Huw Edwards

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To think he shouldn't have been paid in full while off long term. As its more like being self employed.
But mainly cos it was 475k upwards of our TV licence money!
Another example is when a famous radio presenter s decide to go off for an extended break to film another show or something. Surely they don't get normal pay when they have extra weeks off not on air!!

The thought of this beast not, as has been suggested, having to do any kind of jail time turns my stomach.

Ah yes, the sickening India Knight. When tackled about her husband's fondness for watching babies being sexually assaulted she dismissed it with "But it happened ages ago". Oh well, that's perfectly acceptable then.

You are misrepresenting the comments on the other thread.

The issue on the that thread was:
the OP’s father was convicted of similar crimes
the OP wanted to continue playing happy families with their father (like his siblings and mother were)
their wife wanted nothing to do with them (her FIL) and it was causing difficulties in their marriage.
It also sounded like OP had primary aged children.

The overwhelming majority of posters said that they would have nothing to with anyone in their family who was involved in child sexual abuse. Pretty much what @Over40Overdating said in response to your post on this thread:
And if/when his children start to become parents themselves the questions will start again and they’ll see him in an even worse light. How could you ever let a man who spent months chatting to a convicted paedophile and didn’t report those images of children, anywhere near your own children

That is why the OP on that thread (and probably you also)was eviscerated. NOT because anyone thought the wife and children of the abuser were not victims.

H.E’s family must be in turmoil and feel a huge amount of shame.
They have nowhere to hide - their families, neighbours, friends, colleagues, those at the school gate etc will know what their father, husband, brother, cousin has done. It will be so hard for them to come to terms with this and move on.
However, I will rapidly lose sympathy if this is something they were aware of and didn’t report it or they stand by H.E.

Sorry to quote myself and drone on about this - but it's reported that:

Philip Evans KC, defending Edwards, said: 'It is important to remember for context that, as you would expect, the devices were seized and searched and there's nothing on those devices.'

If Edwards' report that his phone was stolen is true, then the device searched is new. It seems unlikely that he had two known devices ( work and home for eg) because the BBC and his son couldn't reach him on his mobile on the day of the Queen's death and had to reach him at his barber's.

@RickyGervaislovesdogs you’re conveniently forgetting the end of that phrase - makes the whole world blind.

If violence and sexual assault are ok as ‘punishment’ for crimes, then people appointment themselves as the law and excuse their violence as deserved.

There can be no place for that kind of thinking in a just society and anyone advocating for sexual assault as justice is part of the problem, however moral you think your stance is.

Rather off-topic, but:

"Philip Evans KC, defending..."

It's a totally different world for the wealthy. Having a KC for a guilty plea in the magistrates court. He's been a silk for eight years and ranked on the Legal500 so he isn't going to come cheap.

Agreed @Another2Cats - and even with ( presumably- no shade intended I don't know who it was ) a bog-standard defence Alex Williams only had a suspended sentence.

There's no justice, not really.

He'll probably get less prison time than some (poor women) get for not paying their TV license. Where's the justice there?

Children's lives are treated as disposable and there are powerful men in positions of power enabling paedophilia. Time for it to stop.

The mother who contacted the BBC and was brushed off - they need to investigate that, but honestly I just want the BBC gone now. Even the way they report about criminal child sexual abuse all too often minimises it (e.g. discussing trafficked children in India as 'sex workers' when they're 12-14). Corrupt to the core and no changes or lessons learned since Savile.

I wondered about the 'stolen' phone, too. Did something happen that made him think it might be a good idea if that phone disappeared? Perhaps his dodgy WhatsApp buddy had gone quiet for too long or Huw found out he had been arrested.

Doesn’t have to be painful- there are anaesthetics.

He has no place in society in my opinion.

Sorry, I’m sure a stern telling off and a week in Spain for rehab or mental health purposes will sort Huw out. Is that how you would you deal with this filthy cretin.

‘Philip Evans KC, defending Edwards, said: 'It is important to remember for context that, as you would expect, the devices were seized and searched and there's nothing on those devices.'

Criminals go to great lengths to avoid being caught. Using unregistered phones and throwing them away after a few uses or weeks is hardly unheard of.
I could go out right now and get an unregistered PAYG phone, it’s not rocket science.
Pretty sure Huw could afford some old or even new Chromebooks too… and for those who thinks that’s seems far fetched, it’s EXACTLY what paedos and sex offenders to to disguise their behaviour from family, and to mitigate risk …

I wonder what it was about the images that he got caught with that made them so special
to him that he kept them?

Actually when I worked for the vice squad we were often amazed at how little people did to cover up and hide what they were doing. It is hiding in plain sight, I mean how often on here do we here of a partner realising something is going on because they find a new phone or behaviour round the phone changes.

It doesn't have to be one extreme or the other, there is a vast middle ground.

Such as?

@RickyGervaislovesdogs jail time, full extent of the law, offenders registers, rehabilitation. There are many more options than killing people or revelling in the idea of sexual assault as punishment. That’s a really twisted line of thinking and I’m sorry you view the world like that and think it’s compassion and retribution.

@Shaketherombooga I believe the police when they say there was no evidence on other devices and it was confined to WhatsApp.

A man with a very public profile, using a phone and number that is clearly linked to him in a compromising chat thread is too arrogant or naive to have other devices he’s lost or dumped. No one who was even remotely tech savvy would use their own number or name in a situation like that.

But there is also a sense of being untouchable - over lockdown a well know theatre director killed himself as he had been arrested for possession, creation and distribution of the most extreme CSA material and police recovered hundreds of hard drives, memory cards and devices that he had openly displayed in his house and had shown to others he had been abusing. He had been pushing the boundaries of what he could get away with in public view for so long he was no longer careful about who knew what he was doing.

Or maybe the thought of being caught is part of the thrill.

Most predators hide in plain sight by choosing victims who don't matter or by operating in the kind of boys club which looks the other way or minimises the behaviour.

The BBC had a toxic culture around predators since way back - the idea that senior people at the Beeb were not aware of the culture that enabled the likes of Saville is for the birds. Most of his victims, like the Rotherham girls, were targets who they could ignore for convenience as unimportant.

The BBC certainly wasn't unique in this but the power and value of 'star talent" certainly magnifies the effect.

The phrase “Huw Edwards witch hunt” is interesting.

Huw carefully managed his employment, pay & phone “loss” because he has knowingly committed behaviors and has been aware of how to maximize situation for own self interest.
Huw took paid MH leave so he could continue to receive full pay. He could have taken an unpaid leave but smugly chose to take maximum “sick” pay when he knew he was going lose his job because of his behavior.

Do not believe for one moment that he was really legit unwell. He was feeling exactly as anyone in a sex offender pedo investigation would.

The victims, they dont have the option of saying they feel unwell and collect 100s thousands.

No evidence on other devices, in an alternate universe where Huw's phone wasn't nicked by a thief in a restaurant the night before the Queen died-
I wonder if the Police would've found more damning evidence.

I guess we'll never know now...

He hasn't committed a crime? No doubt that's why he was arrested, charged, appeared in court and, (in his own self-interest) pleaded guilty.

What part of 'criminal offence' has passed these deluded apologists by? Social media has sounded the death knell on thinking, let alone critical thinking. TwiX et al have a lot to answer for.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13697221/pictured-alex-williams-sent-images-huw-edwards-children.html

@Wetherspoons why would he have lost a phone on purpose when he was not at that time under investigation for anything?

And even if he lost his phone, the number was still linked to him as it was his personal phone number not a burner. His conversations were still traceable via the people he was chatting with.

Sometimes a coincidence is just a coincidence. The obsessive need to create a narrative in retrospect doesn’t actually add anything to the story. The truth of it is bad enough without the facts being lost in conjecture and theories based on ‘well I think’.

The reporting of these stories needs to stick to the facts because otherwise it becomes too easy for the prepatrators to twist the truth as well via ‘see all the lies people told about me? Well it’s all lies actually’.

why would he have lost a phone on purpose when he was not at that time under investigation for anything?

Given the BBC's history of coverups, and remembering it's said that their inaction drove the parents of a previous victim to approach the media instead, I wouldn't want to assume that Edwards would be ignorant of more upcoming accusations

Even if he lost his phone, the number was still linked to him as it was his personal phone number not a burner

How do we know he wasn't using burners as well or instead of?

FWIW I do agree that "sometimes a coincidence is just a coincidence", but assumptions are being made in both directions here and I'm not sure that's wise