Meet the Other Phone. A phone that grows with your child.

Meet the Other Phone.
A phone that grows with your child.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Smoking outside in populated public places.

380 replies

Readytoevolve · 22/07/2024 10:21

It was a beautiful day as I sat outside my local coffee shop with my 2 children, drinking smoothies and soaking up the sunshine.
Then BOOM, the table next to us lights up a cigarette and it blows our way.

The day before we were lining the streets for a tractor run…. We had a front view and the kids are at the front. Then BOOM, a man behind us lights up just as it’s beginning and is breathing the smoke down on us.

Why oh why is smoking allowed outside, and not just in designated smoking areas, where they can all sit and smoke together. It happens us all the time.

Yes they’re entitled to do it, but is it right? Hell no.

AIBU?

OP posts:
MikeRafone · 23/07/2024 14:45

It doesn't make it less vile when one stands next to me though.

go and stand else where or ask if they can stop, just asking - would you mind not smoking as its all blowing my way - they can of course say no - but they might say yes. If they get annoyed you just say - I only asked the question nicely please leave it there.

Dominoeffecter · 23/07/2024 14:46

I hate the expression ‘Folk’ please don’t expose me to your passive folking @Werweisswohin

Werweisswohin · 23/07/2024 14:46

Dominoeffecter · 23/07/2024 14:45

Just telling you how you are coming across, neither am I, I’m just not quite as ‘worked up’ as you 🤭 have a stinky fag and calm those nerves

You're telling me how you think it's coming across. That's not particularly meaningful.
Smoking is one of the most ridiculously stupid and selfish things a person can do. It's really quite funny the addicts suggesting other folk smoke, just showing how much it controls them. 🤣

HoorahhoorahTheyaregoingaway · 23/07/2024 14:47

Werweisswohin · 23/07/2024 13:54

The non-smoker didn't ask the stinking smokers to stand/sit right next to them either. And stop comparing farm vehicles to stinking cigarette smoke.

Why? You would probably inhale more fumes from those tractors than you would a cigarette!

Dominoeffecter · 23/07/2024 14:48

Werweisswohin · 23/07/2024 14:46

You're telling me how you think it's coming across. That's not particularly meaningful.
Smoking is one of the most ridiculously stupid and selfish things a person can do. It's really quite funny the addicts suggesting other folk smoke, just showing how much it controls them. 🤣

Edited

Nope, everyone knows your opinion, I’m neither a smoker or saying it’s not a valid one but yes you are coming over as worked up ☺️

Werweisswohin · 23/07/2024 14:48

HoorahhoorahTheyaregoingaway · 23/07/2024 14:47

Why? You would probably inhale more fumes from those tractors than you would a cigarette!

Eh?
Tractors have value. They are doing a job.
Smoking has no point.

InterIgnis · 23/07/2024 14:48

Werweisswohin · 23/07/2024 14:44

It's a problem for most people with any level of understanding regarding the effects of smoking.

And oh well to that too. Their approval isn’t required any more than yours is.

Werweisswohin · 23/07/2024 14:49

Dominoeffecter · 23/07/2024 14:48

Nope, everyone knows your opinion, I’m neither a smoker or saying it’s not a valid one but yes you are coming over as worked up ☺️

Sure.
Having a valid view is 'worked up'. 🤔
Tschüss.

Werweisswohin · 23/07/2024 14:50

InterIgnis · 23/07/2024 14:48

And oh well to that too. Their approval isn’t required any more than yours is.

Eh?
😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫

Dominoeffecter · 23/07/2024 14:50

Werweisswohin · 23/07/2024 14:49

Sure.
Having a valid view is 'worked up'. 🤔
Tschüss.

It’s just the going on and on in the same vein, accusing anyone who is a bit more balanced of being a smoker 😁

InterIgnis · 23/07/2024 14:51

Werweisswohin · 23/07/2024 14:50

Eh?
😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫

You and they can have a problem as much as you like. You can rant about selfishness and whatever as much as you like - that isn’t anyone else’s problem. Whether you approve or not of someone smoking where they legally are entitled to do so, is irrelevant and not something anyone is required to take the slightest bit of notice of.

Werweisswohin · 23/07/2024 14:52

Dominoeffecter · 23/07/2024 14:50

It’s just the going on and on in the same vein, accusing anyone who is a bit more balanced of being a smoker 😁

Sure.

Werweisswohin · 23/07/2024 14:52

InterIgnis · 23/07/2024 14:51

You and they can have a problem as much as you like. You can rant about selfishness and whatever as much as you like - that isn’t anyone else’s problem. Whether you approve or not of someone smoking where they legally are entitled to do so, is irrelevant and not something anyone is required to take the slightest bit of notice of.

Sure.

Dominoeffecter · 23/07/2024 14:53

Werweisswohin · 23/07/2024 14:52

Sure.

Another valid point 😉

Dominoeffecter · 23/07/2024 14:54

<stampsfoot> WHATEVA

ClaudiaWankleman · 23/07/2024 14:59

Werweisswohin · 23/07/2024 14:42

Have you not read the OP?

Yes, have you? Cafes and streets exist everywhere.

ObelixtheGaul · 23/07/2024 15:03

@blossom @Greencustard (sorry it says at Blossom, I pressed the wrong name and can't get rid of it). I have tried not to vape in case I just replace one thing for another, but will look into vaping salts, thank you.

Threewordseightletters · 23/07/2024 15:18

I cannot wait for there to be more restrictions on smoking. Both second and third hand smoke provoke allergic reactions and I find the smell really nauseating. (It's got worse since peri so might be hormonal!) Very pleased new government is planning to increase the age people can buy cigarettes legally by a year each year until it is eventually illegal.

PenguinCounter · 23/07/2024 16:01

@Threewordseightletters I don't think it will have the effect you're hoping for.

Weed is a class b drug and people still smoke it in public

Nitrous is class C and I saw people using it in broad daylight at a policed town festival last weekend

Then there's also the cocaine regularly being used in pubs and clubs...

Though I do look forward to the day an adult has to ask another adult to buy them cigarettes

MeouwCat · 23/07/2024 16:33

Greencustard · 23/07/2024 14:45

Nicotine vaping salts got me off the cigs without even really trying. I was a smoker for a loooooong time and was dreading quitting but it really was quite easy. I had tried the older type vapes with no success at all, these salt liquids are amazing. I started at 20mg, now down to 11mg so next step is down to 5mg.

Still a practising nicotine addict, then.

Greencustard · 23/07/2024 17:04

MeouwCat · 23/07/2024 16:33

Still a practising nicotine addict, then.

Where did I say I wasn't? Do you think that's a gotcha? The clue was in my own words 'nicotine vaping salts'😂Did you honestly think I didn't know what I was vaping? Serious question. Did you think you knew and I didn't?

Werweisswohin · 23/07/2024 17:24

MikeRafone · 23/07/2024 14:45

It doesn't make it less vile when one stands next to me though.

go and stand else where or ask if they can stop, just asking - would you mind not smoking as its all blowing my way - they can of course say no - but they might say yes. If they get annoyed you just say - I only asked the question nicely please leave it there.

If I'm in a queue I can't stand elsewhere.

Bunnyasmyname · 23/07/2024 17:54

Werweisswohin · 23/07/2024 14:46

You're telling me how you think it's coming across. That's not particularly meaningful.
Smoking is one of the most ridiculously stupid and selfish things a person can do. It's really quite funny the addicts suggesting other folk smoke, just showing how much it controls them. 🤣

Edited

I have to agree with @Dominoeffecter

Just because MN is full of the terminally offended, doesn't mean they are in the right!

Werweisswohin · 23/07/2024 18:38

Bunnyasmyname · 23/07/2024 17:54

I have to agree with @Dominoeffecter

Just because MN is full of the terminally offended, doesn't mean they are in the right!

Good for you.
Not liking cigarette smoke does not equate to 'terminally offended', but sure, you jump to whatever conclusion makes you feel best.
Next.

mummyrolling2014 · 24/07/2024 00:17

As an ex smoker yes smoking is disgusting and unhealthy and agree with where it should be done but don't wish there was a line drawn with the instant discrimination or judgement on smokers in general. When I was a smoker I was very private that no one outside my close circle knew I smoked. This was because I knew I would be instantly judged as a bad person by many. Those who found out were so shocked because I appear quite prim and proper, am always working out at the gym, and have a very 'respectable' job. To answer your question no you're not being unfair as I was very conscious not to smoke near anyone so but I know others are more addicted than I was. I was lucky I could control it and wait until I was alone. However, I don't get drunk or shout on the streets. I'm extremely polite and help out the local community. I don't cheat or hurt people and go out of my way to be kind to everyone - and yes I was the same as a smoker. But all this gets completely lost if some see you lighting up a cigarette.