to think these people in Sunderland are not "protesting".

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They are not protestors. They are not protesting. They are common or garden thugs and criminals who are causing criminal damage, setting police offices on fire and attacking police officers.

Total scumbags.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cnl0lkrxgvxo

I'm so sorry that you're being made to feel that way by the mindless racist yobs. Hugs. X

I think it’s whats amplified on social media. Over the last few weeks there have been riots in harehills, videos of Pakistani guys beating up police officers (and then the idiots standing outside the police station with BLM posters defending these twats) more grooming gang convictions, soldier stabbed by an illegal migrant (no-one seemed fussed by that) child of Rwandan’s murdering girls and a bunch of black kids trying to chop each other up in the streets, constant Palestinian protests, harassment of politicians during the campaign and a bunch of councillors yelling allahu akhbar when winning.

I think it’s contributed to a sense of disorder. If you seeing this stuff on a loop on social media and you are as criminal, stupid and trashy as some of the people above (I’m not equating these people to the murderers, more the rioters) then you see your actions as somehow a defence of your country. Which it’s not, it’s just creating a fucking mess and terrorising normal people.

I actually don’t think they are all racists, I think some are, some just like doing this shit because they are criminals and enjoy a riot and some genuinely believe they are under attack.

Honestly I think there is a failure here, I can’t put my finger on it but it feels like increasing sectarianism rather than universalism. I can’t help but think part of it is the presence of special interest groups. I saw a lot of people complaining about Starmers response to a question about the muslim community. I think what he should have said was that every citizen and resident of the UK should be able to expect to live in peace and their places of worship and person protected from harm rather than specifically responding about protecting muslims. I’m putting it badly because ofcourse I think Mosques and Muslims shouldn’t be attacked for just being there. But we need to move back to a sense of “this is what it is to be part of the wider British community, this is how we expect everyone to behave and this is how everyone can expect to be treated if they don’t”.

We’ve lost a sense of shared values, what most people want is a nice place to live with zero crime and a high trust environment. Thats most people, we need to be speaking to that.

It’s scary to think they’ve always been there, it’s only occasions like this when they all get together when we realise there is so much hate bubbled up. They crave power, and most of the time they don’t have any. Having a riot gives them the gratification of feeling like they’re in charge. And they obviously don’t have any problems with violent crime being carried out (including by and towards children) if the perpetrators are white British.

I live in a town where protests have been organised for this afternoon. Local Facebook groups are off the charts, the misinformation is quite frightening ‐ tons about 1000s of children raped and murdered by illegal immigrants, just mums scared for their children, patriotism being rebranded as racism, cries for repatriation. No sensible discussion or debate. Just anger.

I do worry about Facebook. It seems to attract weirdos who are worried about lost cats one minute and are raging racists the next.

These sort of people always come out of the woodwork at times like these. They take advantage of the mood to unleash their violence.

I live in the North Easr. Yesterday we received , as foster carers, a warning regarding 'protests' expected in all our main cities, and to be aware and vigilant if having to travel into them. I thought it was a little OTT until I saw what was occuring in my home city!! Absolutely disgusted.

PURE SCUM. Apparently they are NOT rioters but 'concerned parents'. Total bullshit.

I am so angry they are attaching their racist, cromjnal behaviour to the deaths of 3 beautiful girls and the shocking events in Stockport.

We have a very mixed community here and I can't begin to understand the levels of fear ANYONE who is not typically 'white British' myst be feeling right now, with stupid, racist mentality walking the streets!

What does " wanting their country back" actually mean? this phrase is thrown around a lot like sovereignty was during brexit but no one can actually say specifically what they want to happen. It's my country too and I want it back from drunk, coked up lunatics that are totally disrespecting the horrific attack on innocent children by making this all about them and their psychotic hatred of immigrants

These sorts of crimes never happened previously

What a load of racist rubbish. Would you like to now make a list of all the violent crimes committed by white people in the last few years? It will take you a while.

I really wish all the racists who have crawled onto this site since Monday would fuck off back to Telegram or that fruit site or wherever it is they usually lurk.

I WANT MY SITE BACK!

Nowhere have I said I support thuggery.

The country is going through hard times. Here in Britain immigrated tops our news, as does the huge rise in the cost of living. Knife crime is now a daily occurrence.

History shows when there is so much unrest and turmoil, it creates pockets of unnecessary violence.

I don't have an answer.

All I would say is be kind to one another, violence is not the answer.

Drivel. Violent people are responsible for their own actions

@PandoraSox so only those agreeing with you can comment? That’s exactly my point and how the country is in this complete and utter mess

Water cannon isn't legal anywhere in the UK other than in Northern Ireland. So it's not an option for the police.

These people are just enjoying being white nationalists and being violent. No discussion required. They aren’t discussing anything

Maybe because they're fed up that no one in government is listening to the people who pay their salaries. They're fed up being ignored.

I have not said that. I want the racists to piss off. Your post of 8:12 is a disgrace btw.

People like you who post speculation about the attacker could end up collapsing a trial.

We should be ignoring white nationalism! Why would a sane person give it their time???

I don't think any of us know what they think they are protesting about...
Vile people.

But aren’t loads of the rioters and vandals from out of town? Sounds like a travelling circus of violence to me.

It’s disgusting, it’s thoroughly depressing actually as they’re so thick and aggressive there’s no way to even reason with them. I’ve seen some horrible comments on social media, most can’t spell the word immigrant and can’t distinguish between legal immigrants, refugees and illegal immigrants. There’s loads of people justifying it as well, all spouting the same shite from social media. They are not protesting they are rioting. Protesters don’t bring beer cans and lob bricks.

It’s male violence dressed up as a ‘protest’. What’s sad is that in the last few weeks there has been some horrific cases of male violence in the news, the poor woman murdered walking her dog, the 3 women murdered with a crossbow. No protests for those cases though.

And the poor children and families in Southport. The thugs that rioted there didn’t think about whether or not any of those families lived on the street they tore up, or owned one of the cars they set fire to. Didn’t think about the fact that the police were busy trying to sort out the aftermath of the attack and they’re taking resources away from that, or the fact that they have put pressure on the hospitals treating affected families. Or that the police they’ve injured might be friends/relatives of the families.

These thugs have made an absolutely tragedy into a race/religious issue and used it as an excuse to push their hateful agenda and then they have the cheek to say that this is how everyone in the country is feeling when it’s not at all.

Not even protests. They had a zoom meeting to plan a protest. That's what they were jailed for.

What gets bit of extra value out of the taxpayer by having a riot? Is that what you do if you feel ignored?

@TattiePants Sorry you and other communities are having to put up with it. We're not in the North East these days but my DH is a Mackem and has said pretty much what you've said. It reminded him of the days when the casuals would turn out for a fight not football. Living near Roker in the 70s and 80s put him off football for life. But they didn't represent Wearside then and they don't now.