Now that she's the official nominee, is anyone else excited about Kamala Harris's chances?

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Just to get it out of the way - I am completely against Trump being elected President. I'm pretty excited to see Kamala being officially nominated, and looking forward to her fighting a strong campaign - albeit slightly nervously. Anyone else?

'She has been roundly criticised'
Again complete vagueness and second hand impressions.

What bizarre behaviour is that? Can you be more specific?

Hi,@Viviennemary

The problem I have and I think others may be having with your posts is that in essence they say ‘the problem I have with Kamala Harris is that I don’t like her.’

If you could provide some rational reasons why I would still disagree , but I might respect you

Lol at fake. Can you be specific?

Viviennemary is indicative of the MAGA supporters, who Trump said wouldn't care if he shot someone dead in broad daylight in NY. They would support him anyway. Despite the fact that Trump is a laughing stock on the world stage, they still think he's a respected figure. Even Putin utterly humiliated him repeatedly and has no respect for him, its pathetic. There is a disconnect with reality.

The plain truth is judging a highly educated professional woman on her smile is deeply misogynistic. It's that ingrained internalised misogyny that perpetuates the pulling down of other women who strive to go further and push higher. The Asian American woman who steps outside her place by not being pleasing enough on a superficial level. It's exactly the sort of discrimination that will make this election historic. That attitude is of the past and belongs there. The younger voters no longer think this way and are pushing to go forward not backwards.

I don’t like her and find it disappointing that she might be the first female US president. I find her insipid and unintelligent in her speeches. I had the misfortune of listening to an interview where she rambled on about hypotheses with the kind of understanding I’d expect a 12 year old to have. I find her constant laughing during interviews jarring and unprofessional. She doesn’t instil me with any kind of confidence that she would be a good and inspiring leader. I don’t envy Americans their choice between her and Trump.

We need to have a Mumsnet online party when Kamala Harris wins in November. It will be a historic moment.

Putting the virtual champagne on ice 😎 🍾 🎉

Think the world will breath a sigh of relief!

Shouldn't you be looking at the bigger picture? The binary choice? What you would end up with, with Trump as POTUS?

I don't mind her being insipid. It reminds me of Johnson v Starmer. He was 'insipid' for choice of a better word compared to BJ with his bluster and soundbites. Very similar comparison
But he Starmer (as KH) is a person of principles. That's what matters. To me anyway.

@BustingBaoBun what makes you think Kamala is a person of principles? What are you basing that on?

I'm basing it on what I've heard, what I've read, her history as a Prosecutor and more.... comparing it to a man famous for 6 bankruptcies, a convicted felon with two impeachments as a failed Presidency and being a laughing stock in the world, and a stint on a reality show.

Do point out her lack of principles and I will research and look into it. Quite happy to do that.

I wasn't sure what I made of her (probably because I'm deeply cynical of American politics) but I've read her autobiography recently and am now genuinely very excited that a woman with her perspective on the world could feasibly be President.

I think she has genuine, considerable, lived experience of understanding and fighting very hard to affect some of the deep rooted and fundamental problems affecting the US, particularly in relation to women and girls, people of colour, those affected by poverty and violence but also victims of corporate greed and those affected by inequality.

I imagine she has to play a somewhat more moderate position in her current role but I do think it's pretty radical that a woman with her perspective is in the running.

I can understand that someone might find her "insipid and unintelligent in her speeches" - I don't see it at all (certainly not unintelligent) but of course its a subjective thing.

But surely anyone would have to agree that she is leagues ahead of Trump in intelligent/coherent speech giving?

“totally unsuitable for a prominent position on the world stage”……
“I think Trump would be the better choice”

This has got to be a wind up!

As I said earlier, there is no point engaging!

You can't argue with stupid

Save your energy for the undecideds and those who are prepared to have evidenced arguments and discussions

You have put that very well. She doesn't give interviews Becaise she is hopeless at them. All she can do is appear with lots of razzmatazz and balloons in front of fawning cheering celebs, totally pathetic amd cringeworthy,

I haven't watched her interviews, but I watched her in senate hearings over the years and I found her to be researched, thoughtful, and willing to press the interviewee (in a congressional hearing), with facts, when necessary. I appreciate that level of preparedness and professionalism and she has a long history in public service.

Also, I don't mind her smile. I think she'd be derided if she didn't smile enough as well. I'll take a happy facade, so long as the wearer is working hard behind the mask.

Will she work for the people, her long history in public service would suggest so. I haven't reviewed her voting history to be entirely sure, but based against her opponent, I'm confident she'll work for the people more than he would.

I'll be voting for her (I'm American, so do have a vote in the matter).

Yes I'm excited that the Democrats have swung behind her. I think she'll make a perfectly good President. I don't know what will get her over the edge but it certainly seems a much more strategic campaign than say Hillary Clinton ran.

I hope the orange seditionist will remain sentient long enough to watch himself lose again. I do understand that a remarkable number of people vote for him. Clearly they think he is the right person for them, fuck knows why. I hope he gets an even smaller minority of votes this time, as well as actually losing the Electoral College.

@AntsMarching

I haven't watched her interviews, but I watched her in senate hearings over the years and I found her to be researched, thoughtful, and willing to press the interviewee (in a congressional hearing), with facts, when necessary. I appreciate that level of preparedness and professionalism and she has a long history in public service.

Yes, she's been excellent in senate hearings. Poised, thoughtful, knowledgable, incisive and unafraid. That's how it becomes clear that posters such as @Viviennemary are posting either from a position of ignorance or maga delusion. I asked her earlier to post some examples to back up her assertions, specifying that they be from primary sourced video or interviews, not Fox News or social media compilations, but so far, just more unsubstantiated name calling.

I can't believe someone criticises Harris for her interviews when her opponent is Trump. If she were running against Barack Obama, who is a brilliant speaker and interviewer, I'd take it. But Trump just spews incoherent nonsense.

Agreed. Kamala hasn't historically been the best at interviews or speeches (though she's certainly hit her stride on the latter) but she's absolutely not unintelligent.

Even if Trump was an otherwise excellent candidate (as opposed to being among the worst ever), his speeches are a nonsensical mess of lies, petty grievances and incoherent ramblings. No wonder nobody goes to his rallies anymore, even his supporters can no longer bear to hear him speak.

This whole thread is embarrassing. There is nothing ‘unintelligent’ about KH. Undercover thick racists.

I disagree with Biden the world got destabilised. With KH as VP.

Democrats are so embarrassing to still come up with shit like this. We are fucking lucky Biden has not come worse given he does not even know where he is half of the time. Even when asked about Venezuelan elections he had to be clarified after what he said as apparently he meant to say the contrary of what he said.

This everyone is weird except the people sticking with the democrats is also too obvious.

Some people realise when everything is being weaponised to suit their purposes. Cat ladies was never about IVF. It was about women with power making decisions that will affect future generations. I always think of Angela Merkel this way. However, for the shortsighted and people who lack critical thinking anything can be twist for to suit narratives.

Of course Trump doesn't do that 🤔

Course he does! Exactly the same but less razamatazz because his audience is a bit bored of his ramblings and they tend to leave halfway through, especially as they've been paid to be there via the advert on Craig's list and be bored

I've got news for you dottiehens. Biden isn't running.