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Huw Edwards

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Aquarius1234 · 31/07/2024 09:50

To think he shouldn't have been paid in full while off long term. As its more like being self employed.
But mainly cos it was 475k upwards of our TV licence money!
Another example is when a famous radio presenter s decide to go off for an extended break to film another show or something. Surely they don't get normal pay when they have extra weeks off not on air!!

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Oneearringlost · 31/07/2024 14:38

I feel ever so sorry for his children.

Nobodyknowsitall5 · 31/07/2024 14:39

Lampslights · 31/07/2024 14:36

This is just such a mitigating statement, he was receiving the images from a paedophile then discussing them after, he only said stop sending when it was the 7 year old being raped. And only for kids that young.

why would anyone want to try to downplay his part on it. A super fan. A paedo sympathiser, or simply ignorant on what occurred?

Ehh are you suggesting I'm downplaying it and a peado sympathiser??

LostTheMarble · 31/07/2024 14:40

Nobodyknowsitall5 · 31/07/2024 14:30

The media have reported that he was sent the images, he didn't asked for them and told the dirty perv to not send him illegals. He deleted the images. He is guilty of the offence simply because the images had at one point been on his phone. I'm not standing up for him here but trying to understand it all.

Again, do you not think the aspect where he has another man send him a collection of explicit materials isn’t a huge red flag to the reasons why he’s pleaded guilty? Again, if his attraction is to teen-looking men, there’s huge access to that online. Why do you think he had ‘a guy’ specifically for sexual images?

Lampslights · 31/07/2024 14:40

Nobodyknowsitall5 · 31/07/2024 14:39

Ehh are you suggesting I'm downplaying it and a peado sympathiser??

Right on the first one, you absolutely downplayed it, wrong on the second one, I gave a list of reasons, inc ignorance and super fan, and asked the question on why.

westisbest1982 · 31/07/2024 14:40

He didn't delete the images. They were found in the WhatsApp chat. He pleaded guilty to making images (which includes posession, distribution and production). There were 41 images in total.

Nobodyknowsitall5 · 31/07/2024 14:41

LostTheMarble · 31/07/2024 14:40

Again, do you not think the aspect where he has another man send him a collection of explicit materials isn’t a huge red flag to the reasons why he’s pleaded guilty? Again, if his attraction is to teen-looking men, there’s huge access to that online. Why do you think he had ‘a guy’ specifically for sexual images?

I don't know. That's why I made the point, to gain more understanding around it.

RepresentMe · 31/07/2024 14:42

Edwards was unlikely to report receiving these illegal images when he was obviously living this double-life, indulging in the exchange of pornographic images with a young man (who was obviously over the age of consent otherwise he’d be getting charged for that?) The children in question obviously must have looked young but he was trying to cover himself by ‘checking’ whether they were ‘legal’ or not. But he continued with his WhatsAp ‘relationship’ with this person. He obviously enjoyed the type of images he was being supplied with which must have involved torture/sadism.

The question is, who was this other person supplying these images to him? And where did this person get them? And why continue communicating with a person who obviously gets off on this stuff? And has this person been investigated and charged? Did they know they were communicating with Huw Edwards? Are we ever going to find out their identity?

Nobodyknowsitall5 · 31/07/2024 14:42

Lampslights · 31/07/2024 14:40

Right on the first one, you absolutely downplayed it, wrong on the second one, I gave a list of reasons, inc ignorance and super fan, and asked the question on why.

Not downplaying it at all. Like I said, just trying to understand it all. Your first paragraph was actually really helpful so thanks for that.

Over40Overdating · 31/07/2024 14:44

@RickyGervaislovesdogs that’s disgusting even if you are being coy about what you mean. You either condemn sexual violence or you don’t. There’s no ‘one kind is bad, one kind is justice’.
This is the kind of thinking that perpetuates the attitude that sexual assault can be justified as a power move.

Lampslights · 31/07/2024 14:45

RepresentMe · 31/07/2024 14:42

Edwards was unlikely to report receiving these illegal images when he was obviously living this double-life, indulging in the exchange of pornographic images with a young man (who was obviously over the age of consent otherwise he’d be getting charged for that?) The children in question obviously must have looked young but he was trying to cover himself by ‘checking’ whether they were ‘legal’ or not. But he continued with his WhatsAp ‘relationship’ with this person. He obviously enjoyed the type of images he was being supplied with which must have involved torture/sadism.

The question is, who was this other person supplying these images to him? And where did this person get them? And why continue communicating with a person who obviously gets off on this stuff? And has this person been investigated and charged? Did they know they were communicating with Huw Edwards? Are we ever going to find out their identity?

It’s not that simple. He wasn’t just reviewing images, the two men were discussing each one. It was an ongoing chat on them/ and he only asked not to be sent images of kids as young as 7.

Scirocco · 31/07/2024 14:45

Iloveyoubut · 31/07/2024 14:14

I’m confused by this too.

If someone gave you an unsolicited bag of cocaine, you'd (hopefully) think "This is illegal, I need to report this to the police and get it far away from me". You probably wouldn't store it somewhere.

It's the same principle. If someone is sent illegal images of child abuse then those images need to be taken to the police. Having a stored copy is considered making images because the perpetrator is creating a new copy which is then able to be stored and shared, to further spread the abuse of the victim. If something is downloaded unintentionally (eg auto-download on a messaging app), then that needs to be reported to the police by the person who has received them, as soon as they realise what has happened.

Lampslights · 31/07/2024 14:46

Nobodyknowsitall5 · 31/07/2024 14:42

Not downplaying it at all. Like I said, just trying to understand it all. Your first paragraph was actually really helpful so thanks for that.

Yeah, I think some confusion on here, some folks seem to think some random was just sending him rape images and he was just some passive receiver . That’s not remotely the case.

Heronwatcher · 31/07/2024 14:47

EsmaCannonball · 31/07/2024 14:15

Who do you think the BBC should get in to dub over the commentary on all those royal weddings, funerals and coronations? I vote for Brian Blessed.

Jedward
Sue Pollard
Hacker the Dog from cbeebies

Was going to suggest Vicky Pollard in character, Gordon the Gopher or Mr Tumble but they’re all nearly as problematic as Huw in their own way 🙄

In all seriousness, what about all the very competent and good female middle aged newsreaders who the BBC got rid off whilst keeping Huw on the payroll (Carrie Gracie, Martine Croxall etc)…

Lampslights · 31/07/2024 14:48

Scirocco · 31/07/2024 14:45

If someone gave you an unsolicited bag of cocaine, you'd (hopefully) think "This is illegal, I need to report this to the police and get it far away from me". You probably wouldn't store it somewhere.

It's the same principle. If someone is sent illegal images of child abuse then those images need to be taken to the police. Having a stored copy is considered making images because the perpetrator is creating a new copy which is then able to be stored and shared, to further spread the abuse of the victim. If something is downloaded unintentionally (eg auto-download on a messaging app), then that needs to be reported to the police by the person who has received them, as soon as they realise what has happened.

sure, but that’s not the issue here, h3 was an active participant. It’s been reported from the court. He only said stop when the child was a 7 year old boy. The rest were between 7 and 14 and he didn’t, he was receiving then they were discussing them. And not in a please stop way.

thankyouangela · 31/07/2024 14:49

But I wonder if he should pay any of it back now he has admitted his guilt in court?

pinkstripeycat · 31/07/2024 14:49

LostTheMarble · 31/07/2024 09:55

We should avoid speculation as it will get the thread deleted.

It’s already in the news so not speculation

Fluffyelephant · 31/07/2024 14:51

Lampslights · 31/07/2024 14:48

sure, but that’s not the issue here, h3 was an active participant. It’s been reported from the court. He only said stop when the child was a 7 year old boy. The rest were between 7 and 14 and he didn’t, he was receiving then they were discussing them. And not in a please stop way.

Where does it say this? Just wondering where the specifics of this are being reported as said different on BBC News.. but I guess BBC News would want to make it sound not quite so bad.

Lampslights · 31/07/2024 14:51

pinkstripeycat · 31/07/2024 14:49

It’s already in the news so not speculation

No it’s not speculation, the man just pleaded guilty and it’s widely reported on what the police found. And why he’s now facing a significant jail sentence.

Lampslights · 31/07/2024 14:52

Fluffyelephant · 31/07/2024 14:51

Where does it say this? Just wondering where the specifics of this are being reported as said different on BBC News.. but I guess BBC News would want to make it sound not quite so bad.

Just Google, all major media outlets. The details of the case are everywhere.

Scirocco · 31/07/2024 14:52

Lampslights · 31/07/2024 14:48

sure, but that’s not the issue here, h3 was an active participant. It’s been reported from the court. He only said stop when the child was a 7 year old boy. The rest were between 7 and 14 and he didn’t, he was receiving then they were discussing them. And not in a please stop way.

I'm explaining why it's considered possession or making of images, in general, as someone said they were confused.

Not excusing or justifying in any way. All the evidence I've seen suggests a guilty plea is entirely accurate and he needs to face the consequences. Child abuse doesn't stop once the video is made - every shared file, every view is perpetuating it and adding to the trauma.

LostTheMarble · 31/07/2024 14:53

pinkstripeycat · 31/07/2024 14:49

It’s already in the news so not speculation

I’m not sure why something I posted before he pleaded guilty and when the thread matter was of a different subject to what it’s now obviously about is being quoted again this late in the day. Especially since I’ve posted several times since.

EsmaCannonball · 31/07/2024 14:54

Lougle · 31/07/2024 10:52

He told the sender not to send illegal images. If he had deleted them immediately, or taken them to the police, then I guess he wouldn't have been charged.

The fact that he stayed friendly with a man who sent him pictures of children being sexually abused tells you everything you need to know about Huw. He didn't report these images to the police, he didn't report the man, and he stayed in contact with him. He couldn't have been that upset if he didn't cut the sender off.

It makes you wonder about the company he kept. It also makes me wonder about all those stories of him making payments to young men. I'd assumed that he was only paying for explicit selfies and sexual favours, or that he was being blackmailed. Is it possible, though, that he was paying the person who was sending these images? Were men sending him these images in exchange for money?

friendlycat · 31/07/2024 14:55

I feel sorry for his children and his wife in all of this as well. I understand his wife separated from him a while back, but she was brave also when she made her statement previously outing him as the tv personality in the headlines last year.

They too are innocent people caught in the mess of his life.

Lilysgoneshopping · 31/07/2024 14:57

Maybe be pleaded guilty to stop any further digging into his sordid little world

MeouwCat · 31/07/2024 14:57

He is a devout christian apparantly and a regular church goer.

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