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Is my sisters accident my fault?

272 replies

Babybirdmum · 01/08/2024 18:02

—my sister fell over my child’s toy in my garden and broke her nose/hurt her front teeth.
-I called an ambulance, cared for her, hubby sent text afterwards, I said I’m sorry this happened.
-after I was saying how awful, I googled what happens when you bang your teeth. Kept saying it’s awful.
-she doesn’t remember me saying sorry but I guess she was in shock.
-we have a difficult relationship but have been getting on well recently.
-she phoned me to say if it was at a restaurant then she would sue them, implying that I should give her some compensation. (Because my mum said “she just wants an apology” and she said in the background “no I don’t, I want more”)
-I said are you joking and laughed. She look offence.she said speak to my lawyers (she doesn’t have lawyers so I did t know how to take this).—I was really upset. Accused her of asking me for money to fund her extravagant lifestyle.
-my mum was on speaker during the phone too. She said sister just wanted an apology.
-seems like she wanted money and because I got upset she was blaming me, changed it to wanting an apology. She said she didn’t think I was sorry it happened. I feel I’ve been very compassionate. Not sure what else I could’ve done?
-need outside opinions as I have no clue whether it’s me or her that’s in the wrong. I’ve apologised to her but she doesn’t care how hurt I feel about the phone call, especially when I feel like I’ve supported her.

OP posts:
BowlOfNoodles · 02/08/2024 20:20

I wouldn't of been laughing at any point during a conversation about a broken nose and chipped teeth... that's actually what you should apologise for makes it seem like you couldn't care less. You don't owe her money or an apology for the incident it's Self tho.

liame · 02/08/2024 20:22

Out of curiosity.

If you cancel the ambulance do you then have to call 999 again?

Babybirdmum · 02/08/2024 20:24

liame · 02/08/2024 20:22

Out of curiosity.

If you cancel the ambulance do you then have to call 999 again?

Yes

OP posts:
Babybirdmum · 02/08/2024 20:25

Thank you all it’s good to hear so many different takes on it

OP posts:
HappierTimesAhead · 02/08/2024 20:35

This thread is stressing me out. You can honestly be held liable for a relative (who chose to be in your house and wasn't employed in any way) tripping over a toy?!

Yellowbananasarebetterthangreen · 02/08/2024 20:36

Did she fall (over the toy) because she wasnt looking where she was going? How is that your fault?

CJFJ1 · 02/08/2024 20:36

It's not your fault, OP. Your sister sounds as bad as my brother - an entitled a*se who plays the eternal victim and makes everything about him.

rubylolala · 02/08/2024 20:45

HappierTimesAhead · 02/08/2024 20:35

This thread is stressing me out. You can honestly be held liable for a relative (who chose to be in your house and wasn't employed in any way) tripping over a toy?!

Potentially england.shelter.org.uk/professional_resources/legal/housing_conditions/responsibility_for_repairs/injury_or_damage_caused_by_negligence#title-3

Isinglass20 · 02/08/2024 20:53

Should have gone to Specsavers 🤣🤣

LaLaLoca · 02/08/2024 21:01

I can’t even imagine that the ‘no blame, no claim’ side of the law would be open to this case. I’m sorry that your sister is putting you through this.

Longdueachange · 02/08/2024 21:24

Rosscameasdoody · 02/08/2024 19:36

But if you go to a clients’ home in a professional capacity should you not have your own liability insurance ?

Both - I have my own insurance, but both parties have a duty of care.

Doubledenim305 · 02/08/2024 21:42

Definitely would not be having her back to your house. Awful and dangerous person to have around.

Tortycatlover · 02/08/2024 21:46

Your sister is very unreasonable. She needs to apologise to you for not thanking you for taking care of her, and also for demanding an apology for her accident when it was clearly not your fault. I wouldn’t invite her round again in case she has another accident.

Vergeofbreakdown23 · 02/08/2024 21:52

Rosscameasdoody · 02/08/2024 19:33

OP didn’t take her to hospital - she called an ambulance.

No. She cancelled the ambulance as the bleeding stopped and her mum was able to take her!

PracticalLady · 02/08/2024 22:21

Good grief, families eh! Whatever happened to loyalty? The fact is, she should look where she is going and you apologised when it really wasn't your fault. I don't see what else you can do.

suki1964 · 02/08/2024 22:28

ScartlettSole · 02/08/2024 20:04

I very much doubt her tripping over a toy is grounds for a law suit in the uk.

Seriously it is

ScartlettSole · 02/08/2024 22:33

suki1964 · 02/08/2024 22:28

Seriously it is

My daughter broke her arm 7 weeks ago because my mum fell on her on a trampoline at my mums house. So i could sue for that?! Absolutely bonkers

78Summer · 02/08/2024 22:35

It was an accident. I went to a friend’s house her 3 year old son pinched my bottom and I fell over and smashed my head on a brick wall. I ended up with a minor brain injury which took two years to heal. I did not blame her. Accidents happen and often in the home.

Ukrainebaby23 · 02/08/2024 22:39

Babybirdmum · 02/08/2024 20:25

Thank you all it’s good to hear so many different takes on it

Our family, I suspect would have fallen about laughing and then carted me off to minor injuries if I really needed it. No way would we sue each other, if costs, eg dentistry, involved and I was hard up then maybe someone might help me out but I doubt I'd ask, and certainly wouldn't expect. Even my ex's DSC aren't that CF.

suki1964 · 02/08/2024 22:44

ScartlettSole · 02/08/2024 22:33

My daughter broke her arm 7 weeks ago because my mum fell on her on a trampoline at my mums house. So i could sue for that?! Absolutely bonkers

Seriously - yes you can

Look Im not saying where there's an accident there's a claim, but the truth is, if someone is hurt badly, on your premises , through your negligence , enough that they cant work, need surgery etc, then yes they have to claim. This is why most people pay for insurance

Ive posted above on this thread, it happened to me. I never even found a solicitor for 4 months after said accident, because I didnt realise at the time how badly injured I was, I lost my job, spent 4 months on the sofa and bed, and then months of physio and a change of job , earning less.

And seriously I think a broken nose and damaged teeth needs a bit or treatment not offered on the NHS so why should she not put a claim in? Would YOU walk around with an obviously broken nose and ugly teeth?

ScartlettSole · 02/08/2024 22:53

suki1964 · 02/08/2024 22:44

Seriously - yes you can

Look Im not saying where there's an accident there's a claim, but the truth is, if someone is hurt badly, on your premises , through your negligence , enough that they cant work, need surgery etc, then yes they have to claim. This is why most people pay for insurance

Ive posted above on this thread, it happened to me. I never even found a solicitor for 4 months after said accident, because I didnt realise at the time how badly injured I was, I lost my job, spent 4 months on the sofa and bed, and then months of physio and a change of job , earning less.

And seriously I think a broken nose and damaged teeth needs a bit or treatment not offered on the NHS so why should she not put a claim in? Would YOU walk around with an obviously broken nose and ugly teeth?

I wouldnt dream of suing my mum over an accident, we have had to go the full summer holiday with her in a cast and still wouldnt dream of it.

If i fell over a toy at a childs house, id pay for the dentist myself and learn an (expensive!) lesson to look where im going.

I wouldnt entertain or keep contact with any friends or family who were like this. My house is a home, theres toys lying about. Either accept that and watch where you walk or dont come.

suki1964 · 02/08/2024 23:23

ScartlettSole · 02/08/2024 22:53

I wouldnt dream of suing my mum over an accident, we have had to go the full summer holiday with her in a cast and still wouldnt dream of it.

If i fell over a toy at a childs house, id pay for the dentist myself and learn an (expensive!) lesson to look where im going.

I wouldnt entertain or keep contact with any friends or family who were like this. My house is a home, theres toys lying about. Either accept that and watch where you walk or dont come.

Well Im so happy that you are in a position that you can afford to "pay an expensive" lesson

I thought I would be off work a few days. My whole life has changed

Insurance allows for those like me , injured severely, through no fault of theirs, and yes I was looking where I was going, to at least be able to live a life. I had to cash in a pension to be able to afford to live ,£92 a week sick pay ( or whatever it was) doesn't go far

Im near two years down the line. Im not wanting a fortune or anything, just loss of earnings for the 8 months I couldn't work. Im not looking compo for the fact I couldn't dress myself, go to the loo myself, drive, leave the house, etc etc etc, Im not even looking to be put back in the finical position I was in before the accident - if I get that - bonus.

End of the day I had a serious accident , even though at the time it wasnt seen as such, on someone else's premises and Ive been left out of pocket and in pain with a limited range of movement. Why should I walk away?

Pinkdhalia · 02/08/2024 23:27

It was an accident! She could claim off her private health insurance she probably has that? Or her home insurance there might be a section in that for accidents outsides the home? Don't say you have one if you have tho!!!!

Bridewel1 · 03/08/2024 00:20

I’m shocked that she’d contemplate suing you. So if it were me I’d have nothing to do with her. I’d write her a letter saying - ‘I’m sorry for your accident that I did apologise for and I immediately rushed to your aid and called for an ambulance and you repay me by saying you’ll sue me. Just when I thought we were getting along and you drop this bombshell on me. I’m deeply hurt by your actions. Wether or not you go through with this I feel like i shouldn’t have anyone in my life that treats me like this.’

llizzie · 03/08/2024 00:41

Exactlab · 02/08/2024 19:14

I think many people are giving their views on what they personally feel - not what the law actually says.

Yes, from a legal standpoint OP is liable and there is significant case law on this.

People in the US usually sue for injury because they can’t access universal healthcare so the legal route is the only recourse.

It’s not just an American thing. It is common for people in Germany to have insurance in case someone gets accidentally injured in their home.

If the OP’s sister requires significant dental work or a plastic surgeon to correct her nose then she could sue her sister to have her pay.

It is usually an American thing, because health costs are high. They are in other countries too. Only in the UK is there a free health service. The problem is that you have to wait weeks or months for an appointment. Emergency room treatment is free, so long as you are prepared to wait for hours while the world and his wife are dealt with.

Just because we have the NHS shouldn't mean that if someone injures themselves on your property they are entitled to fast treatment. If they need surgery, why should they have to be in an open ward, sometimes with different sexes, having to get up and go to the bathroom at night, when you are not sure where it is, having to eat NHS food.

No! If anyone is injured on someone else's property they are entitled to be treated immediately and privately. In fact, it is possible that, just like road traffic accidents, if there is a possibility of insurance involved, then the NHS would claim on that even in a shared room and delays in treatment.

Everyone should have insurance. Why would it be any different for a sibling than a stranger? A sibling has rights, and if there is no insurance, then it comes out of your pocket - and legal fees to boot if they have to sue to get it.