Admitting to killing his sister and getting away with it

[SouthernFashionista]

I could weep after reading this. But mostly I’m just angry. How in gods name has this happened? I know some don’t like DM links but the facts are that a man punched his sister in the head, killing her, and admitted doing so yet will face no charges. Sickening.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13664507/Girl-11-died-punched-heat-moment-half-brother-not-face-charges.html

I am sorry, but I am not going to form an opinion on this based on a single press report and that in the Daily Mail to boot.

There is, I suspect, considerably more to this than has been printed.

A cowardly, despicable family.

An awful violent man, who attacked a child! I hope his girlfriend (seemingly the only one with any sense) has dumped him.

And her father did nothing to get her justice... Just awful.

They seem religious, so hopefully their god will judge them.

Culture which is the word i used definitely played a factor in victoria climbies death.

Star and Arthur's parents were no Christians- I'd be fascinated to know the last time they saw the inside of a church.

My SIL are her family are muslims and my DB converted. My inlaws will very openly discuss the fact with way many muslim men view women is highly problematic and her parents will openly said its the reason only 1 of their 5 daughters ever chose to marry (the parents are progressive and absurdly wealthy) .

Yes I have friends who are muslim too, I had one friend who was regularly beaten up by her brother, I had friends who got beaten by their dads as discipline (one was a public slapping btw). I knew girls who went to school and straight home while their brothers ran the streets. I care about women, I’m not in the business of excusing shitty male behaviours just incase it gives racist air. It’s the massive blindspot people have, we can’t talk about it because we don’t want to give racists oxygen. We sacrifice women and children for that.

I also know some lovely kind muslim men who love their wives and daughters and have high expectations of their son’s behaviour. I know plenty of intelligent and able muslim women who have a very strong moral compass, I’ve adored many muslim women I’ve met and become friends with who

It doesn’t change the fact there are problems when a community is highly patriarchal and family honour rests on the shoulders of women.

Do you seriously think that in white families abuse isn't covered up?

You are either utterly naive or utterly disungenuous.

White people are statistically overlwhelmingly the abusers in the UK, so let's just say it's cultural to white people.

it’s not always Muslims but it is most often south asians.

No, statistically it's white people.

Star and Arthur's parents were no Christians

So by the same principal, people who abuse children are not Muslims.

You can't have one rule for Muslims and another for non-Muslims.

I also agree we have as a society turned a blind eye to abuse of women and children by plenty of white men too and others in minority groups (orthodox jewish women and girls comes to mind). It breaks my fucking heart tbh. As I get older I increasingly loathe men and their handmaidens. The destruction males wreak on females is so clear yet so easily dismissed.

I read a book about how prosecutions for causes of death are successful in court. It said if someone dies at the hands of another within the following (I think) 24 hours, then cause of death is easy to prove. However, if they linger on, the chances of a successful prosecution slip away.

And God forbid if the Post mortem reveals underlying diseases that the person could have lived with without knowing about.

It's very sad, but we should all hope that if we had the misfortune of being murdered we should die within 24hrs to make it easier for our deaths to be prosecuted.

If you're going to wait until the Guardian or the BBC gives a shit about women, it may be a while.

This isn't a Daily Mail opinion piece, a little girl died and her adult brother admitted in writing to hitting her. Those are facts no matter which source reports them.

What does this even mean??? 😵‍💫

Yes "White people" are shit heads and child abusers too but why are we supposed to sit here and pretend that there is NOT a problematic attitude towards women within the muslim culture (just like extreme Christian churches mostly found in the US, ultra orthodox jews etc) and that this is NOT a factor in this girls death when it really is.

Actually, it's not. The NCBI found:

The three regions with lowest lifetime intimate partner violence prevalence estimates were central Europe (16%; UI 12–21%), central Asia (18%; 13–24%), and western Europe (20%; 15–26%), although even these rates are still high.
As with the lifetime prevalence of intimate partner violence, the highest prevalence of past year physical or sexual, or both, intimate partner violence among ever-partnered women aged 15–49 years was in the regions of central sub-Saharan Africa (32%; UI 22–43%) and Oceania (29%; 19–40%), followed by eastern sub-Saharan Africa (24%; 19–29%) and south Asia (19%; 12–27%; table 4).
Overall, mostly high-income countries including Australasia (3%; UI 2–5%), western Europe (4%; 3–6%), central Europe (5%; 3–6%), southern Latin America (5%; 3–8%), and North America (6%; 4–9%) had the lowest estimated prevalence rates of past year physical or sexual, or both, intimate partner violence among women aged 15–49 years"

Because it's extremely facile to say the child abuse due to the family being Muslim when there is no evidence of it.

You are coming to it from a place of deep prejudice.

@diktat

I didnt say it happened "because they are muslim" that's patently ridiculous.

But honestly Do you really think muslim culture is not at all problematic and is good for women???

Also in case you missed it My BROTHER and SIL ARE MUSLIM!!!
So are all her family who i socialise with....
So i cant be that much of a racist arsehole 🤷🏻‍♀️

Imagine being an 11 year old girl who takes her young siblings into the bathroom to hide, then getting the door rammed in by a grown man, imagine the fear those 3 children experienced at that moment, then those younger children witnessing their sister being punched and collapsing. I can't imagine how scared those poor children must have been. It's just heartbreaking that no one was protecting them in their own house. He admitted to punching and killing her. That poor little girl then suffered for 3 weeks before she died, it's horrific.

What a violence apologists post. Seriously?!

It really is truly sickening. Being male certainly trumps being female in this household.

Agreed.
Its horrific stuff.
Especially as their parents and grandmother are protexting their abuser

@TemuSpecialBuy no no, why are you not centering on the poor killer? As @mm81736 put he may be 'in shock'...

Exactly why were they not protecting those 3 little children! I guess because they were/are scared of him, but to me that is not an excuse. I really hope he rots in jail for what he did!

This is absolutely heartbreaking breaking. He punched an 11 year old little girl to death and admitted it in text messages! Why on earth are they not pushing for justice for that poor girl. She had her whole life ahead of her and he will suffer no repercussions for this? It's sick. Somebody needs to start a petition or something this is awful.

Do you really think muslim culture is not at all problematic and is good for women???

Do you really think white culture is not all problematic and is good for white women?

From what I've read the decision not to prosecute is wrong.
For those saying they don't believe a word in the Mail, the report was of the inquest, not speculation, journalists' opinion or background research.
The inquest continues so it will be interesting to hear the rest of it, but yes, terribly sad for the young girl.

I think I'm in a bit of a quandary regarding the police and CPS and their position as both simultaneously systemically racist and also so unwilling to appear racist that they don't prosecute crimes against people that they are systemically racist towards.

It's kind of like they just don't really give a fuck about anyone