Greater Manchester Police brutality

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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/jul/24/armed-police-officer-filmed-kicking-man-in-face-at-manchester-airport

Sickening behaviour. Surely tasering the man is enough.
He is on the floor tasered so you give him some kickings to the head?

Hope this is properly investigated.
Greater Manchester Police have an awful reputation.

So you are newly qualified?

No need, people have waded in here without policing qualifications damning the police, so I'm quite happy to follow suit and damn laywers that come on here defending criminals.

Your probably need to go and read up a bit about British politics

People are not damning the police. They’re commenting on the violent, excessive response of one officer.

Due process will tell.

You're not the objective arbiter over whether it was violent and excessive. Hence why you're damning the police without knowing all the facts

You would have though people would have learned this by now after there was such a strong initial reaction to an incomplete video of the situation.

Don't do what?
The facts are there.
According to ICOP.

23 People arrested in 22/23 died in police custody.

not necessarily a race issue as
nineteen of the 23 people arrested who died in police custody were white.

Although the use of force did not necessarily contribute to all the deaths but it did some.

The use of force should never contribute to anyone's death.
So yes improved training is needed.

I don't want innocents shot dead either like in the case of Jean Charles de Menezes. Later reported as a 'tragedy.
Unacceptable.

@Usercyzabc no, my formal legal education finished upon qualification. Every day is a school day though I suppose.

@MyGladEagle can you point to me defending the perpetrators? I think I've said the opposite many times.

Why is improved training needed?

I really struggle with the idea of people who make mistakes while sitting in offices telling people who make a third of what they do to deal with violent criminals better.

Well this has aged well…video clearly shows the dickheads starting the violence

@rosiers the way you write doesn’t make that clear, though, you write like you’ve just qualified not like you have any real life experience in the field just theoretical training.

I suppose that’s a separate issue entirely on its own and par for the course.

I struggle with innocent people dying in police custody when force has been used.

Every single post of yours has defended this criminals. Violently attacking a police officer requires no accountability for the officers actions in response to the situation. Human beings should have the agency to deal with attempts to end their lives in whatever way they see fit with no recriminations.

Violently attacking a police officer requires no accountability for the officers actions in response to the situation.

Crikey, that's pretty open ended.

Human beings should have the agency to deal with attempts to end their lives in whatever way they see fit with no recriminations.

And that really.

Are you sure you've thought this through?

Why's that then? Mistakes happen all the time that lead to loss of life, one is happening now in a hospital somewhere in the world as we speak.

Unless we've got infinite resources to train and pay officers to deal with the legion of criminals is this Country, the common sense thing to would be to save your outrage for the large number of people who are victims of crime in this Country.

MyGladEagle

Every single post of yours has defended this criminals. Violently attacking a police officer requires no accountability for the officers actions in response to the situation. Human beings should have the agency to deal with attempts to end their lives in whatever way they see fit with no recriminations“

You may feel more at home in China, Russia, North Korea, Afghanistan.

I certainly don't feel at home in a Country where people protest on behalf of violent criminals.

Why should I have to think through what I need to do if someone is attempting to end my life?

"I struggle with innocent people dying in police custody when force has been used."

Innocent 🤣 the absolute scumbags that kicked off in an airport and assaulted armed police are hardly innocent. Fucking hell.

Why weren’t there protests about the lethal punch an adult gave his 11 year old sister which killed her?
Sane area of the country.

@MyGladEagle hmmm your logic is failing you. It's possible to think these two things simultaneously:

1. the perpetrators were disgraceful and I hope they are convicted
2. the behaviour of the officer after the perpetrator had been tasered on the floor was unjustified

I am not, and have never, supported the actions of the violent perpetrators.

Your utopia is police officers doing whatever they want in response to a violent offender with no consequences. Think that one through.

Your utopia is police officers acting with 100% proportional force in every given situation.

Real time violent situations are messy and imperfect, when you create one then you should have no recourse for the outcome being imperfect.

You're the one that needs to think it through when you're trying to put pressure on lowly paid civil servants that are there to protect the public to put the protection of violent criminals over the officers. One wonders who on earth is going to want to do a job where they aren't given leeway in violent situations.

rosiers · Today 12:07
hmmm your logic is failing you. It's possible to think these two things simultaneously:
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the perpetrators were disgraceful and I hope they are convicted
the behaviour of the officer after the perpetrator had been tasered on the floor was unjustified
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I am not, and have never, supported the actions of the violent perpetrators.
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Your utopia is police officers doing whatever they want in response to a violent offender with no consequences. Think that one through”

Well said.

The debate we’re seeing on this thread is going to be happening countrywide and no doubt will be less civilised. Many people will back the instigators and say they were treated brutally and it was down to racism/Islamiphobia.

Many will believe that the Police had a right to protect the public during a consistently violent attack that may have been terrorism. What happens next? There could be riots on either side. Tensions are high and social media is whipping up both sides.

The Tommy Robinson march yesterday was attended by over 30,000 people. Trying to find justice that appeases both sides is going to be difficult🥲

Your desire to use due process seems contradictory to your earlier certainty of the outcome

You don’t know as an mner and I think Burnham’s message is for your type of posts