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Royal Children - Time for State school?

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microplastic · 17/07/2024 15:45

Should the Royal Family children be educated in state schools? Why do they get to attend private schools on taxpayers money? Is this something the Labour government could push for?

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microplastic · 17/07/2024 16:20

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I live in the uk, am here on a work visa but I'm not from the uk

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circular2478 · 17/07/2024 16:21

It would be nice to see them mixing with the pleb children. Maybe then there would be more money pumped into state schools.

Shielehdie · 17/07/2024 16:21

Taxpayers don’t pay for the private education of the Royal Family’s children. The family pay for it privately using the income from King Charles’s Duchy of Cornwall Estates.

Labour would also never mandate any person be denied the right to privately education their children. Not only would it be a wildly unpopular policy, it would be completely unworkable and would likely breach the European Charter of Human Rights.

I’m a republican and don’t believe we should have a royal family at all, but I don’t see it as the business of government to decide what they spend their own money on.

ThursdayTomorrow · 17/07/2024 16:21

We would all have to pay more in taxes if we didn’t have a royal family - they bring in more from tourism and business than they get given in wages from the state.
I think their parents pay for the royal children out of their wages, not the state.

JudgeJ · 17/07/2024 16:21

SemperIdem · 17/07/2024 15:49

I wouldn’t want the “royal children” at school with my child. Would rather my child didn’t go to a school that became a terrorist target.

I think I recall reading that the parents of the children at their current school were not happy when they found out they'd be starting there for a similar reason and the massive security involved.

Jaxhog · 17/07/2024 16:22

Precipice · 17/07/2024 15:47

There shouldn't be "royal" children at all. The UK should become a democracy.

We already are a democracy. You mean a republic.

crumpet · 17/07/2024 16:22

Regardless of any other income source, Diana left both William and Harry millions.

microplastic · 17/07/2024 16:22

ThursdayTomorrow · 17/07/2024 16:21

We would all have to pay more in taxes if we didn’t have a royal family - they bring in more from tourism and business than they get given in wages from the state.
I think their parents pay for the royal children out of their wages, not the state.

There are many countries doing fine without a royal family,

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Lalalacrosse · 17/07/2024 16:22

Cangar · 17/07/2024 16:14

But it costs lots at private school too surely?

Private schools used by royals tend to have something important- walls. Huge walls that provide a defensive perimeter.

they also understand royal protocol (eg the heir to the throne is addressed as Sir by the other students). They are also used to the security officers and have worked out how to tolerate their presence.

I’m all in favour of becoming a republic. But until then I doubt it’d be sensible to send those in the direct line of succession to state. The very much spares though…

Beekeepingmum · 17/07/2024 16:22

microplastic · 17/07/2024 15:54

They currently attend schools you know. Surely security measures can be put in, More cost effective than the full cost of their private education.

Especially as they already have the security paid for. It's not like private school in thermselves are more secure than state schools.

microplastic · 17/07/2024 16:22

circular2478 · 17/07/2024 16:21

It would be nice to see them mixing with the pleb children. Maybe then there would be more money pumped into state schools.

Yes :)

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Shaketherombooga · 17/07/2024 16:22

Aren’t they using their ‘own’ money to fund it?? If not I’m sure they could find a few quid to do so if needed…

eggandonion · 17/07/2024 16:22

How do universities cope with Royal students? The Yorks weren't in Cambridge or St Andrews which have colleges so presumably easier to secure.

Ted27 · 17/07/2024 16:23

I'm a Labour voters.

With the mess this country has been left in this really is such a non issue.

seagullible · 17/07/2024 16:23

LadyLucksalot · 17/07/2024 16:03

The Belgian royal family and several other European royals send their children to regular schools. Low key, low fuss. Much better approach all round if you ask me. From what I can tell, most of them turn out well-rounded and personable.

Not what we can say about the current UK lot.

In Scandinavia too. A friend of mine was in the same class as our Crown Prince. He was treated just like everyone else, and it probably did him good as he seems to have grown up to a decent normal person.

OtterMouse · 17/07/2024 16:23

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Allthehorsesintheworld · 17/07/2024 16:24

Precipice · 17/07/2024 15:47

There shouldn't be "royal" children at all. The UK should become a democracy.

I agree. Abolish the monarchy and you get rid of the security issue. They’ll have no more value than Joe Bloggs in the street.

HoppityBun · 17/07/2024 16:25

Is it on taxpayers money? How do you know? The Royal Family is very wealthy thanks to the gig they have, but I’m not convinced that we pay for the kids’ schooling. How would the government “push” for this? Why would they? It would be as divisive as Brexit. There are better things for the government to concentrate on

Sloejelly · 17/07/2024 16:25

Would they get to select from the best performing state schools in the country like Kier Starmer?

Janieforever · 17/07/2024 16:25

Christ no and we don’t pay for their education their parents do. You do understand they are independently wealthy. Not living hand to mouth waiting for hand outs right?

what an odd thread.

Dorisbonson · 17/07/2024 16:25

mathanxiety · 17/07/2024 16:16

I'm assuming your school sucked?

You didn't deserve that.

The issue raised by the OP should be looked at a different way - why can't all state schools be superb? All children deserve a great school.

The difference between a good state school and bad one isn't money, they have equal funding and schools in deprived areas actually receive more funding than ones in good areas per pupil. The difference between a good and bad school is governance and management.

The local authority and parents select the governors and effectively the schools leadership. If the school is under performing it's because the councillors, education department and parents let it happen.

Perhaps the solution is educating parents to be better governors and more transparency about school performance beyond exam results which are effectively lagging indicators of performance.

Though if you have lots of shit parents who don't care about their kids and let them misbehave then the school probably doesn't stand a chance.

Better funding probably wouldn't hurt though but it's not obvious where it comes from! Vat on private schools looks like it might actually cost money rather than save it.

ThursdayTomorrow · 17/07/2024 16:26

microplastic · 17/07/2024 16:01

Nice to see people put the Royal family on a pedestal but working parents sending their kids to private schools have been given lots of grief.

No. Working parents who send their children to private schools and claim they aren’t rich have been given grief. It makes me chuckle to see them complaining that if VAT is brought in, only the really really rich will be able to afford to send their children to private school - which is exactly what happens now!

WhitegreeNcandle · 17/07/2024 16:26

eggandonion · 17/07/2024 16:22

How do universities cope with Royal students? The Yorks weren't in Cambridge or St Andrews which have colleges so presumably easier to secure.

You can still see the reinforced bullet proof windows they had to install in Prince Williams house in st andrews as you drive past. I think it was up for sale recently

Spirallingdownwards · 17/07/2024 16:26

microplastic · 17/07/2024 15:45

Should the Royal Family children be educated in state schools? Why do they get to attend private schools on taxpayers money? Is this something the Labour government could push for?

They don't. You do realise the Royal Family had personal wealth too don't you?

AgentJohnson · 17/07/2024 16:26

But it costs lots at private school too surely?

Hundreds of thousands at a very conservative estimate. It won’t be Bob and a few of his mates doing the background checks, checking the sewers, securing nearby buildings etc.