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Just Stop Oil are my heroes!

349 replies

incognit · 27/07/2024 21:23

I have changed my name for this, but there is so much negativity and hate towards JSO, Insulate Britain, and ER on these boards, that I really want to risk putting my head above the parapet and saying "WOOOHOO! I AM RIGHT BEHIND YOU!!"

These are wonderful people sacrificing their own liberty and careers to bring attention to their cause - and it really works! There have been huge benefits, so many companies are aware of them, and taking steps to avoid being in the firing line by upping their investments in environmental mitigations.

And the huge amount of attention that insulation got- it is now high up on so many agendas! Why did it take protesters gluing themselves to the road to do it? It should have happened anyway, but it didn't. People had to make that sacrifice, but themselves in danger, lose jobs, careers, liberty, etc, to get results.

People moan about having their days disrupted, etc by JSO, without caring how much their days are going to be disrupted by the climate crisis running out of control.

I have cancer. I couldn't get to a chemo appointment once because of JSO. I 100% support their actions. I think their cause is so much bigger than one person. They are acting to protect millions.

No doubt people will come here and bitch and moan and I don't care really, at least anyone from JSO who is on MN will see my thread title.

OP posts:
Itisjustmyopinion · 28/07/2024 00:37

Montydone · 27/07/2024 23:17

The vitriol on here is really interesting. It almost seems that these activists disgust people more than those who commit violent crimes including sexual assaults (and in fact their sentences were longer). Is this because they are perceived as privileged and posh? Is this because of the disruption to so many people’s lives on the M25? Again I’m genuinely not trying to be facetious, just really interested about why they are so hated when the motivation behind their crimes are very different to those who commit violent crimes. Or do people think that they’re not really motivated by climate breakdown and there is another agenda?

It is because they are hypocrites. Climate issues have been known about for years but during those years how many have these so called climate saviours contributed to the problem by having children, using anything made of plastic, used a fossil fuel?

Stick on an orange t shirt, get their superglue out of the tool box and head to their local main road and suddenly they are a hero apparently

Gone12 · 28/07/2024 00:39
Biscuit
Redgreenfroggy · 28/07/2024 00:41

They are jumped up arseholes who probably know very little about the cause they are “fighting” for. I have known/know 4 protestors in my life

One who protested peacefully against EDL any chance he got. He also worked in the public sector and is a lovely bloke.

An eternal protestor, he was on sickness benefits saying he could not work and yet managed to go on all these marches. You could actually see were he had painted over his protest sign ready for the next cause. I did not really care until I found out he was standing outside abortion clinics intimidating women going in. The guy was as thick as pigshit and would not be able to give any facts about the causes he “fought” for.
the DWP caught up with him.

One jumped up little shit who was born with a silver spoon in her gob, daddy had 6 cars and she flies on holiday about 4 times a year- yet she is quite happy to disrupt others in the name of climate change. She is all over tik tok and Facebook getting followers and likes. Never mentions the holidays funny enough though.

Another women who is a vile piece of work who protests against abortion yet kicked out her own daughter when she got pregnant.

says it all really

honestyISkind · 28/07/2024 00:43

AdviceNeeded2024 · 28/07/2024 00:36

But will your friend also take her protests to the countries that are causing the most damage to the environment and contributing most to climate change? And if not, why not?

Additionally, it wasn’t non violent protest.

Public Order Act 1986: This act provides the legal framework for regulating protests and assemblies. It defines the boundaries of lawful protest, stating that assemblies must be peaceful and not cause serious public disorder, damage to property, or disruption to the life of the community.

Since they killed people, caused mass chaos and were plotting to do more damage to the public, legally and ethically their abuses were not non violent.

79Beastie · 28/07/2024 00:50

Why have you changed your name for this post if you're so proud of JSO?? Scared you might out yourself? Hypocrites the lot of them. Absolutely disgusting these spoiled arrogant rich kids and old folk that aren't in touch with the real world. How do they get to the protests? Yeah by gas guzzling cars and I bet they can't say they have never traveled by plane. Hypocrites the lot of them.

BritinDelco · 28/07/2024 01:29

Abouttimeforanamechange · 27/07/2024 22:57

I applaud JSO for all that they do to raise awareness of that. I'm so grateful that there are people out there who willing to put their liberty on the line for the good of us all.

How much awareness do you think they've raised in the USA or Brazil or India or China?

I wonder how many of them
Fly
Drive
Replace their mobile phones every year
Buy out of season fruit and veg
Buy cheap imported fashion

My elderly mother has a suggestion for the ones that glue themselves to streets and buildings: 'Just leave them there. Sooner or later they'll need the toilet.'

I believe it was a German car company that did just that, turned off the lights, went home leaving the prats glued to the floor

Biffsboys · 28/07/2024 01:34

You do realise that the glue they used probably has oil in it ?

HauntedbyMagpies · 28/07/2024 01:54

Blinky21 · 27/07/2024 23:54

The comments on here are really classist. I have a friend who engages in ER protests, she's a fantastic person. I have also been disrupted by an ER protest, minor inconvenience compared to the importance of the cause and right to protest. I think the sentences handed to JSO were ridiculous and will be hard to explain to future generations, they also set a really awful precedent for the right to non violent protest

You call an unconscious child in an ambulance, unable to get to hospital a "minor inconvenience?"

JFC

ForGreyKoala · 28/07/2024 02:33

Bibblebobblebibble · 27/07/2024 22:21

Agreed OP.

Do the people on here frothing about the inconvenience the protests caused truly have no idea what is to come as a result of climate change?

If you think the actions of JSO are going to magically stop climate change in its tracks then you are as thick as they are. Would you care to tell us all what they have actually achieved - other than get the majority of people to despise them?

BlackberrySky · 28/07/2024 03:24

What's your take on the millions they have cost the nation in policing their stupid protests OP? Are you happy that they take police away from protecting people from street crime? Are their actions also worth that?

Tricho · 28/07/2024 03:32

"I don't need proof, I've sat in meetings etc"

Lol. Bore off. They're over privileged fools with nothing better to do, I'm thrilled they've been made an example of

Gallowayan · 28/07/2024 03:54

I feel alienated from enviromental causes, and have withdrawn my support, because of the entiteled arrogance of JSO

listsandbudgets · 28/07/2024 05:56

Geekylover · 27/07/2024 23:56

I’ve seen a protest prevent an ambulance pass in London. Grow up

Im not certain of the law but If that person had died I think there would be a case for man slaughter charges

EerieSilence · 28/07/2024 06:07

So you are changing your name to do a big shout out for your beloved JSO? Why?
They're a bunch of horrid cunty fanatics.

Justrolledmyeyesoutloud · 28/07/2024 06:11

CaspersMum24 · 27/07/2024 22:28

YANBU. So many of the negative comments on here are probably from people who have children/grandchildren, but can't see, or just don't care what is happening to the planet their loved ones will inherit. Unfortunately peaceful protest does not work, as no-one really takes any notice of it. Only protest that makes headlines cuts through. Thousands of people protested peacefully in London for nature the other week. How much media coverage did that get? Very little. Fossil fuels are destroying the planet and I applaud JSO for all that they do to raise awareness of that. I'm so grateful that there are people out there who willing to put their liberty on the line for the good of us all.

You obviously weren't caught up in the huge motorway hold ups that they caused then. Didn't lose anybody who couldn't get to hospital because of them?
All they do is raise awareness that they are idiots. And l am being polite there.

endofthelinefinally · 28/07/2024 06:24

I would like to see their strategies that will address poverty, because until that is tackled people around the world will continue to use the cheapest, most polluting fuel.
Then I would like to read how they plan to deal with China.
What is their actual plan for changing jobs, transport, building programmes etc?
Preventing people on zero hours contracts using public transport to get to work has to be the epitome of selfish ignorance.
Blocking ambulances is beneath contempt.

CautiousLurker · 28/07/2024 06:41

Biffsboys · 28/07/2024 01:34

You do realise that the glue they used probably has oil in it ?

Yes, per the following (admittedly from a Daily Mail article 😱)

”Professor Peter Dobson of Queen's College Oxford confirmed the superglue the protesters were using was made using fossil fuels.
He told MailOnline: 'The superglues are Cyanoacrylates.
'Cyanoacrylic acid which is added to an alcohol such as methanol or ethanol to make the ester that forms the basis for the glue
'Methanol is a key starting chemical in the whole of the chemical industry and hence the high dependence on fossil fuel methane.
'I think the anti-fossil fuel movement is neglecting some of the good stuff that can come out of that industry.' “

Izzynohopanda · 28/07/2024 06:52

I guess the oil spillage was an accident, and JSO was deliberate. That’s the difference. We don’t routinely prosecute people who have accidents that close the roads in this country.

JSO are vandals - spraying paint over Stonehenge etc. (which is quite remote so would have needed petrol to get there…).

edit :” The group named the two protesters as Niamh Lynch, a 21-year-old student from Oxford, and Rajan Naidu, a 73-year-old from Birmingham, in a statement.”, so not local then…and another Oxbridge student.

Luio · 28/07/2024 06:52

Do you know how many protests are going on all the time for different causes? There are people protesting on parliament square every single day. There are protests going on outside various embassies, outside businesses and at universities. There are big marches on weekends and also smaller ones. All the people who are protesting think their cause is vitally important. Fortunately, most of those people stick to the law. If they didn’t, you wouldn’t have any chemo appointment ever because the country would be in total chaos. Are you saying they should all break the law or only the ones that are protesting about something you think is important?

Mickeymouseisinnocent · 28/07/2024 06:53

LemonLymanDotCom · 27/07/2024 22:38

Yep! I’m with you @incognit. The world is in crisis, but most of Mumsnet just wants to ignore it, preferring to get angry about trans people instead of the world burning.

The UK produces 1% of global CO2. If they want to make a difference why don't they go and protest in Beijing? And see what happens.

Lampslights · 28/07/2024 07:06

CaspersMum24 · 27/07/2024 22:28

YANBU. So many of the negative comments on here are probably from people who have children/grandchildren, but can't see, or just don't care what is happening to the planet their loved ones will inherit. Unfortunately peaceful protest does not work, as no-one really takes any notice of it. Only protest that makes headlines cuts through. Thousands of people protested peacefully in London for nature the other week. How much media coverage did that get? Very little. Fossil fuels are destroying the planet and I applaud JSO for all that they do to raise awareness of that. I'm so grateful that there are people out there who willing to put their liberty on the line for the good of us all.

This is highly Illogical. Take time to think.

let me help you.

jso have changed nothing. Absolutely nothing. Not one change has been made due to these fools.

but worse,they are turning people off the cause due to their ridiculous antics. They are having the opposite effect. They are damaging the cause they are trying to promote.

jso don’t raise awareness, they never have, awareness is high due to other reasons, all jso do is piss people off.

dottiedodah · 28/07/2024 07:14

While I think they have a valid point to make,the way they go about it is so wrong .1.5 million and many police officers taken up ,when they should have been better used elsewhere. Roger Hallam is mid 50s 5 years .probably out in 2! no real impact.I keep thinking about poor Cressida Gethin and her poor Mum who must be worried sick .she was only 20 when she protested .22 and now with a prison record! We should be worried about the future of our beautiful planet.

MaryRoze · 28/07/2024 07:19

I work for an oil company and you're right - JSO are absolutely on our radar. We've got a whole procedure involving the police in case those little cunts show up Grin

On a more serious note, we do have our own sustainability and environmental targets we're working towards - but I can assure you they've not been influenced whatsoever by JSO or ER.

slantedroof · 28/07/2024 07:26

incognit · 27/07/2024 21:33

Yes, I know some of them personally, no you can't embarrass me, yes many of them are retired, 70s, 80s, even 90s, - so what? They are not sacrificing careers, but are risking their safety and liberty. Students and working ones are risking their careers as well. I don't need to post you any links, because I have experienced it in person, sitting in meetings. They have a massive impact.

So basically this is a post from someone in JSO saying, ‘We are all heroes’.

Right.

MillyMollyMandHey · 28/07/2024 07:26

but worse,they are turning people off the cause due to their ridiculous antics. They are having the opposite effect. They are damaging the cause they are trying to promote.

And Cressida’s Mummy has sunk it completely. Laughing stocks, all of them.