Admitting to killing his sister and getting away with it

[SouthernFashionista]

I could weep after reading this. But mostly I’m just angry. How in gods name has this happened? I know some don’t like DM links but the facts are that a man punched his sister in the head, killing her, and admitted doing so yet will face no charges. Sickening.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13664507/Girl-11-died-punched-heat-moment-half-brother-not-face-charges.html

Yes it’s awful to see

Not at all - ignorance is not a defence in law. I was drawing a scenario which some others might take as extenuating factors. Let us not pretend that trials are not affected by community concerns and are decided solely on expert medical testimony.

I'm almost amused here though I certainly shouldn't be as this is an appalling crime and shows monumental cowardice on the part of the CPS. This is a cultural issue, where the males of family can do no wrong and can (and do) whatever they like. Females are 2nd class, 2nd rate and come 2nd in any family reputational issues. Sorry if this offends but . . .

'Community concerns' what a term...

I thought about this case when I watched the 1997 film Twelve Angry Men yesterday, about a panel of jurors and the decision they came to if anyone has seen it

This big Prince amongst men battered down a door to get to his young sister then punched her in the face. As far as i am concerned he should be hung. Nobody ( unless they are from that community that hate women) can ever square that fact. He is vile and his parents are vile.

Yes. Someone else raised the death penalty in respect of this.

I agree, he should be hung.

He waited 23 minutes to call an ambulance. He could be heard telling family members what not to say during the emergency call. He cooperated until the police ascertained he’d punched her unconscious then went No Comment. He’s got off Scot free, his vile family are complicit and it’s not isolated in that community.

Why do you think the female police officers in Manchester were pummelled to the floor? Women need to be put in their place!!

This is not an isolated occurrence and not restricted to murders within the Muslim Community.
At the height of the Rape Gang exposé, the Muslim Woman's Collective produced this shocking and courageous report :-
https://www.mwnuk.co.uk//go_files/resources/UnheardVoices.pdf
on the sexual exploitation of young, underage Muslim girls, including a large amount of incest, which was totally ignored by the Mainstream MEEJAH.

Sadly, too many schools are more than prepared to ignore serious assault and other forms of criminality in order to protect the "good name" of the school.
Once pupils reach the age of criminal responsibility serious assaults should be reported to the police by the school leadership.

Protecting the male?
Or avoiding upsetting "the community" he belongs to?
I suspect more than a bit of the latter.

I’m was talking about the family

"And since when have police had to 'ask' to speak to children?"

Since the Police started pandering to the cultural sensitivities of an ethnic minority (at the moment) on the grounds of avoiding disturbances.

Probably since the Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984 and the concept of a responsible adult?

Not about considerations of race or ethnicity so much as a long history of police malpractice in questioning minors and vulnerable adults.

Stefan Kisko anybody?

But we've seen this before, haven't we?

Young girls were being groomed and sexually assaulted by groups of men for years in Rotherham, to the point a few ended in pregnancy.

When some complaints were raised, the powers that be were so scared of reprisal and accusations, these poor girls were taken as slappers, from an estate, oh well.

They were in some cases written off as call girls. They were very young teens so it actually blows my mind that agencies thought that was the best way to mark it as. Even if they were child prostitutes, there was a duty of care to try and remove them from that situation, which did not happen.

Even now, those men have and will be released back into society.

It's just indicative of a society which still treats females as second class citizens.

When I was at school, between 93-98, there were 5 male teachers who had inappropriate relationships with female students, one resulting in a pregnancy in year 9. Only two of them were removed -not sacked, they quietly left presumable to go to another school - when I was still a pupil. It wasn't rumour, it was fact, with at least two female staff members leaving because they had become aware of certain teachers behaviour, which was not dealt with.

Again, the authorities did very little, girls who came forward were offered places at a different school, but rumours followed them and they were seen as slags at their new school. Meanwhile, until around 2000 when it became an academy, which did not want the scandal of male teachers misbehave with female students, these men carried on their careers.

It's nothing new.

This is appalling. What can we do? I sign petitions and support online groups that protest against this. But nothing seems to change.

I was fortunate in that I grew up in a pretty safe bubble. Nothing like that went in at my school (as far as I was aware). I was aware of 2 female teachers at different schools having relationships with male students. One was fired.

I would really like to do more than protect my own. What can we do?

I don't think there's more we can do, other than continue to put pressure on agencies to step up and do their jobs.

Sadly though, the media are suggesting that the officers who were attacked in Manchester will potentially have to go into hiding due to threats received, which is credible as it's another situation we've seen before.

My DD is gay, but even that doesn't stop them becoming a target, at secondary school DS was told a group of Muslim boys were going to catch up with her and "rape her straight". He was very upset by this. DD is made of harder stuff and she collared the boy who said it, at which point he told her in front of other students that she should be thrown from the roof and was a disgrace to us as a family!

It was reported to school and the police. Police did nothing but say to school for them to deal with it. We were advised to pick them up and drop them off at school "in case". School gave him a two day in school suspension. That was it.

When I suggested this wasn't enough, I was told it was "unlikely" anything would happen to her. As I said to the police officer who phoned "well that's OK then, it might happen but oh well, we will wait until it does eh?" He got quite annoyed with me that I was being sarcastic which he felt was "unhelpful" and his hands were tied.

Obviously DD was fine but both my teens left the school as soon as able, in fact when DD went to a new school for college in September last year, DS decided to go with her and finish his education outside of the old school. Glad to say at this school it's very different and neither has had grief.

Totally agree with this. And it's still happening today with young girls in Oldham. Oh, and there's no such thing as a child prostitute. The authorities used this description to justify the way these girls were being treated right in front of their eyes. Scum

Well, all that 'ignorance of the law is no excuse' seems to have been a figment of the imagination of Rumpole:

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2268395/Adil-Rashid-Paedophile-claimed-Muslim-upbringing-meant-didnt-know-illegal-sex-girl-13.html

I'm old enough to remember the Student Protest movement of the 1960s, '70s & '80s and often wondered where those student activists and their leaders went to.
Looking at legal decisions that that one then I think the answer is now at least partially obvious.

I’m fairly certain my ex husband would have dealt with that boy directly. I’m not advocating it as people defending their daughters could be hurt. But it seems that is all that is left to us.

Good for saying what a lot of us were thinking

You have some very bad judges. But thank you for posting that.

Have you heard about Houris as taught in Islam? They say when a man dies he will have houris, who are women with fair skin, big eyes, smiling faces, large bust, just enough intelligence to obey the man, have no bodily functions or odours, will stay a virgin even if the man has as much s ex as he wants and not get pregnant.
It sounds like a sexist made up story, as if they can't get pregnant, then they're saying breasts are just for the man's pleasure. Also all these bodily lusts doesn't sound very spiritual, in the way some say our body is just material.
I asked what do women get, and was told the same husband as before, but have to share them with the houris, but are slightly more important.

@SusieLawson I think that’s disgusting what I’m reading about this. I’ve also heard similar in terms of when the man goes to heaven he will be welcomed with 7 virgins! It’s disgusting how women are treated.