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To be really freaked out about seeing someone that wasn’t there??

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freakedoutseeingthings · 30/07/2024 21:18

My partners mum, step-dad, brother and 2 nieces are on holiday at the seaside so to we took our little one for the a day trip to have a beach day with his cousins today.

As we were driving into where they are staying and my partner was packing I said to him ‘I didn’t know your whole family was here’ when I saw his grandma standing next to his mum. He must have assumed that I was talking about his stepdad as he didn’t respond to it in a weird way/ask what I meant.

Then when we were inside I asked where his grandma had gone and where she was sleeping as they only have 2 bedrooms. Well it turns out that she isn’t there and is at home and I couldn’t have seen her because she’s not there??

What on earth happened?? What/who did I see?? Am I crazy now? 🙈

OP posts:
CurlewKate · 01/08/2024 20:21

@Pocketfullofdogtreats "He thinks a lot of scientists are closed - minded and only interested in proving their own hypotheses. He's seen them ignore outliers"

Yep. Same applies to believers in the paranormal!

Itsjustmyusername · 01/08/2024 20:24

Very glad to hear that Grandma is ok and yes, I think you are now mad 😆

Sakuem · 01/08/2024 20:33

freakedoutseeingthings · 31/07/2024 15:36

He called her and she answered so she’s alive and we’re going to visit her tomorrow. I still feel a bit weird though 🫣

That's a relief.
I sometimes think I see a figure and it turns out to be something like a motorbike leaning against a lampost or something, but from a certain angle looks like a person standing there, but that's because of my eyesight, so my mind fills in the blanks when I see the shape of something a similar height and shape as something else 😅
How long did you see her for and how close up?
Was it in a public area, could it possibly have been another lady standing nearby who resembled your partner's grandmother?
I'm so glad that she is alright though.
xx

BloodyHellKenAgain · 01/08/2024 20:37

squidgybits · 01/08/2024 18:27

How very rude

To be fair if I started seeing people who weren't actually there I'd be worried I was having some sort of mental breakdown.

Gemma2003 · 01/08/2024 21:02

MaggieFS · 30/07/2024 22:57

Boring answer in simple terms... it uses too much valuable energy to pay attention, so our brain constantly makes things up based on learned norms.

Well yes, that is one explanation. It does not however eliminate the possibility of other explanations. And let's face it - it's kind of boring!

OiFatArse · 01/08/2024 21:14

StrikeItMucky · 01/08/2024 18:36

@OiFatArse Lollll
That's a blast from the past 🤣🤣

I couldn't help myself 😂😂 all the "check on granny NOW" 😂🤦🤦

DownUnder14 · 01/08/2024 22:21

Richard1985 · 30/07/2024 23:26

Are you suggesting the OP may be ill?

Surely it’s far more reasonable to presume that Granny died earlier in the day and her ghost fancied a quick trip to the seaside before heading up to the pearly gates

i think I just died reading this 🤣

Bluebird987 · 01/08/2024 22:28

If you’re going die it would be a total waste to not have some fun on the way to your final destination

Bluebird987 · 01/08/2024 22:29

It would also be fun to invite someone on holiday and hide your granny in the spare room to just make a fleeting head fuck visit, see how crazy you can make your guest over the course of a day

Bluebird987 · 01/08/2024 22:30

Alternatively you just thought you saw her when she was in fact at home doing granny things. She’s not dead

Bluebird987 · 01/08/2024 22:31

You probably know she’s not dead by now anyway- hopefully, as most people on this thread think she’s dead and made a little stop along the way to heaven

llizzie · 01/08/2024 22:47

freakedoutseeingthings · 30/07/2024 21:18

My partners mum, step-dad, brother and 2 nieces are on holiday at the seaside so to we took our little one for the a day trip to have a beach day with his cousins today.

As we were driving into where they are staying and my partner was packing I said to him ‘I didn’t know your whole family was here’ when I saw his grandma standing next to his mum. He must have assumed that I was talking about his stepdad as he didn’t respond to it in a weird way/ask what I meant.

Then when we were inside I asked where his grandma had gone and where she was sleeping as they only have 2 bedrooms. Well it turns out that she isn’t there and is at home and I couldn’t have seen her because she’s not there??

What on earth happened?? What/who did I see?? Am I crazy now? 🙈

It is possible that there is some family resemblance that his mum and grandma look so alike that seeing the one made you think of the other?

llizzie · 01/08/2024 22:52

freakedoutseeingthings · 30/07/2024 21:18

My partners mum, step-dad, brother and 2 nieces are on holiday at the seaside so to we took our little one for the a day trip to have a beach day with his cousins today.

As we were driving into where they are staying and my partner was packing I said to him ‘I didn’t know your whole family was here’ when I saw his grandma standing next to his mum. He must have assumed that I was talking about his stepdad as he didn’t respond to it in a weird way/ask what I meant.

Then when we were inside I asked where his grandma had gone and where she was sleeping as they only have 2 bedrooms. Well it turns out that she isn’t there and is at home and I couldn’t have seen her because she’s not there??

What on earth happened?? What/who did I see?? Am I crazy now? 🙈

Another thought: have you had a health check lately? I ask, because I have just remembered when my son's father in law had a stroke. He was not particularly old then. It affected his vision. He could not see properly, except that visions from the past came up in front of him, and there would come up in front of him things, like a hole in the ground, or animals.

I heard on a radio programme one time about stroke victims whose sight was affected to the point where they only saw HALF of something. If a plate of food was put in front of them, they ate exactly half of the food.

TheFormidableMrsC · 01/08/2024 23:03

A boss I had years ago had a weird experience like this. I remember him being really disturbed because a family member had knocked on the window next to the front door and waved at him so he went to the door to let her in. There was nobody there. The phone started ringing and it was somebody to inform him that the person he'd just seen at his window had died.

Richard1985 · 01/08/2024 23:12

Bluebird987 · 01/08/2024 22:29

It would also be fun to invite someone on holiday and hide your granny in the spare room to just make a fleeting head fuck visit, see how crazy you can make your guest over the course of a day

Literally the plot to the TV series ‘The Deceived’

Marseillaise · 01/08/2024 23:21

freakedoutseeingthings · 31/07/2024 15:36

He called her and she answered so she’s alive and we’re going to visit her tomorrow. I still feel a bit weird though 🫣

Colour me not in the least surprised.

Marseillaise · 01/08/2024 23:27

VeryHappyBunny · 31/07/2024 10:51

And not everything will.

According to science I should be dead, but I am very much alive and the doctors and specialists couldn't explain why.

But there is undoubtedly a scientific reason why that is the case. The fact that current medical science could not explain it doesn't mean that it was some sort of totally inexplicable miracle.

Marseillaise · 01/08/2024 23:39

VeryHappyBunny · 31/07/2024 11:19

We can put a man on the moon, or can we? but we can't cure the common cold. Science does not have all the answers.

Why do you assume science will never develop beyond its current stage? In the 18th century we had no way of preventing smallpox. Science didn't have that answer. Now, smallpox has been eradicated.

There have been so many prizes on offer over decades for proving that the paranormal is real. No-one's managed it. Maybe it's time to accept that woo is woo and nothing more?

TeaGinandFags · 02/08/2024 00:04

Can Granny astrally project herself? Mebbe she was feeling left out.

You may well be bonkers, if do join the club. It has many, many members. (I'm the president.)

Or some other boring reason.

AmIEnough · 02/08/2024 06:49

elm26 · 30/07/2024 21:26

Erm has anyone called his grandma and checked she's okay?!

Don't mean to freak you out but my friend saw her Dad in her living room as she walked in from work which wasn't a shock as he'd been decorating, she walked past the living room door, saw him and carried on to the kitchen to put her bag down and shouted "hi dad do you want a cuppa?" No reply and she went to see him and he wasn't there. She called his mobile no answer, he'd actually had a heart attack and collapsed and died at his house in the morning.

My God! This is awful and so weird!!

AmIEnough · 02/08/2024 06:51

gamerchick · 30/07/2024 22:08

Sort of. When you think of someone and you get a call from them moments later type of stuff.

I do this all the time, and I mean all the time! Does it mean I’m a witch or is there some other explanation?

CurlewKate · 02/08/2024 07:25

@AmIEnough
"do this all the time, and I mean all the time! Does it mean I’m a witch or is there some other explanation?"

No. It means we think about the people we know and love a lot, and sometimes a thought coincides with a phone call. We just don't notice all the times the phone doesn't ring.

BernardBlacksBreakfastWine · 02/08/2024 08:05

Marseillaise · 01/08/2024 23:27

But there is undoubtedly a scientific reason why that is the case. The fact that current medical science could not explain it doesn't mean that it was some sort of totally inexplicable miracle.

Yes. There are many things that we accept and understand today would have been regarded by those in the past as a ‘miracle’ - things like telephones for example; if you said to some in the Middle Ages that there was potentially a way to talk to someone thousands of miles away, they’d be shocked, incredulous etc.

I know it’s not a perfect comparison, but it shows how closed we naturally are to things that don’t make sense in our world view.

Now, with all our modern understanding, we’ve effectively shut down different avenues of possibility; we’re different from those medieval people in more ways than one: a) we know loads more and b) as a society, we know so much that we are more naturally closed off to the possibility that there are any really big, game/changing things still to learn.

I know people have, quite rightly, said that scientists are always looking to expand their knowledge and will re-write the rules accordingly. I think that’s true - and I actually think the scientists doing this sort of research (into the nature of consciousness, NDE etc) are very open- minded about it, by their very nature. But not so the general public or, if I may say, your average MN poster, who delights in sneering at any sort of ‘out there’ theories.

I know @Marseillaise has mentioned that people have repeatedly failed to prove the existence of the paranormal despite the offer of prize money etc. My response here would be - how could you possibly record/measure/prove the experiences on here? Many people have reported ‘seeing’ a loved one at what turns out to be the moment of their passing. You may not believe this - of course. But if you wanted proof - how could you possibly obtain it? The moment is unexpected and fleeting. The same is true for most so-called paranormal experiences. I’m not saying they’re all real; I’m just saying how would you verify them? Genuine question.

BikesIHaveLost · 02/08/2024 08:56

BernardBlacksBreakfastWine · 02/08/2024 08:05

Yes. There are many things that we accept and understand today would have been regarded by those in the past as a ‘miracle’ - things like telephones for example; if you said to some in the Middle Ages that there was potentially a way to talk to someone thousands of miles away, they’d be shocked, incredulous etc.

I know it’s not a perfect comparison, but it shows how closed we naturally are to things that don’t make sense in our world view.

Now, with all our modern understanding, we’ve effectively shut down different avenues of possibility; we’re different from those medieval people in more ways than one: a) we know loads more and b) as a society, we know so much that we are more naturally closed off to the possibility that there are any really big, game/changing things still to learn.

I know people have, quite rightly, said that scientists are always looking to expand their knowledge and will re-write the rules accordingly. I think that’s true - and I actually think the scientists doing this sort of research (into the nature of consciousness, NDE etc) are very open- minded about it, by their very nature. But not so the general public or, if I may say, your average MN poster, who delights in sneering at any sort of ‘out there’ theories.

I know @Marseillaise has mentioned that people have repeatedly failed to prove the existence of the paranormal despite the offer of prize money etc. My response here would be - how could you possibly record/measure/prove the experiences on here? Many people have reported ‘seeing’ a loved one at what turns out to be the moment of their passing. You may not believe this - of course. But if you wanted proof - how could you possibly obtain it? The moment is unexpected and fleeting. The same is true for most so-called paranormal experiences. I’m not saying they’re all real; I’m just saying how would you verify them? Genuine question.

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It shows precisely the reverse of what you appear to think. Science has always been exploratory, theoretical, open-minded. Thinkers theorised things were possible sometimes centuries ahead of the tech being developed that would put that theory into practice (Leonardo da Vinci the most obvious example).

People under the influence of a Middle Ages worldview were required to believe in the ‘impossible’ on a regular basis — the virgin birth, the resurrection etc. If you told them there was a way to speak to someone thousands of miles away, they would accept it as a supernatural capacity, whether divine or demonically inspired, because their circumstances had a space for such things.

Whereas more than 150 years of psychical research has failed to show up any evidence to suggest any basis for ‘ghosts’, ‘psychics’, precognition etc that can’t be accounted for by chance, confirmation bias, superstition, human error, wishful thinking, mendacity, cold-reading etc.

The UK has a lot of world-class universities. Don’t you think it’s significant that the only one with a Parapsychology unit is Edinburgh, after his executors spent years trying to find a British university that would set one up, after Arthur Koestler left his fortune to found one? Because it’s not credible science.

Riverswims · 02/08/2024 08:57

CurlewKate · 31/07/2024 10:44

@VeryHappyBunny "Just because you can't or don't believe or understand something doesn't mean it didn't happen. Not everything can be explained in a scientific way."
This paragraph only needs a tiny edit to make it correct.
"Not everything has been explained in a scientific way yet"
There-fixed it for you.

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