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Admitting to killing his sister and getting away with it

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SouthernFashionista · 23/07/2024 22:29

I could weep after reading this. But mostly I’m just angry. How in gods name has this happened? I know some don’t like DM links but the facts are that a man punched his sister in the head, killing her, and admitted doing so yet will face no charges. Sickening.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13664507/Girl-11-died-punched-heat-moment-half-brother-not-face-charges.html

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Flozle · 25/07/2024 19:06

T1Dmama · 24/07/2024 04:35

SOMEONE PLEASE START A PETITION!!

Or you could do it?

VickyPollard25 · 25/07/2024 19:24

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 23/07/2024 22:32

Seems the CPS were doubtful there was any chance of any sort of conviction, which renders charging him with anything a bit pointless.

Not it doesn’t render charging him pointless. Charging him is something. A trial is something.

VickyPollard25 · 25/07/2024 19:26

What kind of monster punches a little girl? How is this OK? I despair at this too OP. I hope he rots in hell.

As for the girlfriend- do not have children with this piece of shit.

VickyPollard25 · 25/07/2024 19:28

Naddd · 24/07/2024 11:33

No they are not.

Take your Islamophobia elsewhere.

Judging a religion by the actions of one man!

When a girl is born she opens a door to Heaven for her father.
When she marries she completes half her husbands religion.
When she becomes a mother heaven lies at her feet.

That is the status of females in Islam

Is that the way Islamic men see white woken too? Genuine question

VickyPollard25 · 25/07/2024 19:30

TemuSpecialBuy · 25/07/2024 02:36

Here is the 23 old “man” Suhail Mohammed, who is responsible for Falaq’s death, having a smile and a laugh outside Rochdale Coroners Court.

Words fail me.

This is why we see vigilantes. When there is absolute injustice and child murderers laugh in the street.

Clearly to him this girl was disposable. His own sister.

Biancobianca · 25/07/2024 19:36

Surely social services are involved. Deeply disturbing.

Dibbydoos · 25/07/2024 19:38

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 23/07/2024 22:32

Seems the CPS were doubtful there was any chance of any sort of conviction, which renders charging him with anything a bit pointless.

He assaulted his 11 yo sister. She then died. He should be done. CPS are wrong.

Asian men cant continue to go about abusing females. It has to end esp given what has happened in Rochdale in the past...

biscuitandcake · 25/07/2024 19:38

I appreciate they are different cases, but Lucy Letby's private diary entries where she wrote both that she killed the babies, and that she didn't were considered evidence - and weren't dismissed as likely just the catastrophising of a distressed person.
But the brother's text message to another person, in which he not only said it was his fault but outlined precisely how and why (I punched her) aren't enough evidence because they could just be catastrophising.

Mexicansky · 25/07/2024 19:55

I find this worrying. You are all making decisions on a prosecution after reading an article in the daily Mail. Do you think the media always get it right and report the full facts?
do you not think the CPS might have had access to a full file of evidence and more than the daily mail print?

it’s amazing how quick people are to condemn decisions made when they have no idea what the evidence is.

askmenow · 25/07/2024 20:42

BlackShuck3 · 24/07/2024 00:02

The males of the family closing ranks and covering each others backs. They want to make sure they can carry on treating women girls like rubbish so that they can never be a threat to male dominance.
How can this stand up? Dont we have laws in our country, arent we supposed to be civilised. Why do we tolerate this primitive tribal mindset?

Hear hear 👏👏👏 Women need to WAKE UP at the undercurrent threats present now and the future ahead for us.

hattie43 · 25/07/2024 20:54

I've just finished watching Honour on Netflix and find this story heartbreaking, poor little girl . Something has to be done .

askmenow · 25/07/2024 20:55

Naddd · 24/07/2024 11:33

No they are not.

Take your Islamophobia elsewhere.

Judging a religion by the actions of one man!

When a girl is born she opens a door to Heaven for her father.
When she marries she completes half her husbands religion.
When she becomes a mother heaven lies at her feet.

That is the status of females in Islam

RUBBISH! Islamic culture subjugates women. They are always "lesser than" their brothers.
Midwifery on the district provides ample evidence.

prh47bridge · 25/07/2024 21:12

Dibbydoos · 25/07/2024 19:38

He assaulted his 11 yo sister. She then died. He should be done. CPS are wrong.

Asian men cant continue to go about abusing females. It has to end esp given what has happened in Rochdale in the past...

On the evidence presented so far to the inquest, the CPS is right. See my post at 09:40 that sets out the evidence presented yesterday.

Brighteyes2368 · 25/07/2024 21:30

SouthernFashionista · 23/07/2024 22:29

I could weep after reading this. But mostly I’m just angry. How in gods name has this happened? I know some don’t like DM links but the facts are that a man punched his sister in the head, killing her, and admitted doing so yet will face no charges. Sickening.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13664507/Girl-11-died-punched-heat-moment-half-brother-not-face-charges.html

I hate to say it, but it's likely he was trying to do something sexual to her, she fought it, and THEN he punched her. The parents may have even encouraged an inappropriate relationship. It would explain why the parents refuse to let the younger siblings be interviewed.

Brighteyes2368 · 25/07/2024 21:52

Chester23 · 24/07/2024 07:15

This makes no sense to me. Why would it matter if they think there was a medical condition?

Where I live someone hit someone. He ended up in hospital and he had a known medical condition. They guy that hit him admitted to hitting him. Unfortunately this guy passed away in hospital. The charge was changed to manslaughter and he's in prison.

Is this not the same situation but it's a child?

It's likely strikingly similar, except extremist Muslims tend to get away with things like this. Extremist Muslim girls and women get murdered, usually after being raped, and usually nobody gets charged. It's a sad world we live in.

BlueFlowers5 · 25/07/2024 22:43

Violence against women and girls is completely unchallenged.

biscuitandcake · 26/07/2024 00:15

Bromptotoo · 25/07/2024 12:47

The reason I'm not happy about taking a Daily Mail link as the truth, the whole truth etc is that long experience tells me it delights in 'making' scandal where one may not exist. It particularly likes doing that where the scandal can be portrayed as a failing by 'the authorities'.

It also plays fast/loose with facts.

A prime example of that was around ten years ago where a section of road accessing a development in Bedfordshire that had a 'No Motor Vehicle Except Buses' restriction was changed to a bus lane. The intention was that the drivers disregarding the restriction could be caught on camera and fined.

Unless you though there was more than met the eye and used Streetview you'd have thought all the people pictured with Penalties and wearing 'compo faces' were properly caught out by something dropped out of a clear sky onto an unrestricted road.

If you Google the girls name you can find a bit more about the case including the fact that the inquest was adjourned last year for the Police to make further inquiries into the Brother's account.

I'm not saying he is not a baddun.. However, unless the Prosecution can get a jury to be so certain they are sure that (a) he actually deliberately punched her and that (b) there was a causal link between the punch and the girl's death then the jury will not be convinced and he'll be acquitted.

Edited

I agree sometimes the Daily Mail can be quite destructive. It does love a scandal/salacious headline. But somethings are scandals, and should provoke public outrage. Just because its in the Daily Mail doesn't mean its not outrageous.

biscuitandcake · 26/07/2024 00:17

eg

Admitting to killing his sister and getting away with it
Savemydrink · 26/07/2024 00:43

So, I was just thinking, if the younger siblings were interviewed by police, I'm assuming one of the parents would be present at the interview. Now imagine they said they witnessed their brother punch their sister, who then collapsed and died.

Now the younger kids have to go home with these "parents" who will probably blame the kids for "ratting" on their older brother.

See the problem here, not only are the parents angry but so is the brother. Now, who will protect those kids from this awful family.

As we saw in Leeds last week, removing kids from a dangerous environment is. not so simple. Poor dead girl can't be helped, the traumatised younger kids can't be helped and the cycle continues.

Massive cultural problems here, much easier to say "oh well" let's leave it at that.

Just like they did with the grooming gangs

prh47bridge · 26/07/2024 00:50

biscuitandcake · 26/07/2024 00:15

I agree sometimes the Daily Mail can be quite destructive. It does love a scandal/salacious headline. But somethings are scandals, and should provoke public outrage. Just because its in the Daily Mail doesn't mean its not outrageous.

In this case, the Daily Mail is going well beyond the bounds of anything I would regard as acceptable reporting. Yesterday, their headline described the brother as "smirking", which had absolutely nothing to do with the report underneath. Today their headline clearly and unambiguously sets out to deliberately misrepresent the evidence. The headline says, "'No doubt' punch thrown by older half-brother of 11-year-old girl in 'heat of the moment' caused her fatal brain injury, inquest hears", but that was not the evidence. The evidence was that a punch could have caused the fatal injury, not that it did. As with the doctors who gave evidence on Wednesday, the pathologists giving evidence on Thursday were clear that Falaq's death could have been entirely unrelated to anything her brother did.

mommatoone · 26/07/2024 02:14

Savemydrink · 26/07/2024 00:43

So, I was just thinking, if the younger siblings were interviewed by police, I'm assuming one of the parents would be present at the interview. Now imagine they said they witnessed their brother punch their sister, who then collapsed and died.

Now the younger kids have to go home with these "parents" who will probably blame the kids for "ratting" on their older brother.

See the problem here, not only are the parents angry but so is the brother. Now, who will protect those kids from this awful family.

As we saw in Leeds last week, removing kids from a dangerous environment is. not so simple. Poor dead girl can't be helped, the traumatised younger kids can't be helped and the cycle continues.

Massive cultural problems here, much easier to say "oh well" let's leave it at that.

Just like they did with the grooming gangs

Totally agree with what you have written. But in cases like this (domestic related) it's likely that the children would have an independent appropriate adult present at their intervals to avoid any conflict of interest.

bluewanda · 26/07/2024 04:00

This is absolutely shocking. And at the same time, we have this (from Bryony Gordon in the Mail):

On Tuesday, the National Police Chiefs' Council published a harrowing report that said violence against women and girls was now at such 'staggering' levels it can be described only as a 'national emergency', posing as much of a threat to society as terrorism.

It’s not surprising that violence against women and girls has reached these levels when men are simply allowed to get away with it, is it?

Savemydrink · 26/07/2024 05:23

mommatoone · 26/07/2024 02:14

Totally agree with what you have written. But in cases like this (domestic related) it's likely that the children would have an independent appropriate adult present at their intervals to avoid any conflict of interest.

Yes, and that is probably why the parents would not allow them to be interviewed. They could not control the narrative if they were not present.
Poor kids have no doubt been instructed to keep their mouths shut.

VickyPollard25 · 26/07/2024 05:34

whyisntanelephantblue · 23/07/2024 23:46

@AliceMcK I fucking hope that was satire. if not you're gonna get flamed on here

A child has died. You should SERIOUSLY be looked into

It’s obviously sarcasm.

VickyPollard25 · 26/07/2024 05:36

timenowplease · 24/07/2024 11:40

Nonsense and you know it. Empty words.

Thank you @timenowplease. It is obviously a load of crap.