Greater Manchester Police brutality

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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/jul/24/armed-police-officer-filmed-kicking-man-in-face-at-manchester-airport

Sickening behaviour. Surely tasering the man is enough.
He is on the floor tasered so you give him some kickings to the head?

Hope this is properly investigated.
Greater Manchester Police have an awful reputation.

@JacquesHarlow you've repeatedly said that the officers were outnumbered as though you are placing weight on this. There are three officers attempting to arrest one man. One other man (his brother) instigates the violence. The 3 police officers were not outnumbered by the two perpetrators.

The response was ok with me - yes you were t asking me but I’m jumping in anyway.

You don't understand the law of evidence, do you? Precedent and "conclusive references" simply don't come into it. The evidence is there in the video: the man is lying on the floor having just been tasered, the police can simply take his arms and restrain them behind his back, ditto his feet, to neutralise any threat.

If kicking someone in the head was an appropriate response in this situation, the officer wouldn't have been suspended.

Please prove he could have easily been detained and handcuffed while on the floor. Are you an expert in detaining violently out of control people or do you have one to hand?

Come off it, it was too risky to get close enough to cuff him, but not too risky to get close enough to kick him? These are officers trained to deal with precisely this sort of situation.

Nobody can say we weren't warned
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How do you know they can simply take his arms and restrain him behind his back?

In the USA they would have been shot as the police are a lot more trigger happy.

It's a shame they weren't, they wouldn't be a sad loss to society, behaving like violent scum in an airport area where their horrific behaviour would be inflicted on others. Not to mention the violent assault against the police. I hope they get the heaviest sentence possible.

They are a disgrace just as are the 'protestors' who are just a bunch of trouble makers intent on a riot. Even the Imam trying to diffuse the situation outside the police station was reported as stating to the crowd 'this is what these brothers want' as though the police and locals want this kind of violence and disorder! How dare he? He should have said you are behaving like a bunch of intimidating thugs are bring shame on your family and community. It's no surprise at all that the cowards hide their faces. They had no need to react at all until they saw the entire incident.

In bradford the same kind of unrest was seen after the fatal shooting of the drug dealer Yassar Yakuub. The community blocking roads, masked up, waving black lives matter banners. He was a heroine dealing scumbag whose house had been shot up by rival dealers and who reached for a gun. But yet again a massively overheated reaction was seen which was utterly unjustified.

It's no wonder Reform are making gains is it? Nigel will be fucking loving this. Anti Muslim sentiment will certainly increase.

Those men have got a lot to answer for. The policeman who kicked the perpetrator much less so. Not only did he deserve it, he needed immobilising .

But one could argue that the official treatment of the police officer in this case is to appease potential rioters and to diffuse sectarian tensions. It's politics more than justice.

Were the officers outnumbered when two of them became incapacitated?

Somehow I doubt that.

I count five people surrounding three officers in the new video, with others just out of vision.

Yes two of them appear to be the main perpetrators, but you make it sound as if there were only two people - there were many more in a situation which needed controlling.

What you also fail to say @rosiers is how the man in light blue punches one officer (F I think), to the ground. Then takes a huge swing and downs a second female officer. Then runs straight back to the male officer and sucker punches him in the head, with a flying punch. Then drags the injured officer to the ground and makes a reach for his belt.

I’d love to hear how people feel this would have concluded in the US, Canada, France, China or Russia.

But he did get close enough. After the kick he kneels on his kidney. He could have cuffed him then, but for whatever reason chose not to.

How do you know he could have cuffed him?

Exactly - way better put than I just did.

Two of the officers are felled by the man in light blue. That makes it two or three on one, and the huge sucker punch from the light blue guy brings the third police officer (M) to the ground.

At this point it’s about fighting for your life and trying to regain control of a situation that could turn very scary. When on the ground, the perpetrator appears to reach for the officer’s belt - I may be wrong here but it looks like it.

At that stage it’s a proper crisis. What followed merits investigation, but I never said it didn’t

What I’m sick of is people making out that the police were fine. They had three people, etc.

NO.

Two of them were heavily incapacitated, one with a broken nose. The third is at this point trying to contain two highly aggressive males.

Punching a police officer and breaking her nose should be a jail sentence. We can't tolerate attacks on those who enforce our laws, it needs to be clear that assaulting them is severely punished.

Cuffing him would have involved holstering the taser and bending down close enough to him so he could start punching you in the head (again) or grapple with you and grab your weapons. This guy has just shown that he was willing to resort to extreme violence in order to avoid arrest.

I hope none of the police officers, who were all punched in the head, (some repeatedly) have developed cysts. Would be terrible if they counter-sued.

Yes.

But why should anyone be referencing a "community"

There is one law, defined legal processes for anyone in this country

Why should police be having meetings with "community leaders". Why should the "community" be involved at all in what was basically a couple of violent scumbags and their by-standing enablers trying to get to interfere with police doing their jobs?

So how do you know he could have been easily detained then?

I assume since you're an expert in detaining violent criminals you'll be able to give us a precise example of where you've been violently attacked and then had to detain one. Strange how you haven't already.

LovelyBitOfHam · Today 01:42
It always amuses me how much some Mumsnetters hate the police.”

I certainly don’t hate the police. I respect and admire anyone who puts themselves forward. I also respect the law, though, and the officer was acting illegally.

There are a number of officers close by, including the one who has just tasered the man on the ground. He could have been tasered again if necessary. It's not all down to the one officer and, as I have said, they are trained to restrain people safely.

AhBiscuits · Today 11:11
Punching a police officer and breaking her nose should be a jail sentence. We can't tolerate attacks on those who enforce our laws, it needs to be clear that assaulting them is severely punished.

Absolutely, by due process of law.

In the video, you can see the person on the floor get up after the officer who kicked him in the head then goes to the other person who is on the bench with his hands behind his head.

The officer leaves the unrestrained man on the ground - the one who he has kicked in the head. A second or 2 later, the man on the ground is then restrained by another officer.

Were all the tasers still functioning at this point in time?