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Huw Edwards

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Aquarius1234 · 31/07/2024 09:50

To think he shouldn't have been paid in full while off long term. As its more like being self employed.
But mainly cos it was 475k upwards of our TV licence money!
Another example is when a famous radio presenter s decide to go off for an extended break to film another show or something. Surely they don't get normal pay when they have extra weeks off not on air!!

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LostTheMarble · 31/07/2024 14:10

DysonSphere · 31/07/2024 14:03

My understanding is there are actually organisations out there that can help with men who feel paedophilic proclivities. If I remember correctly there is at least one organisation that runs a helpline. Why don't these people seek help before they get themselves in deep trouble?

It’s a slippery slope of excuses that convinces themselves that they’re not actually doing wrong. And too many people back them up. The whole ‘16 is the legal age of consent’ and ‘and 18 year old is an adult that can make their own choices’ means that the bar is set exceptionally low. It gets these men thinking if 16 is ok, why not 15, 14, there’s little difference in their minds. I’m fully in favour of staggering the age of consent so adult men do not have the right to sexual contact with any teenager.

RedToothBrush · 31/07/2024 14:12

hamstersarse · 31/07/2024 14:08

@RedToothBrush Yes, thanks. I wasn't aware that it could be that it was unsolicited.

Strange I've never received 'unsolicited' child rape pictures.

You'd think at the most basic level that paedophiles are slightly cautious about who they send them to...

Exactly.

He was 'trusted'.

This is also something teenagers should be made aware of - if they end up in a group or sent pictures of another teen - they need to tell an adult because its a serious situation they too could get into trouble about.

Naunet · 31/07/2024 14:12

the80sweregreat · 31/07/2024 14:08

There are probably two things going on here.
He paid the teenager money for grubby photos and sounds as if other things were sent on to him, but he didn't report it because he didn't want to be found out for the former.
Happy to be corrected , but he did part with thousands originally ( as reported in the news)

but he didn't report it because he didn't want to be found out for the former

Sure, and he didn’t block the guy because…?

RedToothBrush · 31/07/2024 14:13

LostTheMarble · 31/07/2024 14:10

It’s a slippery slope of excuses that convinces themselves that they’re not actually doing wrong. And too many people back them up. The whole ‘16 is the legal age of consent’ and ‘and 18 year old is an adult that can make their own choices’ means that the bar is set exceptionally low. It gets these men thinking if 16 is ok, why not 15, 14, there’s little difference in their minds. I’m fully in favour of staggering the age of consent so adult men do not have the right to sexual contact with any teenager.

But there are situations where consent doesn't apply at 16... Again something everyone should be aware of. In certain situations where a 16 to 18 year old is still problematic.

Iloveyoubut · 31/07/2024 14:14

CantDealwithChristmas · 31/07/2024 13:43

But then what do you expect from someone who didn't report images he knew to be illegal and kept in touch with the person who sent them.

OK so this is a genuine question which I have and asking in good faith, I do not feel any sympathy with Huw Edwards so please don't flame me people...

but...

I just read online that he recieved underage pics unsolicited and asked the sender not to send him any more underage pics. So in law, how can he be guilty if he didn't solicit the pics?

Because surely anyone who wanted to destroy the reputation of anyone could get them in trouble simply by sending them pics they hadn't asked for?

I’m confused by this too.

RayonSunrise · 31/07/2024 14:14

Lilysgoneshopping · 31/07/2024 11:49

@RayonSunrise your post seems to suggest you are sympathising with a man who views images of children being abused.
Jimmy Savile he may not be, but that doesn't absolve him of any responsibility.
Child abuse is child abuse, period

I can assure you I am doing a lot more to stop people who deal in CSA than the likes of you.

EsmaCannonball · 31/07/2024 14:15

Who do you think the BBC should get in to dub over the commentary on all those royal weddings, funerals and coronations? I vote for Brian Blessed.

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 31/07/2024 14:16

Iloveyoubut · 31/07/2024 14:14

I’m confused by this too.

You can’t always control what you receive but you can control what you do about it. He should have gone straight to the police and reported a crime and followed their advice.

Janiie · 31/07/2024 14:17

EilonwyWithRedGoldHair · 31/07/2024 14:09

A long time ago the organisation I work for had a radio advert to promote something for carers. We were advised that while we could have one of us do the voiceover they strongly recommended we use a professional - and they were right, it made a huge difference. Being able to speak well in the way needed is absolutely a skill. A newsreader shouldn't be displaying their personality, they are there to deliver the news, not their opinion or feelings on it.

Huw Edwards was a good news reader. Also a terrible human being.

No, I didn't mean display personality whilst reading the news I meant generally even if appearing on other shows he was always po faced nice voiced Edwards. Nothing to write home about, just didn't justify his massive salary in the slightest.

LostTheMarble · 31/07/2024 14:21

RedToothBrush · 31/07/2024 14:13

But there are situations where consent doesn't apply at 16... Again something everyone should be aware of. In certain situations where a 16 to 18 year old is still problematic.

I absolutely agree but again, many people don’t. When the story broke and the young man in question was evidently vulnerable, many people were still saying it was their right to engage with HE in a sexual transaction and he himself had done no wrong. People will excuse it to the nth degree if it comes down to a grey area.

RedToothBrush · 31/07/2024 14:21

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 31/07/2024 14:16

You can’t always control what you receive but you can control what you do about it. He should have gone straight to the police and reported a crime and followed their advice.

This.

You can report a crime. You aren't going to be charged with 'making' the images if you report immediately in the interests of child protection.

Its not in the public interest to prosecute in these circumstances, because the result would be that people wouldn't report abuse out of fear of being prosecuted.

If you don't report you also put yourself in a vulnerable position because you leave yourself open to blackmail. Which can lead to being forced into further criminal behaviour. So the police don't want to make this potential problem worse.

OliveTheaBough · 31/07/2024 14:21

Aquarius1234 · 31/07/2024 09:50

To think he shouldn't have been paid in full while off long term. As its more like being self employed.
But mainly cos it was 475k upwards of our TV licence money!
Another example is when a famous radio presenter s decide to go off for an extended break to film another show or something. Surely they don't get normal pay when they have extra weeks off not on air!!

I disagree with you OP - the BBc will have honoured whatever clauses were in his contract; I’d expect my employer to do the same.

CantDealwithChristmas · 31/07/2024 14:23

Another2Cats · 31/07/2024 13:59

"So in law, how can he be guilty if he didn't solicit the pics?"

That's because this offence is a "strict liability" offence. What this means is that you don't have to have any criminal intent. Simply being in possession is enough.

It's like with drugs, simply being in possession of controlled drugs is an offence but the more serious offence of something like "intent to supply" needs to show an intention to actually supply.

Thank you. It makes a lot of sense once I think about it like that. For example, if someone gave me a kilo bag of cocaine that I hadn't asked for, I should (and obvs would) just call the police about it. Not stash it away in my garage and ask the person to just try not to bring me any more.

Soroe · 31/07/2024 14:25

Let’s hope he gets an appropriate sentence. One man in my town only got a suspended sentence for 50,000 images so I don’t think it will be more than sex offenders register, community order and some program or other to rehabilitate him!

Is he still married? Surely his wife isn’t staying with him.

the80sweregreat · 31/07/2024 14:26

His separated from his wife and getting divorced. ( daily mail this morning)

Soroe · 31/07/2024 14:30

the80sweregreat · 31/07/2024 14:26

His separated from his wife and getting divorced. ( daily mail this morning)

Good on her.

SerenityNowInsanityLater · 31/07/2024 14:30

“Why don't these people seek help before they get themselves in deep trouble?”

Because nice people with a moral compass seek help, not abusers who are all sociopaths (as opposed to the falsehood that all sociopaths are harmful abusers).
Abusers groom and deceive to get what they want. Remorse is often missing or faked. Huw Edwards would have been enjoying himself far too much to care about the pain his actions have caused.
And that asshole made an effort for the cameras, didn’t he? He looks far from crushed. He’s angry. He’s pissed.

It is absolutely true that some people do seek help. Those people have a moral compass and usually haven’t inflicted harm on anyone but they’re aware that they might. But they are so rare.
There’s a reason rehabilitation programmes fail. It would be so interesting to hear Huw Edwards read from the common predator’s script: “He liked it/he never complained to me that he felt exploited/I loved him and he knew this.”

People like him are ‘right’. The world is wrong. And he won’t feel sorry. He’ll be angry. Very angry that he’s been wronged.
My daughter’s abuser repeatedly complained that his punishment is disproportionate to the crime; 5 years (that we know of) of sexual abuse of a minor. Two and a half years served in prison. And his victim will never get her childhood back. The abuse will show up lifelong in various ways. Therapy. Forever.
I’ve had a fair time of it trying to convince my daughter that having a vagina is not a gateway to receiving male violence. She has had to learn to value being female instead of hating it. She’s still learning.

Her abuser will live in his cottage with his dogs in the countryside. He’ll be angry at the injustice of it all. He’ll have been hard done by, in his view. He’ll never stop to consider what the destruction of a child’s blueprint looks like, feels like.
Oh the almighty will of the penis (breathtaking, right? One dick. One life. Destroyed. Not the abuser’s)!

He read from the predator’s script: “She never complained!”
He was our local pillar of society. And if pillars of society think they don’t need help (believe me, he doesn’t think he needs any help. He just slipped on a banana peel and happened to land on his own child… like, ‘accidents happen’), it’s hard to have faith that people who should access these programmes will do so.

Nobodyknowsitall5 · 31/07/2024 14:30

The media have reported that he was sent the images, he didn't asked for them and told the dirty perv to not send him illegals. He deleted the images. He is guilty of the offence simply because the images had at one point been on his phone. I'm not standing up for him here but trying to understand it all.

Scorchio84 · 31/07/2024 14:31

@Naunet yep & he kept all the images too..

SwordToFlamethrower · 31/07/2024 14:31

People in high profile positions, and positions of trust should have way harsher sentences. Who can we trust if we can't trust these people????

EsmaCannonball · 31/07/2024 14:35

A man who punched a woman and used a knife to slash her in the face, stomach and chest after she rejected his sexual advances was handed a suspended sentence yesterday. The judge apparently mentioned delays in the court case and lack of prison places as part of his decision not to hand down a custodial sentence. I would be surprised if Huw is going to jail.

It absolutely infuriates me that women go to prison for non-payment of TV licence or council tax fines but because men are such numerous, prolific and serious offenders it actually improves their odds of avoiding incarceration. It's a completely upside-down system.

Arraminta · 31/07/2024 14:35

HE peddling out a half hearted 'Oh please don't send me anything illegal' is neither here nor there. So he knew his supplier had access to vile images of the CSA of little children but carried on this perverted correspondence ANYWAY. He didn't do a single thing to assist the little children he knew we're being raped. He didn't contact the police. He didn't contact any of his peers in the media. He didn't care what was happening to those children. He just cared about having a regular supply of disgusting images of teenage youths. Nice.

Scorchio84 · 31/07/2024 14:35

Soroe · 31/07/2024 14:30

Good on her.

Yeah but why the delay? In fairness I'm not judging her, she was most likely blindsided & who knows what he said to her.. still yeah good for her, what a nightmare he's put his family through

Lampslights · 31/07/2024 14:36

Nobodyknowsitall5 · 31/07/2024 14:30

The media have reported that he was sent the images, he didn't asked for them and told the dirty perv to not send him illegals. He deleted the images. He is guilty of the offence simply because the images had at one point been on his phone. I'm not standing up for him here but trying to understand it all.

This is just such a mitigating statement, he was receiving the images from a paedophile then discussing them after, he only said stop sending when it was the 7 year old being raped. And only for kids that young.

why would anyone want to try to downplay his part on it. A super fan. A paedo sympathiser, or simply ignorant on what occurred?

EsmaCannonball · 31/07/2024 14:38

Was there verifiable evidence that he asked the sender not to send any more child abuse images or was that just a claim?