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To not want to see t*ts on the beach??!

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TittiesOutPutThemBack · 30/07/2024 12:34

Just that really!

on holiday at the mo and I cant even count the number of times I have seen topless women sunbathing at the beach… next to kids!…on non-nudist beach!

I really don’t want to see titties out in the middle of the day

on top of that I don’t fancy my teenage boys or even my DH having a look at them either

its obvious they’re coming from certain European countries ! Do they have no sense of what’s right or wrong ?

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LiterallyOnFire · 30/07/2024 17:55

SeeSeeRider · 30/07/2024 17:35

Dear OP, why can't you write the word tits in full? Is it 1824, 1924, or 2024?

What's hilarious is she types the longer, more wince-inducing form in full but asterisks tits.

Redgreenfroggy · 30/07/2024 17:56

I went topless on the beach for the first time this year and found it very liberating. Did I care if I offended someone- No.
dis I have an issue with my DH being around other women with their boobs out- No
if you don’t like it go to countries where it is not allowed

ElleintheWoods · 30/07/2024 17:56

cupcaske123 · 30/07/2024 15:56

@ElleintheWoods

Single sex schools aren't by any means mainstream in the UK. Only 12% of government funded schools are single sex.

Yes, girls and boys have a tendency to play separately but not always. And it's certainly common for women to have female friends but many women also have male friends.

MN isn't indicative of all British people and plenty of married women have male friends and vice versa. You also have to remember that women may have male colleagues as well that they'll socialise with.

Definitely re the date attitude unless you're already friends. It's very unusual to invite a strange man to your house to do DIY and I can imagine he thought it was a ruse

You can't compare the UK to the US we have a very different culture. If you read the thread you'll see that the absolute majority think the OP is nuts. Although I'd say we're more upright about nudity than Scandinavia.

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I'm not saying we are fundamentally culturally different at all, but these are some of the differences I've experienced in my everyday life.

Regarding single sex education, 12% is a lot in Europe, apparently: https://world-education-blog.org/2021/03/29/in-which-countries-do-children-attend-single-sex-schools/ I'm not sure if single sex public schools even exist in Denmark, I think a few private religious ones might - I have been away a long time now.

Anyway, i think this article makes the points I am trying to make, but better: https://inews.co.uk/inews-lifestyle/raising-kids-denmark-learned-about-sex-consent-aged-six-3057825

A quote:
There’s a more open approach to the body and nudity, too. Danish swimming pools all require a nude full-body soaping in a public shower room, divided by gender, before entry. There are even helpful illustrated posters remind everyone to wash their genitals before swimming so that pools can use fewer harsh chemicals.

“Internationals are often surprised by how relaxed we are,” says my Swedish friend Maria, “but there’s nothing sexual about it: they’re just bodies”. The Nordic attitude to nudity has been profound for this former Catholic schoolgirl raised in the UK. I was in my thirties when I moved to Denmark, which means I’d been knocking around for three whole decades before I saw the full spectrum of women’s bodies in their natural form.

Not film stars in carefully choreographed sex scenes, or an unvarying parade of smoking-hot Nordic goddesses. I mean real bodies, naked. Tummies that pucker, C-section scars, breasts that swing, bottoms that dimple and pubic hair that grows wherever it pleases, gloriously un-coiffed. As a result of this exposure to a whole range of real bodies, I began to accept my own a little more. And so children grow up less body conscious too.

A survey conducted by the University of Zürich showed that Danes are the most shameless people in the world. A mere 1.62 per cent of Danes suffer from gelotophobia – fear of ridicule – the lowest proportion of the population in any country surveyed. In the UK, we have the highest number of people with the phobia.

I would suggest the OP puts Denmark firmly onto the list of countries not to visit! But I assume it's already on it.

In which countries do children attend single-sex schools? - World Education Blog

🔊 Listen to this blog While enrolment rates disaggregated by sex might be easy to find, comparative cross-country data on how many children are in single-sex schools are scarce. As another International Women’s Day passes us by, it seems fitting to al...

https://world-education-blog.org/2021/03/29/in-which-countries-do-children-attend-single-sex-schools

pinkhooves · 30/07/2024 18:03

Oh gosh the "cool wife" club are really in full force.

It's disgusting, on holiday I've had women in thongs only just walking back and forward in front of me, but god help when I was breastfeeding the dirty looks I got from them!

Most all Eastern European. My mum is from Russia so I know the mentality.

Same as men with their dicks out walking past my 6 year old daughter. It's absolutely shameless.

It's actually not needed and unhealthy!

And also, these women with their tits hanging out "because they can" are just aligning themselves with what men want, catering to them as men intended.

LemonPeonies · 30/07/2024 18:03

ThreeTescoBags · 30/07/2024 14:31

I think she's concerned it might have got his blood up and he's going to ask to do 'it' this evening and with the lights on. I mean really, they've already done it once this year, the man's obsessed!!

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🤣🤣🤣 love it

Ecstaticmotion · 30/07/2024 18:04

I said that and I’m not straight. Attraction isn’t purely to a body part, otherwise every hetero woman would fancy their dad! lol think it thru.

Ecstaticmotion · 30/07/2024 18:08

The answers on this thread are so shocking.

It’s “cool wife” to be comfortable with non-sexual nudity?? Do you realise entire cultures are comfortable with it? Do you realise culture is constructed and relative, not some fact of nature? I am fine with women (or men) wearing barely anything around my partner at a beach. Obv I would not be fine if my partner then ogled those nude people. Can you not make the distinction?!

why on earth are you disgusted by small clothing on a beach? Bodies are natural. They are not disgusting. Healthily adapted people ought to be capable of seeing nudity without having a sexual reaction. If you disagree, are you saying you, yourself, get turned on by seeing any body part of the sexes to which you’re attracted?!

LaughingCat · 30/07/2024 18:16

pinkhooves · 30/07/2024 18:03

Oh gosh the "cool wife" club are really in full force.

It's disgusting, on holiday I've had women in thongs only just walking back and forward in front of me, but god help when I was breastfeeding the dirty looks I got from them!

Most all Eastern European. My mum is from Russia so I know the mentality.

Same as men with their dicks out walking past my 6 year old daughter. It's absolutely shameless.

It's actually not needed and unhealthy!

And also, these women with their tits hanging out "because they can" are just aligning themselves with what men want, catering to them as men intended.

Season 9 Episode 25 GIF by The Simpsons

Haaaaaa! Oh, oh…thank you, @pinkhooves, I needed the giggle today. Women in thongs? Perish the very thought!

Love how you somehow equated being comfortable in your own skin with being anti-feminist. Rofl.

CaptainCrieff · 30/07/2024 18:19

pinkhooves · 30/07/2024 18:03

Oh gosh the "cool wife" club are really in full force.

It's disgusting, on holiday I've had women in thongs only just walking back and forward in front of me, but god help when I was breastfeeding the dirty looks I got from them!

Most all Eastern European. My mum is from Russia so I know the mentality.

Same as men with their dicks out walking past my 6 year old daughter. It's absolutely shameless.

It's actually not needed and unhealthy!

And also, these women with their tits hanging out "because they can" are just aligning themselves with what men want, catering to them as men intended.

It goes in waves/fashions and the majority of European women who prefer to go topless are older and a lot of them also bigger, I think it’s lovely they don’t have hang ups that their breasts should be put away when they lose their perkiness.

although I have a feeling these women are less likely to bother people like the OP as they seem to only find “sexy” boobs threatening and therefore tacky…

PurpleDiva22 · 30/07/2024 18:23

@pinkhooves how is a woman going topless the same as a man with his dick out? Think you need some biology lessons!

Beljin · 30/07/2024 18:28

LondonFox · 30/07/2024 17:25

Go to Dubai or some other country with stricter dress code if you are offended by female breasts on a beach.
And to your other posts - only reasons women don't free them in the office are:
A) for some of us they don't look as we would like on a heat
B) I cannot stress this enogh - peoole would go nuts about the fucking pair of tits like they were not almost all fed from them. Just like you are.

Oh please. A PP made the point, someone touches you on your arm without asking isn't a crime, whereas someone touching you on your breast is. Stop pretending you see no difference between boobs and other non-sexual body parts.

RampantIvy · 30/07/2024 18:28

WhenILookDeepInYourEyesISwearICanSeeYourSoul · 30/07/2024 12:35

Are there any topless men on this beach? Or is it just women you object to?

You know perfectly well that there is a whole lot of difference in the way men view topless women as opposed to the way women view topless men.

It is disingenuous to think otherwise.

Personally, I couldn't care less who wears what on a beach. TBH on the last few beach holidays I have been on I haven't seen any topless women anyway.

Yougotwhatstuckwhere · 30/07/2024 18:29

I can see what happened here.
You didn't put the right postage on the letter you sent to the person in charge of the beaches, therefore they weren't aware of your (unreasonable) demand that NO WOMAN SHOULD SHOW A NIPPLE BECAUSE IT OFFENDS THEE.
Did I get it right?

Usercyzabc · 30/07/2024 18:29

CaptainCrieff · 30/07/2024 18:19

It goes in waves/fashions and the majority of European women who prefer to go topless are older and a lot of them also bigger, I think it’s lovely they don’t have hang ups that their breasts should be put away when they lose their perkiness.

although I have a feeling these women are less likely to bother people like the OP as they seem to only find “sexy” boobs threatening and therefore tacky…

@CaptainCrieff yes, agree, I bet they won’t be calling women in Italy or France for example who are in the 70s and beyond as their husbands will be less likely to be fawning over them and on the beach topless or shameful as they won’t feel threatened. Are the Scandis and Germans revolting too for their nakedness I wonder.

The outrage directed to this ‘cultural practice’ of countries where this has been the norm for eons and nobody bats an eye lid because it’s so normal nobody pays any attention except for the ogling tourists, is bizarre. I guess when people don’t travel this is what happens when they do 😂the culture shock is too much. Hilarious actually.

RampantIvy · 30/07/2024 18:31

As an aside, am I right in thinking that going topless is less popular these days?

I used to see it more in the 80s, but very rarely see it these days.

Waterboatlass · 30/07/2024 18:35

Dylanesque · 30/07/2024 16:46

Litter lout! I think they look much better when attached to a body

🤣🤣

LaeralSilverhand · 30/07/2024 18:36

ClickClack300 · 30/07/2024 16:54

It’s freedom of choice but it’s infringement of others choice to do it in a family friendly beach. If someone is desperate to get them out then fine, but again, there is a time and a place.

And in countries where it is culturally acceptable to do so, that time and place is on the beach.

The xenophobia and cultural imperialism on this thread is extraordinary - are people really this lacking in self-awareness?

Seaglassandchampagne · 30/07/2024 18:37

pinkhooves · 30/07/2024 18:03

Oh gosh the "cool wife" club are really in full force.

It's disgusting, on holiday I've had women in thongs only just walking back and forward in front of me, but god help when I was breastfeeding the dirty looks I got from them!

Most all Eastern European. My mum is from Russia so I know the mentality.

Same as men with their dicks out walking past my 6 year old daughter. It's absolutely shameless.

It's actually not needed and unhealthy!

And also, these women with their tits hanging out "because they can" are just aligning themselves with what men want, catering to them as men intended.

It’s so sad when you see posters who simply cannot conceive that a woman would do something with her own body for herself and not for the gratification of men. It is a stark illustration of how alienated they are from their own bodies.

The last time I was on a beach in France I saw women aged from 18 to 80 going topless, in every shape and size and colour. I guarantee that an 80 year old woman enjoying the feel of the sun on her skin is not secretly trying to titillate men, and if you can accept that then you must also accept that the same is true for women of all ages.

My attitude has nothing to do with being a ‘cool wife’. My husband isn’t a disgusting letch who ogles topless women. I’m not pretending to be cool with seeing breasts because I think it will make him pick me. He already chose me, fat and pale-skinned and imperfect as I am.

Usercyzabc · 30/07/2024 18:38

Seaglassandchampagne · 30/07/2024 18:37

It’s so sad when you see posters who simply cannot conceive that a woman would do something with her own body for herself and not for the gratification of men. It is a stark illustration of how alienated they are from their own bodies.

The last time I was on a beach in France I saw women aged from 18 to 80 going topless, in every shape and size and colour. I guarantee that an 80 year old woman enjoying the feel of the sun on her skin is not secretly trying to titillate men, and if you can accept that then you must also accept that the same is true for women of all ages.

My attitude has nothing to do with being a ‘cool wife’. My husband isn’t a disgusting letch who ogles topless women. I’m not pretending to be cool with seeing breasts because I think it will make him pick me. He already chose me, fat and pale-skinned and imperfect as I am.

@Seaglassandchampagne you said what I tried very badly to 👏

Seaglassandchampagne · 30/07/2024 18:40

Beljin · 30/07/2024 18:28

Oh please. A PP made the point, someone touches you on your arm without asking isn't a crime, whereas someone touching you on your breast is. Stop pretending you see no difference between boobs and other non-sexual body parts.

Is this actually true?

Someone caressing your arm suggestively might well be found guilty of sexual harassment. Someone who bumps into your boob in a crowded lift wouldn’t be. It’s the nature of the touch that makes the difference, not the body part.

StarlightLady · 30/07/2024 18:41

RampantIvy · 30/07/2024 18:28

You know perfectly well that there is a whole lot of difference in the way men view topless women as opposed to the way women view topless men.

It is disingenuous to think otherwise.

Personally, I couldn't care less who wears what on a beach. TBH on the last few beach holidays I have been on I haven't seen any topless women anyway.

There is a difference between a topless man and a topless woman because a rule making man has told us so!

We are taught our bodies are shameful because they are a different shape. We cause a risk that men may not be able to control themselves! And seemingly it’s all the fault of women. OP had adhered to their rules sadly.

RedPoster · 30/07/2024 18:43

Seaglassandchampagne · 30/07/2024 18:37

It’s so sad when you see posters who simply cannot conceive that a woman would do something with her own body for herself and not for the gratification of men. It is a stark illustration of how alienated they are from their own bodies.

The last time I was on a beach in France I saw women aged from 18 to 80 going topless, in every shape and size and colour. I guarantee that an 80 year old woman enjoying the feel of the sun on her skin is not secretly trying to titillate men, and if you can accept that then you must also accept that the same is true for women of all ages.

My attitude has nothing to do with being a ‘cool wife’. My husband isn’t a disgusting letch who ogles topless women. I’m not pretending to be cool with seeing breasts because I think it will make him pick me. He already chose me, fat and pale-skinned and imperfect as I am.

It’s so frustrating that if you have a different view than some women they automatically are label you as a “cool wife”. Very few people have said this is about the pleasure of men, it’s about the freedom of women.

Plus that poster you referred to mentioned that topless women have their ‘tits hanging out’ which says a lot about her views on women to be honest.

Seaglassandchampagne · 30/07/2024 18:43

Usercyzabc · 30/07/2024 18:38

@Seaglassandchampagne you said what I tried very badly to 👏

I don’t think you said it badly at all!

ByKindOpalPoet · 30/07/2024 18:43

pinkhooves · 30/07/2024 18:03

Oh gosh the "cool wife" club are really in full force.

It's disgusting, on holiday I've had women in thongs only just walking back and forward in front of me, but god help when I was breastfeeding the dirty looks I got from them!

Most all Eastern European. My mum is from Russia so I know the mentality.

Same as men with their dicks out walking past my 6 year old daughter. It's absolutely shameless.

It's actually not needed and unhealthy!

And also, these women with their tits hanging out "because they can" are just aligning themselves with what men want, catering to them as men intended.

’cool wife’ what are you 12? This attitude is what’s causing the ‘pick me’ comments amongst teenage girls and causing girls to be ashamed of liking football etc in case they are accused of doing it in order to cater to men/boys

swimlyn · 30/07/2024 18:43

ClickClack300 · 30/07/2024 16:54

It’s freedom of choice but it’s infringement of others choice to do it in a family friendly beach. If someone is desperate to get them out then fine, but again, there is a time and a place.

“there is a time and a place…”

So, in summary you want to know nationality (and culture) and define that there is a time and a place. I guess passport control at beach entrances would satisfy you? Do tell.

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