Admitting to killing his sister and getting away with it

[SouthernFashionista]

I could weep after reading this. But mostly I’m just angry. How in gods name has this happened? I know some don’t like DM links but the facts are that a man punched his sister in the head, killing her, and admitted doing so yet will face no charges. Sickening.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13664507/Girl-11-died-punched-heat-moment-half-brother-not-face-charges.html

But even then, couldn't he be prosecuted for assault, grievous bodily harm or something? Sounds like he's got away scot free here.

Exactly he admitted to punching a child in the head! Piece of shit.

@BakeOffRewatch I had that case in mind when I read about this one. Apparently their court case starts on September 2nd

I'd hazard a guess at all the adult males in that family being abusive and the women too scared to speak out.

Neither were all the grooming gangs, but when it comes to girls being abused, the police are suddenly terrified of being called racist. Priorities I guess.

I hope that Jess Phillips MP, Labour's new minister appointed to tackle violence against women and children, and domestic violence, investigates this truly appalling case. RIP Falaq.

And that's what's happening on this thread.

The point is people using the killing of a little girl to point score against Muslims.

It's a sexist thing. If she'd have killed him she'd have been banged up forever, branded as a man hater, but because he killed her, she was nothing.

Makes the blood boil!

I'm not doing the same, read the posts and don't be disingenuous.

They can say no if they think it will traumatise the little children.a confession is not enough, especially from someone sent at a time they were probably in shock.
Furthermore it sounds as if there is doubt as to the cause of death.why was the girl screaming? Maybe she was suffering a brain haemorrhage for example?

She was in the bathroom screaming her head off apparently...well I wonder why?! No doubt he was regularly an abusive arsehole, potentially a perv too and she was trying to escape him

These were my thoughts, she and her younger siblings were in a locked bathroom. Poor love the terror they must have gone through.

The family are disgusting for closing ranks to support the abuser (probably to protect their reputation as well). SS need to be all over this dysfunctional family.

I think it’s about the fact that domestic abuse is generally well hidden and in minority communities it’s even more difficult to detect. The woman I was listening to had social services at her house when she was a kid and the translator they sent told her parents she needed to be married off quickly as once she was 16 she could do what she wanted. She talked extensively about the conspiracy of silence around abuse of women and girls. The UK wouldn’t have had to legislate against forced marriages and FGM is it weren’t actually a problem. I remember the advice to stick a spoon in your knickers if you are being taken to the airport and you suspect you are going to be married off. Depressed the shit out of me.

I’m not sure it’s racism when you are stating the truth. I worry that by saying “you can’t say that’s racist so lets just ignore that” leaves women and girls in shitty situations. If a community has a very big problem with how it views women and girls then we should be able to talk about that. I’m asian myself, I care about women and I care about girls. The menz can take care of themselves. Race was identified as a factor in ignoring the grooming of children, thats why theres a question mark over this.

They get an 83% conviction rate.

That's not a good thing

Very well said, unfortunately girls and women have no voice in some communities. I wonder if the female family members were too scared to speak up, they may have experienced violence as well.

Sick to death of people getting accused of racism when they dare mention the treatment of young women in certain communities . This is precisely what is wrong here. It is not racism, it's FACT.
See @Chickenuggetsticks post. She puts it more eloquently than i ever could.

@Chickenuggetsticks fair enough. That's your experience and you've a right to your opinions but I've seen something a lot different. I have friends and family in the Muslim community and they think the grooming gangs are despicable and have no place in society. No way would they ever think it was the child's fault.
But then I guess Muslim communities are as diverse as other communities.

I've also been harassed and even while in school uniform as a teenager from idiots from all backgrounds. Sometimes pretty aggressively but I never reported it, assuming no one would take it seriously.

I think there's just a lack of justice when it comes to young victims, especially in terms of grooming and sexual abuse. Saville got away with it pretty openly. Lots of people reported him and nothing got done. Epsteins client list? Prince Andrew? Who knows who else.
I just can't believe that fear of racism is an excuse. I bet their not worried about racism when they arrest Asians for other reasons.
It's just odd.

What a horrific incident. The description of the extensive damage caused by the bathroom door speaks of angry, male, violence. The poor child must have been terrified.

We need to remember that male violence exists across all communities and cultures.

This is what happens when sons are treated as Prince's and daughters as a burden.

The laws need to change here.

The family clearly closed rank to protect the son. The police, having reasonable belief that the minor children were witnesses, should have been allowed to interview them with some sort of responsible adult present to ensure their wellbeing (a social worker or child psychologist perhaps?).

If the police had reasonable suspicion that an adult was being abused by their partner, they could take action even if the victim didn't want to proceed. Why is it different when there are kids involved? It's even worse when there are kids involved; young children have zero chance of defending themselves/getting out.

I'm angry with the system.

Many parents would instinctively want to stop their children from going to jail, but you can blame the system for not letting the police intervene and get the conviction anyway.

I hope social workers are watching this family and are ready to take away all the minor children at the first opportunity. Their parents clearly don't care about keeping them safe, only about avoiding public shame.

Girls deserve better.

Of couse it was satire.

Horrific. That poor girl and her poor siblings.

How could there not be a conviction, at least of assault, when he had confessed in writing to having punched her?

*diktat *

the difference is that in those tragic cases you mentioned there were one or two evil perpetrators.
however, there was no other family members covering it up, lying to police and refusing to let anybody be questioned.

this is yet another case of an Asian family whose son take precedence over their daughter.
you are right that it’s not always Muslims but it is most often south asians.

What annoyed me was I saw a video online that my DD showed me on their phone yesterday after that being on TV

A young white woman, walking through town at midday. In jeans and top.

Was accosted by a guy on a bike. She ignored him but he wouldn't leave her alone. She then said "no thank you, I'm not interested", so not being rude or swearing.

He still didn't listen. So she said she had a boyfriend. He said he didn't care. Asked for her Instagram name (of all things) so she said no and she would just block him anyway.

At that point he got angry. Started swearing and threatening her and then said he would kill her for being ignorant and she better come with him now. All in perfect English.

She went into a shop and asked for help. They pushed her to call police. Police did nothing but gave her a crime number and said someone would be in touch.

When 3 days went past and no contact she called. Told they had closed the case. She said she had it all on camera, why have you not called to collect the evidence? She had a clear image of him and clear audio.

According to who she spoke to it was pointless as "he probably doesn't understand the language" and didn't "mean what he said" when he threatened her.

How is that acceptable?

And yes, Andrew Tate is a vile shit of a man. But you can't pick one scapegoat because you're too scared to say about situations where individuals don't understand that that behaviour isn't acceptable in the UK being a huge issue.

We won't deal with the huge numbers of incidents unless we deal with some sectors of society having a male attitude that women are lesser. And cases like this do not help.

Imagine being a Muslim female who is being abused or threatened and you read that. You wouldn't bother asking for help would you?

I've seen others suggest that when police do take action that situations like Leeds happen, but why are we allowing violent behaviour stop our agencies from protecting women and girls? It's an excuse because the police know that very few from any sector have respect for them or their Authority.