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Husband’s secret life

145 replies

melodia7 · 23/07/2024 02:10

I went through DH’s phone the other day and found some messages with another woman where they had communicated for about 5 days straight.

I confronted him about it and firstly he got annoyed that I went through his phone again and that is why he never leaves it lying around because he says without fail if I see it I will try and find something to get upset about.

There wasn’t much to the messages. One day DH sent her a ‘wakey wakey’ message in the morning. Another day the lady expressed she had her divorce finalisation and DH said they should celebrate with a vegan wrap. He used some smiley faces but they were not usually reciprocated.

When I confronted DH, he said that they connected late last year when they were in the same company that was going through a tough time and a number of coworkers had left and they decided to brainstorm some side hustles as a backup plan. I remember him floating some of these ideas to me last year. DH has since left the company but their office is close by so they occasionally meet up (monthly). He said the vegan wrap is a takeaway place they go for lunch sometimes. He said he bumped into one of our mutual friends last time he was there. He said he mentioned celebrating the divorce closure with a wrap to try and lighten her mood, though I found it insensitive.

DH is the type who doesn’t have many guy friends and generally finds it easier to get close to females. He is quite a gentle person.

I am upset because I found these messages with a woman who I’ve never met or heard about. DH said he has previously casually invited the woman to our area so we can all meet since she has a child of the same age as ours, but it has never happened as they are quite far away. He also said he hasn’t really discussed her with me because he didn’t find it particularly significant.

I feel like he has a whole secret life when he goes to work that I know nothing about.

AIBU?

OP posts:
Vergus · 23/07/2024 12:13

I would also not like the "wakey wakey" message. That's also too familiar. Stamp on this now because I think he runs the risk of becoming interested

Namechange1892 · 23/07/2024 12:14

Vergus · 23/07/2024 12:07

Why did she feel the need to tell him about her divorce being finalised? Why should he care a jot? I would be pissed off if I saw another woman had messaged my DH this. It's too personal. So now he has a lady friend you knew nothing about who has just become "free" and she is desperate to make him aware of that fact. Oh good. I'd be tempted to message her back and tell her to stuff her divorce paperwork up her ass but I'm probably a bit more assertive (and possessive) than most.

Presumably because they’re friends and it’s the sort of thing you mention to friends? Jeez.

Vergus · 23/07/2024 12:18

@Namechange1892

Well she's the sort of "friend" he could do without. Clearly.

CaribouCarafe · 23/07/2024 13:08

Are "assertive" and "possessive" synonyms for "demented" 😅

Gosh I'd lose all respect for my husband if he tried to "stamp on" a friendship I had with someone.

Suzieandthemonkeyfeet · 23/07/2024 14:41

CaribouCarafe · 23/07/2024 13:08

Are "assertive" and "possessive" synonyms for "demented" 😅

Gosh I'd lose all respect for my husband if he tried to "stamp on" a friendship I had with someone.

Edited

Does your husband send good morning messages to women? If so you’re ok with that?

CaribouCarafe · 23/07/2024 14:47

Suzieandthemonkeyfeet · 23/07/2024 14:41

Does your husband send good morning messages to women? If so you’re ok with that?

I don't know and I wouldn't care, he has a number of close female friends (some of them even exes gasp). It wouldn't bother me.

I also have close male friends, some of whom I have sent good morning messages to - often when I know they're struggling and I'm checking in with them.

The point is, we trust each other.

Queenofthestress · 23/07/2024 17:05

Jesus christ, some of these responses are demented and you, OP, need to go to work more because clearly he was right and you have unreasonable suspicions. He has a seperate life without you at work - that is what going to work is. You are not going to know absolutely everyone he talks to at work, you are not going to know what he does every day, because he's at work and that is a seperate life to outside of the family home. There is absolutely nothing in those messages that mean either of them want to get their rocks off, infact, a vegan wrap is most likely the least sexiest thing he could have messaged her...

Bloody hell, you either trust the bloke or not, if not, get a divorce.
If you don't want to divorce, build a bridge and get over it.

Icantpaint · 23/07/2024 18:39

JudgeJ · 23/07/2024 11:16

Oh, the MN hypocrisy! A few weeks ago another thread had a woman screeching about her husband seeing messages on her phone that led him the mistrust her and apparently he wasn't wrong. However the reaction was that he had been wrong to look at her phone. Make your minds up ladies.

Yep
that thread he checked and found something and he was in the wrong, abusive and she should leave

this one she checks and find nothing and he’s in the wrong, cheating, and she should leave

melodia7 · 23/07/2024 18:40

MissUltraViolet · 23/07/2024 10:15

Any more context on the 'wakey wakey'? did they have a conversation after it? Was it the morning after a late meeting at work, or a party or something?

Other than that, this sounds less like a secret life and just normal chat between friends/colleagues.

It was at 8:52am. Something like ‘wakey wakey. So tired wish I could wfh sometimes’ and she replied later ‘haha I was actually still in bed at that time’

OP posts:
Catza · 23/07/2024 18:44

EI12 · 23/07/2024 10:41

Between men and women there is no friendship possible. There is passion, enmity, worship, love, but no friendship. Oscar W

I’m not aware of studies Mr Wilde was running to empirically prove his hypothesis. Just because he is famous, doesn’t make his opinion the absolute truth.

Catza · 23/07/2024 18:48

ntmdino · 23/07/2024 10:53

Let's just think about the direct implications of this whole "married men are not allowed to be friends with women" thing.

"Women, you are not allowed to be friends with married men, under any circumstances. You may speak to them at work, as long as you keep it strictly business, but no more than that unless there is a chaperone present."

Doesn't sound very good, does it?

And you must inform your husband of every interaction, no matter how small…

RainbowColouredRainbows · 23/07/2024 18:56

Vergus · 23/07/2024 12:07

Why did she feel the need to tell him about her divorce being finalised? Why should he care a jot? I would be pissed off if I saw another woman had messaged my DH this. It's too personal. So now he has a lady friend you knew nothing about who has just become "free" and she is desperate to make him aware of that fact. Oh good. I'd be tempted to message her back and tell her to stuff her divorce paperwork up her ass but I'm probably a bit more assertive (and possessive) than most.

I told my friends, male as well as female, when my divorce came through. I in no way shape or form wanted to sleep with any of them. Just because a marriage is all that defines you, doesn't mean that's the same for all women. Of course women tell their friends about massive life changing events. You sound a bit unhinged.

Bluebirdover · 23/07/2024 19:42

Vergus · 23/07/2024 12:07

Why did she feel the need to tell him about her divorce being finalised? Why should he care a jot? I would be pissed off if I saw another woman had messaged my DH this. It's too personal. So now he has a lady friend you knew nothing about who has just become "free" and she is desperate to make him aware of that fact. Oh good. I'd be tempted to message her back and tell her to stuff her divorce paperwork up her ass but I'm probably a bit more assertive (and possessive) than most.

If you were my partner and you did that! You'd be out on your ass you batshit crazy control freak!

Although I'd hazard a guess I would never have chosen you as a partner in the first place.

PerfectTravelTote · 23/07/2024 19:47

Bottom line, you don't trust him.

None of the rest of it matters.

LuvMyLyfe · 24/07/2024 01:22

You’re not being unreasonable at all! Don’t let these people gaslight you into accepting behavior that crosses certain boundaries—which, have you explicitly told him what your boundaries are? Have you told him what you consider crossing the line is?

If not then this is the perfect time to do so. It does already seem that you suspect something since you keep searching his phone, though. But perhaps set those boundaries and see what happens.

HelenTudorFisk · 24/07/2024 01:46

LuvMyLyfe · 24/07/2024 01:22

You’re not being unreasonable at all! Don’t let these people gaslight you into accepting behavior that crosses certain boundaries—which, have you explicitly told him what your boundaries are? Have you told him what you consider crossing the line is?

If not then this is the perfect time to do so. It does already seem that you suspect something since you keep searching his phone, though. But perhaps set those boundaries and see what happens.

If her ‘boundaries’ are that he is not allowed to have generic conversations about lunch with another woman he has worked with then those boundaries are inappropriate and controlling, and she is the problem.
interesting you think he’s violating her boundaries without any acknowledgment that it is absolutely disrespectful of his boundaries to go through his phone without consent.

BowlOfNoodles · 24/07/2024 01:53

Vegan wrap isn't giving flirty/sexy,/affairy to me

magicstar1 · 24/07/2024 11:36

melodia7 · 23/07/2024 18:40

It was at 8:52am. Something like ‘wakey wakey. So tired wish I could wfh sometimes’ and she replied later ‘haha I was actually still in bed at that time’

I don't see anything wrong with that message at all. Nothing flirty about it at all in my opinion.

Krumblina · 24/07/2024 11:42

LuvMyLyfe · 24/07/2024 01:22

You’re not being unreasonable at all! Don’t let these people gaslight you into accepting behavior that crosses certain boundaries—which, have you explicitly told him what your boundaries are? Have you told him what you consider crossing the line is?

If not then this is the perfect time to do so. It does already seem that you suspect something since you keep searching his phone, though. But perhaps set those boundaries and see what happens.

Do you know what gaslighting is?

Bluebirdover · 24/07/2024 12:49

LuvMyLyfe · 24/07/2024 01:22

You’re not being unreasonable at all! Don’t let these people gaslight you into accepting behavior that crosses certain boundaries—which, have you explicitly told him what your boundaries are? Have you told him what you consider crossing the line is?

If not then this is the perfect time to do so. It does already seem that you suspect something since you keep searching his phone, though. But perhaps set those boundaries and see what happens.

Who is gas lighting who?

DottyLottieLou · 26/07/2024 18:19

It all sounds perfectly innocent. You will drive him away with your mistrust.

Mamabear487 · 26/07/2024 18:27

You sound way to insecure

Victoriancat · 26/07/2024 18:52

Maybe he didn't tell you about his friend cos you act like this and say secret life when he's just having a vegan wrap 😂

Seriously get some therapy

WorriedMama12 · 26/07/2024 19:04

I'm quite distrustful of men due to past experiences. However on this occasion, it sounds pretty innocent.

beanii · 26/07/2024 19:33

You are being unreasonable.

Sounds exactly as he's explained to me.

The big issue here is you.

Why do you check his phone - it's invading his privacy.

Clearly you don't trust him as you wouldn't feel the need to check it.

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