. She was assigned female at birth. Are women with PCOS men because of their testosterone levels?

Thank god for some actual sense here 👏

Isn't it amazing how it's only an issue in women's sport? This never arises in men's competition does it interestingly.
The Dutch rapist is absolutely disgusting and I literally cannot believe that the Netherlands would want such a person representing them as a country. Wtaf 😒

Thank god for some actual sense here

Where?

She’s not a man. She was assigned female at birth. Are women with PCOS men because of their testosterone levels?

It's not about "testosterone levels" RTFT.