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To be annoyed that I get glared at for having a blue badge

335 replies

Sparklebelle1024 · 17/07/2024 19:34

I try not to let it bother me but I’m young ( 35) and I have a blue badge because I have a few health problems which put me into the category of disabled and entitle me to pip and a blue badge. I do work (only part time as that’s a struggle but I do it for my own mental health but I think even that might have to go soon but I’m trying to last as long as I can) and almost every time I pull my car into the disabled spaces I get dirty looks and “badge checked” by the older generation and it’s ALWAYS older people !! It’s like younger folk can’t have disabilities!! Yet I can literally go from being okayish one day to hospitalised the next (I have a very understanding manager) and my car is a lifeline. I do try to brush it off but today I had a run in with an older man and he asked to see the photo on my badge to prove it was mine, I obviously told him he’s not entitled to that information and it’s not an elderly badge it’s a disabled badge and I cried when I was driving home.
it’s not fair…. I’m sick of being judged because I’m not “old” and don’t “look disabled” whatever that should look like. I know it shouldn’t bother me but it really genuinely does. So AIBU to be annoyed at being judged by the older generation because I use a badge I’m legally entitled to??

OP posts:
ibelieveshereallyistgedevil · 18/07/2024 11:05

TimeandMotion · 18/07/2024 10:58

Bloody hell. HE ONLY ASKS IF HE CAN’T SEE THE BADGE!

Well he should know better than to harass other disabled people- he has no entitlement to their medical details, and no greater right to a space than any other bb holder.

EnglishBluebell · 18/07/2024 11:05

greengallbladder · 17/07/2024 20:30

Agree 100% OP I get judged as I'm a 'young' blue badge holder WITH a baby in tow. You can imagine the looks / badge checks / eye rolls / comments that attracts Envy

FWIW my pregnancy caused me permanent issues which then led to me being awarded a blue badge

I'm the same. When DD was a baby I got daily abuse and was once hit with a walking stick and had my photo put on Facebook alongside false accusations of badge theft

LadyKenya · 18/07/2024 11:08

ibelieveshereallyistgedevil · 18/07/2024 11:05

Well he should know better than to harass other disabled people- he has no entitlement to their medical details, and no greater right to a space than any other bb holder.

This.

ibelieveshereallyistgedevil · 18/07/2024 11:08

EnglishBluebell · 18/07/2024 11:05

I'm the same. When DD was a baby I got daily abuse and was once hit with a walking stick and had my photo put on Facebook alongside false accusations of badge theft

It’s disgusting isn’t it.

Im a disabled woman with a disabled child- I apparently should never have reproduced 🤷‍♀️.

TimeandMotion · 18/07/2024 11:11

ibelieveshereallyistgedevil · 18/07/2024 11:02

No.

Use your eyes and look for the bb if you must be a busybody- if you asked me you would be told in no uncertain terms where to go. You have no entitlement to anyone’s medical information and it’s frankly laughable that you think you do.

How many times do I have to explain this.

Parking space is perpendicular to the road. You drive up to the car, your nose is where the boot of the parked car is. You see someone get out. You cannot see their windscreen from where you are. They look able bodied. You roll down your window and say “excuse me, do you realise that’s a BB space?”. They say “yes, I have a Blue badge” and you drive off to wait elsewhere til a BB comes free, or something along the lines of “”I’m just nipping in” at which point you explain that you have a BB and they either apologise and move or tell you to fuck off.

LadyKenya · 18/07/2024 11:12

TimeandMotion · 18/07/2024 10:29

You’re not understanding.

The problem is people using relatives’ or stolen blue badges or using spaces without having any badge at all.

A disabled person pulling up in their car behind a car parked in a disabled space can’t see the badge displayed at the front.

If the occupant of the car gets out and is not visibly disabled, this means that they are more likely to not be entitled to use the space. It is obviously not conclusive proof.

Yes, many blue badge holders are not visibly disabled. However the vast majority of people who do not appear disabled are indeed not disabled. So it is perfectly fine to ask someone who does not appear disabled whether they have a blue badge, as long as it is done politely.

Believe me, the amount of “sorry mate I was just nipping in quickly, just let me move” responses he gets make it worthwhile.

Obviously the blue badge thieves/misusers will just say yes, and I am not suggesting that the questioner then check the badge in the manner of a traffic warden. But it might make them think twice about doing it again when they are challenged directly by someone who has a right to the space.

No, you are the one not understanding, and I can see from your subsequent posts, that fact remains the same. So I will take my leave from engaging with your posts.

TimeandMotion · 18/07/2024 11:12

ibelieveshereallyistgedevil · 18/07/2024 11:05

Well he should know better than to harass other disabled people- he has no entitlement to their medical details, and no greater right to a space than any other bb holder.

Please see my previous post. Nobody is being harassed and nobody is suggesting any pecking order between BB holders other than “first come, first served”.

EnglishBluebell · 18/07/2024 11:13

I also got screamed at by an elderly lady who said "How dare you take that space, I'm on Oxygen!" she knew I have a blue badge but decided she was more entitled to it. I said "I beg your pardon?! I have Parkinson's disease?!? I was there first, that's how it works, it's not top trumps"
She said "I don't care! I'm on oxygen so move your bloody car please"

I didn't.

Petitchat · 18/07/2024 11:18

TellMeWhoTheVillainsAre · 18/07/2024 10:52

The BB is a physical visual indicator that someone has permission to use a priority parking space. The only people parking in those spaces should display the physical visual indicator. This allows the general public and the warden to see that the person is entitled to park there. If someone asks then believe it or not THEY ARE looking out for the people who are entitled to use the space. By asking, they are by very definition making sure that the person parking there is entitled to be there!!

If you are entitled to park there then there's no problem. If you're not then you'll suffer the wrath of the little old dear who will give you an ear full for parking in a space you're not entitled to use.

I'd imagine there's a lot more people NOT entitled to use the spaces who are confronted by these passerbys. They ARE looking out for people entitled to use the space.

The same people are likely to check the windows of empty cars as they walk by and report it to the shop/warden etc if they see a car parked not displaying a badge. Again - looking out for the people who should have the use of the spaces

Edited

If you are entitled to park there then there's no problem.

Yes there is !!
You should be ashamed of yourself.

You could be questioning someone who has:
Anxiety.
Autism.
Severe breathlessness.
Extreme fatigue.
Phobia of talking.
Fear of any confrontation.
Any kind of mental ill health.
Etc...

You questioning them could make them ill for the rest of the day.
You could be putting them off for future outings.

Stoo being so selfish and inconsiderate, bugger off and mind your own fucking business !!

If anyone ever questions me, I won't even answer. Why the hell should I?

ibelieveshereallyistgedevil · 18/07/2024 11:20

TimeandMotion · 18/07/2024 11:12

Please see my previous post. Nobody is being harassed and nobody is suggesting any pecking order between BB holders other than “first come, first served”.

If you are asking disabled people to prove they have a bb in ANY way beyond having it displayed on the dashboard then you are harassing disabled people.

I do not answer to you.

If you want to know if I have a badge then look at my dashboard.

TellMeWhoTheVillainsAre · 18/07/2024 11:22

ibelieveshereallyistgedevil · 18/07/2024 11:00

Yes, because we need able bodied saviours to look out for us, we couldn’t possibly manage it ourselves.

Wow! Someone's got a chip..

Who said the member of the public who checks will always be able bodied? Surely BB holders are more likely to check that someone parking in a BB space is entitled to be there?

And should people (able bodied or not) not look out for others simply because they're able bodied (or not) for fear of offending the eternally offended?

LadyKenya · 18/07/2024 11:23

Well said@Petitchat . These posters on here justifying such actions are part of the problem, and they just will not listen to what people are saying here. The person being called out could have spent all morning trying to get out of the house, only to be confronted by a nosey, busy body, doing more harm than they care to know of.

TellMeWhoTheVillainsAre · 18/07/2024 11:24

ibelieveshereallyistgedevil · 18/07/2024 11:20

If you are asking disabled people to prove they have a bb in ANY way beyond having it displayed on the dashboard then you are harassing disabled people.

I do not answer to you.

If you want to know if I have a badge then look at my dashboard.

Fair point. But the OP appears to be offended that people even look at her dashboard! Only once did a cranky old man question her. Others simply look, and this is deemed offensive too.

CassandraWebb · 18/07/2024 11:24

ibelieveshereallyistgedevil · 18/07/2024 11:02

No.

Use your eyes and look for the bb if you must be a busybody- if you asked me you would be told in no uncertain terms where to go. You have no entitlement to anyone’s medical information and it’s frankly laughable that you think you do.

Exactly.
If people want to be busy bodies they can look for badges in cars, but asking people questions because they don't "look disabled" is both ignorant and intrusive

ibelieveshereallyistgedevil · 18/07/2024 11:26

TellMeWhoTheVillainsAre · 18/07/2024 11:24

Fair point. But the OP appears to be offended that people even look at her dashboard! Only once did a cranky old man question her. Others simply look, and this is deemed offensive too.

It is annoying to be stared at through the windscreen repeatedly, but preferable to being harangued when trying to transfer in and out of the car.

CassandraWebb · 18/07/2024 11:26

Petitchat · 18/07/2024 11:18

If you are entitled to park there then there's no problem.

Yes there is !!
You should be ashamed of yourself.

You could be questioning someone who has:
Anxiety.
Autism.
Severe breathlessness.
Extreme fatigue.
Phobia of talking.
Fear of any confrontation.
Any kind of mental ill health.
Etc...

You questioning them could make them ill for the rest of the day.
You could be putting them off for future outings.

Stoo being so selfish and inconsiderate, bugger off and mind your own fucking business !!

If anyone ever questions me, I won't even answer. Why the hell should I?

Exactly. Standing for longer than I have to makes me ill. It makes me very ill rapidly. Stress makes my symptoms worse. And often I am unable to talk clearly, and if I talk too much I lose the ability to swallow.

So asking me does cause me harm. The fact the harm is invisible to you doesn't mean it isn't real

Petitchat · 18/07/2024 11:26

TellMeWhoTheVillainsAre · 18/07/2024 11:22

Wow! Someone's got a chip..

Who said the member of the public who checks will always be able bodied? Surely BB holders are more likely to check that someone parking in a BB space is entitled to be there?

And should people (able bodied or not) not look out for others simply because they're able bodied (or not) for fear of offending the eternally offended?

Or the eternally ill who don't feel well enough to be questioned?

TimeandMotion · 18/07/2024 11:27

ibelieveshereallyistgedevil · 18/07/2024 11:02

No.

Use your eyes and look for the bb if you must be a busybody- if you asked me you would be told in no uncertain terms where to go. You have no entitlement to anyone’s medical information and it’s frankly laughable that you think you do.

Also, in what world is a disabled person who needs the space a “busybody”?

For the avoidance of doubt, I’ve never taken any interest in blue badge parking myself and I certainly would not challenge anyone. I was just explaining what my disabled brother told me about his experience with abuse of spaces, in order to illustrate that it’s unsurprising that problem get challenged because the abusers have created a climate of distrust.

If you don’t have a need yourself for the space perhaps you feel that giving people the benefit of the doubt is fine. But if you need the space you might not be so worried about potentially mistaking a disabled person for an able-bodied one.

I agree that able bodied people should keep their noses out.

CassandraWebb · 18/07/2024 11:27

ibelieveshereallyistgedevil · 18/07/2024 11:26

It is annoying to be stared at through the windscreen repeatedly, but preferable to being harangued when trying to transfer in and out of the car.

She's right to be annoyed. People are looking because they think she "doesn't look disabled". Which is deeply ignorant.

TomeTome · 18/07/2024 11:28

TimeandMotion · 18/07/2024 10:59

You absolutely do have the right to question someone if you think they might be parking in a BB space without a badge. Even more so if you are someone who needs the space.

Edited

What “right” is that and what enhanced “right” is it for disabled people?

TimeandMotion · 18/07/2024 11:29

ibelieveshereallyistgedevil · 18/07/2024 11:20

If you are asking disabled people to prove they have a bb in ANY way beyond having it displayed on the dashboard then you are harassing disabled people.

I do not answer to you.

If you want to know if I have a badge then look at my dashboard.

Why are you not understanding that my brother can’t see your dashboard?

TomeTome · 18/07/2024 11:29

If you don’t have a need yourself for the space perhaps you feel that giving people the benefit of the doubt is fine. But if you need the space you might not be so worried about potentially mistaking a disabled person for an able-bodied one. but the people telling you it’s not ok DO have a need and are annoyed at your brothers behaviour.

Persiancouscous · 18/07/2024 11:31

When someone says to me but you don't look disabled, I simply say back and you don't look stupid but I guess we are nothing wrong.

TellMeWhoTheVillainsAre · 18/07/2024 11:31

Petitchat · 18/07/2024 11:18

If you are entitled to park there then there's no problem.

Yes there is !!
You should be ashamed of yourself.

You could be questioning someone who has:
Anxiety.
Autism.
Severe breathlessness.
Extreme fatigue.
Phobia of talking.
Fear of any confrontation.
Any kind of mental ill health.
Etc...

You questioning them could make them ill for the rest of the day.
You could be putting them off for future outings.

Stoo being so selfish and inconsiderate, bugger off and mind your own fucking business !!

If anyone ever questions me, I won't even answer. Why the hell should I?

I should be ashamed of myself??? Really?? For what?

Just for the record I have NEVER ever questioned anyone parking anywhere. Ever. As I mentioned I have a BB friend. 9/10 when we park in a BB space someone will take a moment to slow down to see us getting out of the car, to check the dashboard etc. Again I stress we both see this is a positive thing. Because I'd be fairly certain if we parked in a BB spot without displaying a BB we'd be reported. And rightly so.

I'd love if all the people who do look and question simply stopped and minded their own business like so many here think they should. People would quickly find out how available BB spaces are then when everybody turns a blind eye to everyone and anyone parking in them.

TimeandMotion · 18/07/2024 11:34

TomeTome · 18/07/2024 11:29

If you don’t have a need yourself for the space perhaps you feel that giving people the benefit of the doubt is fine. But if you need the space you might not be so worried about potentially mistaking a disabled person for an able-bodied one. but the people telling you it’s not ok DO have a need and are annoyed at your brothers behaviour.

I don’t think they are actually.

Most people are saying that a person should not be questioned if you can see their blue badge. That is not what my brother is doing.