coach driver had to swear at and threaten school children to make them put seat belts on

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AIBU to think these kids need a little bit more of this plain speaking in their lives! If I had been that driver, I would simply have refused to drive them home, and just left them there. Poor guy had no choice but to make them behave, or not drive them as they were unsafe.

I imagine it has done them the world of good to hear what people actually think of them. I can't think why the school is complaining, rather than thanking him

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ced3z8kx9eqo

Well most schools seem to manage it!
On all the trips I have been on, we have never had any child behave like this. If a school knows a child is not going to follow the rules, don't put them on a coach and potentially risk people's lives. It's not rocket science. For any residential trips, students and parents have to sign a behaviour contract, included in that is parents committing to coming to collect their child if they are too unwell to continue the trip or are not following the rules.

If you think that losing control and your temper is an effective way to manage behaviour, you obviously don't work with young people. Or if you do, you should work somewhere else!

The point is that it was the driver - landed with a bad bunch and needing to get them back -all this advice on how it should be handled is pointless for him - I’m pretty sure he’ll walk into another job - there’s a shortage of bus drivers.

He was a damn sight more effective than the 7 teachers also present.

His licence on the line.

Absolutely support the driver. A couple of clips round the ear would have worked as well.

Who the fuck wants to put up with this? Bunch of little cunts.

I hope he does get another job.
I don't agree with what he did but I can totally understand why he did it.
I had a child tell me to fuck off last week.
The kids on the bus were smoking, back chatting, littering and unsafe, bordering on feral. The school should be squirming.
The bus driver shouldn't have had to resort to that and should have had staff dealing with it or backing him up.
He has my sympathies and has said what many staff and children themselves were probably thinking. It doesn't make it okay but anyone working with truculent teenagers will know what triggered it.

It is not just the children of parents who threaten them that play up. The worst cocky entitled little shits are the ones whose mummy has never told them off treats 14 year olds like they are 3.

Not all teens are acting out because of trauma or being spoilt. Most are acting out to show off to their mates as they are pretending to be "top Gs" or "Sigmas". Tribal.
All filmed of course.

He's in the right area to try for the 12/12A bus route between Eastbourne to Brighton along the coast road. The most outstanding views, and a dream job.

He'd be very very very lucky to get this as I believe there is a waiting list to get this gig, it's really that wanted

I think he may get 15 minutes of fame from this

and many people will empathise

I think the fact there were 7 teachers on a day trip indicates they were expecting some disruption.

70 years ago, if my dad had been threatened like this , his dad would told him it was his own fault for acting like a twat and hit him. Kids behaved better 70 years ago.

I feel sorry the driver.

He's probably an ordinary working man who woke up on that day and went to work to earn money to keep his family.

Through pure bad luck he ended up with a coach full of ferel cunts and a bunch of teachers who seemed to have walked away from their responsibilities and dumped their job on him. A job he had no chance at.

He's now lost his job.

The school has lodged a formal complaint with the coach company.

I think the coach company should lodge a formal complaint with the school.

His behaviour was completely inappropriate.
Yes, stop the coach/ask for parents to be called to collect/telephone the head of the school etc. But shouting/swearing/physical threats are an absolute no!

I do think though, given the teachers on the bus were doing not a lot to manage behaviour that there is a fundamental problem with behaviour at that school.

I teach in a secondary- we take our kids out, in full year groups, on buses/walking. They behave! Because we insist on good behaviour in school and don't compromise on high standards. Unfortunately, not all schools are like that.

He may have had another job to have go on to. He may have had to get home on time to pick his own kids up from school.
He may have been close to his maximum hours.

Just saying stop and wait for a few hours is stupid.

He was inappropriate, definitely. It's unnaceptable to shout swear and threaten children.

However, I teach secondary and I think many people would be horrified by teen behaviour.

They should have put their belts on sooner.

He was out of line of course. I am guessing the teachers were dealing but he then decided to take matters into his own hands. Teachers probably didn't want to get into a fight with the driver in front of the students. I am also struck that yet again parents show their utter contempt for the school by getting a video from their child and sending it to the media. Genuine concern about the behaviour would have been to show the video to the school who likely already knew and had already complained.

Simply not true. The teachers could simply have asked the driver to stop and told the pupils that the coach wasn't moving until they behaved.

You've never read official discipline guidance, have you? Time to move on from the tabloids.

How do you know? Self-evidently, you weren't there.

It's all very well having a go at the driver but imagine if he'd had an accident and some of the kids got hurt or worse? Everyone would be up in arms demanding to know why he didn't make the kids buckle up.

Yeah I agree with you op. They're teenagers not children like other posters are saying they're not getting PTSD from someone actually giving it back. Smoking on a bus wtf I would of gone mental too. These kids think they can take the piss these days and no one can do anything

I don't actually think kids DID behave better 70 years ago. But fewer kids were in education. The ones in education might have behaved better.

Doesn't it say it was 4 hour journey? Imagine that behaviour for all that time ? It wouldn't be safe to drive with kids getting up out of seats, smoking,swearing possibly fighting. I work in a primary school and the behaviour is getting out of control. The local secondary schools near where I live have huge behaviour problems. Especially on the buses travelling to and from school. If that happened near where I live, and the teachers told the coach driver to pull over until they behave, they'd be there all night. Also if you asked a child to get off and he/she says no and swears at you what would you do? How would you get them to listen? There's a serious problem with behaviour in schools (certain uk areas) a lot of it comes down to parenting.

Yep, I agree with you OP. I always told my DS that if he behaves like a brat then expect to get treated like one.