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Huw Edwards

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Aquarius1234 · 31/07/2024 09:50

To think he shouldn't have been paid in full while off long term. As its more like being self employed.
But mainly cos it was 475k upwards of our TV licence money!
Another example is when a famous radio presenter s decide to go off for an extended break to film another show or something. Surely they don't get normal pay when they have extra weeks off not on air!!

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EsmaCannonball · 31/07/2024 21:27

LiterallyOnFire · 31/07/2024 21:07

What? What has India got to do with it?

Stuck with her partner who was caught with a Category A video of very young children (earliest age was 12 months). Her standing by her man was given as a reason why he should avoid prison. Apparently all this meant that her then teenage daughter either couldn't or wouldn't stay living with her mother. Her partner, the former MP Eric Joyce, seems to have multiple issues, to say the least.

cathyandclaire · 31/07/2024 21:38

That article by Burchill! Thanks for sharing, I had no idea about Eric Joyce's crimes, I only knew he got drunk and agro in the HOC. Shocked about his searches- horrific,

PassingStranger · 31/07/2024 22:00

Horrible Nonce.
Should be made to pay some back.

LiterallyOnFire · 31/07/2024 22:05

Oh yes, I remember now. Thanks.

Bromptotoo · 31/07/2024 22:59

LiterallyOnFire · 31/07/2024 17:01

I'm fucking sick to death of people who think mental health is a 'card' you can play in the courts or if you're in trouble/underperforming at work.

Another version, 'Playing the Race Card' has been found discriminatory. And so should derogatory references to Mental Health.

I'm not entirely sure which way you mean that @Bromptotoo but if you mean people shouldn't use the phrase "playing the MH card" to describe the act of pleading MH conditions in mitigation of criminal conduct, I think it's the opposite.

Surely what stigmatises MH conditions is the idea that they make you more likely to commit sex offences or violent offences or whatever.

Most MH conditions don't make it more likely that you'll commit a crime, so what's the relevance?

If I had depression and I heard that Huw E's sentence was going to be slightly lighter than it would have been on account of his depression, I think I'd feel smeared TBH. Or at least insulted. Depressed people are not at risk of irresistible urges to view abuse images.

It's not about likelihood of committing offences, sexual or otherwise, but whether the sentence should be eased/reduced because of health conditions: mental or otherwise.

Various members of my family and that of my DP have had mental health diagnoses ranging from relatively minor anxiety through depression to full on Bi-Polar. I also spent a significant chunk of my career working with people with conditions ranging from Bi-Polar and Schizophrenia through head injury to Dementia

The idea that those are a 'card' you can play when life gives you trouble is grossly offensive.

BIossomtoes · 31/07/2024 23:01

You make out it's just silly celeb gossip

Do I? I think that’s you making stuff up again. There will be another scandal along in a minute. There always is.

SmellsLikeMiddleAgeSpirit · 31/07/2024 23:14

Janiie · 31/07/2024 20:10

Someone else's turn. You make out it's just silly celeb gossip.

It 'died down for a year' as his wife did the 'he's been admitted to hospital poor Huw' bollocks thus online chat stopped. I hope she's ashamed of releasing that statement now.

Seriously? You hope HE's wife is ashamed?
She's been publicly humiliated, betrayed, shocked, heartbroken.... and has had to try to protect her children from glare of publicity, all because of something someone else did and she knew nothing about.

And you want HER to be ashamed? Christ on a fucking bike.

HRTQueen · 31/07/2024 23:52

BIossomtoes · 31/07/2024 23:01

You make out it's just silly celeb gossip

Do I? I think that’s you making stuff up again. There will be another scandal along in a minute. There always is.

Its a very serious offence that involves being complicit with children being sexually abused

this will be remembered due to the very serious nature of what has happened to the victims his name will come up time and time again for many years to come

Aquarius1234 · 31/07/2024 23:59

Nicky Campbell s thoughts:-

Let’s think about the children in these images. Callously exploited and psychologically destroyed. They are not images. They are humans who will live with this forever and all for the twisted pleasure of the disgusting men who trade and swap this misery. And don’t call it child ‘pornography’. journalists. It is ‘abusive images’.

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Aquarius1234 · 01/08/2024 00:01

Yes absolutely I'm sure most people don't think the images are of living human beings.
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Heronwatcher · 01/08/2024 00:05

SmellsLikeMiddleAgeSpirit · 31/07/2024 23:14

Seriously? You hope HE's wife is ashamed?
She's been publicly humiliated, betrayed, shocked, heartbroken.... and has had to try to protect her children from glare of publicity, all because of something someone else did and she knew nothing about.

And you want HER to be ashamed? Christ on a fucking bike.

Agree! Wasn’t it his poor wife who had to release his name when everyone already knew but all the media outlets were too gutless to say it?

HRTQueen · 01/08/2024 00:07

Some offenders who also have a mh diagnosis will try and use their mh diagnosis I don’t think it’s offensive to say this. Some try and manipulate those around them, possibly to evade charges or alter the outcome (a secure unit is far more preferable to majority of sex offenders than prison)

I have seen it a number of times it didn’t work (that isn’t to say it has not worked for some)

sex offenders are particularly tricky to work with the levels of manipulation is incredibly challenging to work with

HRTQueen · 01/08/2024 00:14

I agree his wife and family have been living a life of lies

he is the guilty one I feel very sorry for them all

Runnerinthenight · 01/08/2024 01:26

I've been eviscerated for saying this on another thread, but I am going to stick my neck out anyway and say that his wife and his children are also his victims.

RedToothBrush · 01/08/2024 07:31

Runnerinthenight · 01/08/2024 01:26

I've been eviscerated for saying this on another thread, but I am going to stick my neck out anyway and say that his wife and his children are also his victims.

They are.

She's apparently lovely. But doesn't take any shit. Not the type to turn a blind eye if she knew by all accounts.

susiedaisy1912 · 01/08/2024 07:41

Runnerinthenight · 01/08/2024 01:26

I've been eviscerated for saying this on another thread, but I am going to stick my neck out anyway and say that his wife and his children are also his victims.

Completely agree. He's ruined their lives as well.

Over40Overdating · 01/08/2024 08:13

@Runnerinthenight agree, they absolutely are. The shame of defending him when he was still keeping secrets.

From his wife’s POV wondering if there were signs she missed, did she protect the children etc.

Every family occasion will now be marked by his absence and the reasons for it.

And if/when his children start to become parents themselves the questions will start again and they’ll see him in an even worse light. How could you ever let a man who spent months chatting to a convicted paedophile and didn’t report those images of children, anywhere near your own children.

He’s had - on the face of it - an enviable life and destroyed it all because he was getting his kicks texting young men and looking at porn, and didn’t have the guts to do the right thing when the porn became CSA material, because protecting his dirty secret was more important than doing the right thing by innocent children.

EasternStandard · 01/08/2024 08:14

HRTQueen · 31/07/2024 23:52

Its a very serious offence that involves being complicit with children being sexually abused

this will be remembered due to the very serious nature of what has happened to the victims his name will come up time and time again for many years to come

Category A and including age 7 to 9

Listening now to report, sounds horrendous

CantDealwithChristmas · 01/08/2024 08:27

Runnerinthenight · 31/07/2024 15:36

I wouldn't imagine they were bezzie mates... Most people wouldn't know where to start to look for someone who could share such images! I wonder if the sender knew who he was corresponding with.

His poor wife and family. They must be under such a cloud of shame, through no fault of their own. I hope the police are onto the lowlife who accessed the material, and that children can be rescued as a result.

Maybe not bezzie mates but they would definitely have known each other. Maybe not in person but certainly a long enough online relationship to know that they could trust each other not to go to the police.

Online paedophiles typically spend a fair while on dark net forums testing each other out and getting to know each other, figuring out who they can trust and what the other person is 'into', often using codewords to establish 'tastes', before graduating to sending images on telegram and whatsapp.

They simply do not risk their freedom by sending images on spec to someone they don't know who might go to the police.

Make no mistake, HE wouldn't have been an innocent and unwitting recipient of images. He would've been deep into this before those images ever winged their way to his phone.

Janiie · 01/08/2024 08:28

SmellsLikeMiddleAgeSpirit · 31/07/2024 23:14

Seriously? You hope HE's wife is ashamed?
She's been publicly humiliated, betrayed, shocked, heartbroken.... and has had to try to protect her children from glare of publicity, all because of something someone else did and she knew nothing about.

And you want HER to be ashamed? Christ on a fucking bike.

Yes I think she should feel ashamed for releasing that highly dramatic poor pervert Huw has been admitted to a clinic he has mh problems can we stop talking about him now statement. She should have let him do his own statements.

CantDealwithChristmas · 01/08/2024 08:40

cathyandclaire · 31/07/2024 17:12

It seems from reports that the police only found about Huw Edward’s involvement from looking at the other man’s (Alex Williams, 25) phone and saw HE’s number. So he covered things up on his phone (or they never investigated fully). It does make you wonder what else may have been missed.

He probably just refused to hand his phone over. He wouldn't have been under any obligation to give it and he would've had a shit hot expensive lawyer to argue his case.

Sharptonguedwoman · 01/08/2024 08:43

Aquarius1234 · 31/07/2024 09:58

What if it was for 2/ 3 years. You don't mind that it's 3 million.

There's a difference between 'minding' and employment laws, no?

noworklifebalance · 01/08/2024 08:54

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RickyGervaislovesdogs · 01/08/2024 09:02

@Over40Overdating Eye for an eye. To be honest it’s too good for him, bet he doesn’t even do any jail time. He will get a house in Thailand or retire with his wife if she will have him 🤢

I couldn’t begin to tell you what I’d like to see inflicted on child and animal abusers because I’d be banned from mn. Suffice enough to say they’re a waste of good organs.

cathyandclaire · 01/08/2024 09:06

Huw Edwards' phone was apparently stolen the night before the Queen's death - which presumably would have been the phone with this chat on. It fits with the time given for his WhatsApps with Williams.
www.facebook.com/timesandsundaytimes/posts/huw-edwards-had-his-phone-stolen-at-a-restaurant-the-night-before-the-queen-died/6105723849456846/
It's on a few news sites, most with paywalls- but this is a free headline.

Was it stolen or 'lost' a la Rebekah Vardy? If he had a burner phone, it seems unlikely that S Wales police would have known Williams was communicating with Edwards.

It seems the police discovered the chats from Williams' side only. After a phone is lost would HE's account still show old chats? Some news reports have said that he didn't share or download the images- but would his unencrypted WhatsApp records show that level of detail, does anyone know?

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