Meet the Other Phone. Protection built in.

Meet the Other Phone.
Protection built in.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Or is DH? Stuck on holiday with him

304 replies

WITWHBIWAGT · 26/07/2024 19:55

Bought lunch in a small supermarket today as per agreement. We are on holiday and needed quick food. I got a shop bought meat sandwich and some bread and hummus. It was slim pickings.

So, DC decided they didn’t want the shop sandwich and I’m vegetarian. So I said to DH, ‘I am afraid it’s the shop bought sandwich for you.’ I said it in a kind of resigned, ‘bloody fussy kids’ kind of way - I thought.

He got cross and asked why does he have to eat it? I said you don’t but DC don’t want it and I don’t eat meat. ‘So why aren’t I allowed bread and hummus?’ - me ‘I’m not saying you are aren’t, I’m just saying no one else will eat that sandwich’ - he continues ranting. I say, ‘it’s fine, we can just chuck the sandwich away’.

Anyway he goes on being cross and telling me how awful I’m being. I get a bit tearful. Oldest DC comes and hugs me. DH storms off and slams the door. Then a bit later comes angrily out and angrily eats the bloody sandwich. I try and make conversation but I’m feeling a bit upset.

DC then go off somewhere so I calmly explain that I wasn’t dictating he should have the sandwich, more was commiserating. He sulkily says thank you for explaining and then says, ‘but can you see how I might think you were dictating what I eat’. I say no I don’t, because it seems obvious to me that I’m saying oh no, you poor thing, the DC are being fussy again and you are going to be stuck with that boring sandwich.

He launches into another tirade about how awful I’ve been (I got a bit irritated with him twice in the last week - I think most people would have but that’s another thread) - called me arrogant. Said my irritation with him was as unacceptable. I asked him if he thought it was ok to speak to me how he was. He didn’t answer. Carried on his tirade until I just sat quiet for long enough. I had a bit of a cry.

Was I being unreasonable and should he say sorry for getting so angry and storming off? To be clear, I stayed calm, didn’t once shout and didn’t call him any names or have a go at him but also didn’t just apologise because he’d completely misunderstood me for some reason.

I’ve got another week of holiday left. I just want to go home but have to play happy families for DC.

OP posts:
11oclockrock · 26/07/2024 21:15

I grew up with a constant bad atmosphere between my parents, snapping, sulking, tears etc. It was awful. It marred all of our holidays. It was incredibly stressful. I urge you to end this marriage so you and your kids can finally relax.

Icedlatteplease · 26/07/2024 21:18

Despite the slim pickings the children has something that they had in the sandwiches everyday, the OP had something that was selected for her and generally considered pretty tasty and the DH had... whatever was leftover from everyone else's selection with "that's a shit sandwich but youll eat it anyway".

I'd say that's pretty afterthought-y

Not even "are you OK with bread and hummus the selection here is shocking?" Or "shall we some some crappy chocolate in for everyone to make up for dinner"

Either way, the relationship is dead in the water

Justrolledmyeyesoutloud · 26/07/2024 21:19

1VY · 26/07/2024 21:00

@WITWHBIWAGT

I’ll tell you a couple of things I’ve noticed.

Some men hate spending family time with their kids, unless it’s all about them and what they want to do. But they know that saying this out loud makes them a shit dad and partner . So they act like arseholes when they are there and hope that their wife will say ( as suggested up this thread) “ ok you just go off and do your own thing while all do all the parenting “.

They also like to pick fights on holiday, so they can dump their resentment at actually having to be there at all.

Some men think that they shouldn’t have to do any of the grunt work of parenting, especially on holiday . They think that’s women’s work . Like buying lunch or letting the kids have first choice of food because they are kids.

Some men think they should always come first, which is hard with young children as they are also self centred. But eventually they learn that life is better if daddy always gets his own way, otherwise he will sulk and spoil things.

Does any of this sound familiar ?

How true is this???!! Scarily so.

Icedlatteplease · 26/07/2024 21:20

CheekyHobson · 26/07/2024 21:06

I'd be pretty upset too if I was always an afterthought. I'm not at all convinced it was an overreaction of the OP's DH. Just genuine hurt.

@Icedlatteplease You've written a little story here that the OP's husband is "always an afterthought" but it's hard to see on what evidence you've formed that opinion.

There's a lot of different interpretations. That's the nature of a open forum

Icedlatteplease · 26/07/2024 21:25

user1984778379202 · 26/07/2024 21:15

It wouldn't have mattered if they'd printed out a three-page shopping list for her – the shop was poorly stocked so she grabbed what she could. He reacted like a dick.

Yet op got something edible to her food requirements, DC got something edible to there food requirements, DH got something edible to everyone else's food requirements.

That might well be the way it happens. Sometimes it's not what happens, It's how you talk to each other about it

lowflyingtitties · 26/07/2024 21:25

Why do you assume the DH was getting leftovers @Icedlatteplease ? That's very interesting that that is the conclusion you have come to despite the OP's posts.

user1984778379202 · 26/07/2024 21:26

Icedlatteplease · 26/07/2024 21:20

There's a lot of different interpretations. That's the nature of a open forum

But you're not interpreting, you're making stuff up. You have stated the DH is always an afterthought when OP has said no such thing.

Icedlatteplease · 26/07/2024 21:27

lowflyingtitties · 26/07/2024 21:25

Why do you assume the DH was getting leftovers @Icedlatteplease ? That's very interesting that that is the conclusion you have come to despite the OP's posts.

I've asked the OP that question a few times, the op doesn't answer. Just repeats it was slim pickings and why she and the dc got the hummus and shop sandwich

OfficerChurlish · 26/07/2024 21:27

I can understand why he was slightly irritated by what you said. But why act like he would have had to eat the sandwich just because you asked him to, when (1) there was enough bread and hummus for everyone and (2) you'd just let the child you'd actually bought the sandwich for refuse to eat it? He should have just said "no thanks, that belongs to [Childsname]" (or just "no thanks")and dug into the hummus, or gone off himself to pick out something he liked better. Acting like you're bullying him into eating it, given that it sounds like he does similar a lot, comes across as uncomfortably close to wanting to play the victim/martyr and paint you in a worst than accurate or necessary light. He could also just say "I'm tired of the assumption I'll eat anything no one else wants" and start a conversation without a performance.

Titsywoo · 26/07/2024 21:27

PermanentlyFullLaundryBasket · 26/07/2024 20:45

This is not about the sandwich. This is a about a couple whose communication is sliding past each other. What you are saying and what you mean doesn't align.

Based on the three described situations, it sounds as if he is feeling you have to 'win' every minor disagreement.

He thanked you for your explanation, you refused to accept how it landed for him.
You asked him not to put bottles in the boot and then got irritated when his solution wasn't what you wanted, but didn't say what your solution was.
Then in a conversation he was having with DC, you jumped in and critcised him again.

The anger becomes disproportionate because of the constant rubbing each other up the wrong way. Resentment is building and unless you find a way to get clearer with each other, this marriage is dead

Edited

This is the best response here I think.

OP your husband took things way too far and instead of getting a little annoyed he acted like a petulant child and ruined everyones day so he should say sorry.

However after your story about the wine bottles it sounds like you are unhappy with him in general and that is coming out in the way you talk to him. If I was so patronising and critical of my DH he would get pretty snippy with me too (and vice versa if the tables were turned!).

I think you need to work through this more with your counsellor if you haven't both already given up.

You both sound like you need to learn that sometimes you need to let things go as this petty sniping will destroy your relationship.

Sunnydiary · 26/07/2024 21:29

JFC I can’t believe how many posters are still banging on about the shit sandwich!!

OP. I understand. You hoped that DH might pull it together and be a fair and willing participant in your much needed family holiday.

Instead he’s making it abundantly clear that he doesn’t want to be there, and that you piss him off. He pisses you off too. I’m not sure either of you even likes the other any longer.

Big Girls Pants to get through the holiday with minimum damage to the DC. Can you spend some time apart from DH either with or without DC?

When you get home I agree with PP that counselling for yourself would be beneficial.

lowflyingtitties · 26/07/2024 21:30

Thats what I'm saying though @Icedlatteplease , the OP and dc didn't get the sandwich, bread and hummus. The bread and hummus was for everyone. Why are you assuming the dh was just getting the leftovers? You didn't answer why you have assumed that.

CheekyHobson · 26/07/2024 21:31

Icedlatteplease · 26/07/2024 21:27

I've asked the OP that question a few times, the op doesn't answer. Just repeats it was slim pickings and why she and the dc got the hummus and shop sandwich

She got the hummus and bread because that was something everyone could eat, and the sandwich because one of her DC might like it and failing that, her DH might like it.

How many times does she have to say it?

user1984778379202 · 26/07/2024 21:32

lowflyingtitties · 26/07/2024 21:30

Thats what I'm saying though @Icedlatteplease , the OP and dc didn't get the sandwich, bread and hummus. The bread and hummus was for everyone. Why are you assuming the dh was just getting the leftovers? You didn't answer why you have assumed that.

Exactly.@Icedlattepleaseis wilfully ignoring what OP explained in previous posts. She bought the sandwich for one of her DC and the hummus and bread for everyone else. The DC didn't want it, so she thought DH would have it. She didn't buy any of the food as leftovers!

Icedlatteplease · 26/07/2024 21:33

CheekyHobson · 26/07/2024 21:31

She got the hummus and bread because that was something everyone could eat, and the sandwich because one of her DC might like it and failing that, her DH might like it.

How many times does she have to say it?

You've said that.

That isn't actually what the op said. She said SHE could eat the bread and hummus and there was enough for everyone.

There is a difference.

Icedlatteplease · 26/07/2024 21:35

user1984778379202 · 26/07/2024 21:32

Exactly.@Icedlattepleaseis wilfully ignoring what OP explained in previous posts. She bought the sandwich for one of her DC and the hummus and bread for everyone else. The DC didn't want it, so she thought DH would have it. She didn't buy any of the food as leftovers!

Or to look at it another way. If there was enough bread and hummus for everyone, why get something else for anyone?

letsjustdothis · 26/07/2024 21:35

I know it's not the point but I just can't get my head around a supermarket abroad not having any fruit, cheese slices, precooked ham/chicken/etc, even if they don't have sandwiches or sandwich fillers.

thismummydrinksgin · 26/07/2024 21:37

Holidays have been like this for us, so only booked two days this year. Still fell out ...

user1984778379202 · 26/07/2024 21:37

Icedlatteplease · 26/07/2024 21:33

You've said that.

That isn't actually what the op said. She said SHE could eat the bread and hummus and there was enough for everyone.

There is a difference.

Bloody hell, talk about nitpicking. Yes, OP said she could eat the hummus because she's vegetarian. She also said DH didn't have to eat the sandwich. He made her cry. But he's still the good guy in all of this, eh?

HaveANiceFuckingDay · 26/07/2024 21:37

I've not read the WHOLE of the posts but enough to know I disagree.
You're offering him a sandwich no one else wants like he's a human dustbin that's only worthy of scraps.
I'd be fucked off too
You should have throw it to the foxes ffs.
And don't be that person that withdraws washing/ food / cleaning / cooking because he didn't eat what he considered shit.
Why didn't you eat it ? Because you're vegetarian? Why didn't he eat it , because he didn't want to and why should either of you?
Maybe next time give him a call and say " this is what's on offer what would you like ?"

willWillSmithsmith · 26/07/2024 21:37

I don’t approve of his attitude (had one like it myself, thankfully ex) but was there really only one tub of hummus and one (apparently) unappetising sandwich in that supermarket?

CheekyHobson · 26/07/2024 21:38

Icedlatteplease · 26/07/2024 21:33

You've said that.

That isn't actually what the op said. She said SHE could eat the bread and hummus and there was enough for everyone.

There is a difference.

You are being willfully ignorant.

Its obvious that the reason she clarified she could eat it was because she’s vegetarian and that introduces a limitation. She chose something that everyone including her, could eat, as opposed to getting something that everyone except her could eat eg bread and pate. And she also got something one of her DC and also her husband might like but that she wouldn’t eat herself.

If anyone was left with limited options it was OP and her other DC who presumably wouldn’t be into the sandwich.

user1984778379202 · 26/07/2024 21:38

Icedlatteplease · 26/07/2024 21:35

Or to look at it another way. If there was enough bread and hummus for everyone, why get something else for anyone?

Because her son had had the sandwich a few days before for school and really liked it so she thought she'd get it again – the rest of the food would've stretched further then. He didn't fancy it so she thought her DH would. He kicked off and made her cry, nice guy that he is.

user1984778379202 · 26/07/2024 21:39

HaveANiceFuckingDay · 26/07/2024 21:37

I've not read the WHOLE of the posts but enough to know I disagree.
You're offering him a sandwich no one else wants like he's a human dustbin that's only worthy of scraps.
I'd be fucked off too
You should have throw it to the foxes ffs.
And don't be that person that withdraws washing/ food / cleaning / cooking because he didn't eat what he considered shit.
Why didn't you eat it ? Because you're vegetarian? Why didn't he eat it , because he didn't want to and why should either of you?
Maybe next time give him a call and say " this is what's on offer what would you like ?"

RTFT first before you start spouting hurtful nonsense.

LividSummer · 26/07/2024 21:39

This isn’t about sandwiches.

And life is so much easier divorced. Come over to the dark side. Nobody to have Hummus Gate with other than your own kids.