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Royal Children - Time for State school?

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microplastic · 17/07/2024 15:45

Should the Royal Family children be educated in state schools? Why do they get to attend private schools on taxpayers money? Is this something the Labour government could push for?

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ladykale · 24/07/2024 11:45

Should the Royal Family only be allowed to go on holiday to Butlins?

That question is as sensible as this ridiculous post 😂

Krumblina · 24/07/2024 11:53

asdfgasdfg · 24/07/2024 11:43

I remember at the end of West Wing (love that show) The new President put his kids in a local state school. All I could think was how stupid, how'd they manage security without changing the entire school.

What security do you think private schools have?

Britsfivk · 24/07/2024 12:29

In general private schools have much larger grounds than a state school. There are less kids per class and density of bodies matter in securing a location. Having a large campus with easy to deal entry and exit points matter. Adjacent buildings and their closeness matter. People with money are harder to bribe and less likely to be corrupted by an offer of money for information. The list goes on and on. There's really no comparing the two.

wordler · 24/07/2024 15:34

Krumblina · 24/07/2024 11:53

What security do you think private schools have?

It’s not that they already have security- it’s that any school William’s children go to have to have specific security put in place.

That’s easier to do in a smaller private school. There may be smaller state schools where it would work - primary level particularly. But unlikely that they’d find a compatible secondary.

Krumblina · 24/07/2024 15:45

wordler · 24/07/2024 15:34

It’s not that they already have security- it’s that any school William’s children go to have to have specific security put in place.

That’s easier to do in a smaller private school. There may be smaller state schools where it would work - primary level particularly. But unlikely that they’d find a compatible secondary.

The average secondary school has under 1000 pupils.
Eton for example has 1341 pupils.

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wordler · 24/07/2024 15:53

Krumblina · 24/07/2024 15:45

The average secondary school has under 1000 pupils.
Eton for example has 1341 pupils.

But you have to compare staff to pupil ratio, as well as how the buildings are set up, how many entrances and exits have to be monitored.

How to manage pupil behaviour with things like camera phones etc.

A private school has a lot more power to remove pupils from the school for breaking any rules. Imagine the outcry if a state school pupil was excluded from education because of something they did concerning the royal kids.

GoFigure235 · 24/07/2024 16:05

ladykale · 24/07/2024 11:45

Should the Royal Family only be allowed to go on holiday to Butlins?

That question is as sensible as this ridiculous post 😂

The kids would probably enjoy it a lot more than being stuck in stuffy castles in rural Scotland and Norfolk. So I vote yes 😂.

Or maybe Centerparcs would be a sort of middle class "inclusive" centre ground?

CruCru · 24/07/2024 16:13

asdfgasdfg · 24/07/2024 11:43

I remember at the end of West Wing (love that show) The new President put his kids in a local state school. All I could think was how stupid, how'd they manage security without changing the entire school.

I don’t think many presidents’ children have gone to state schools. My Dad (who lived in DC for many years) told me about one (Jimmy Carter’s daughter) who went to a local state school and it was a total nightmare. Local office workers would bring lunch and try to catch glimpses of the child at recess. It’s part of the reason people in the White House are so keen for their children to have privacy.

I’ve tried googling for articles about this but I’ve only found this thing on CNN (edition.cnn.com/2014/12/02/politics/political-kids-off-limits/index.html. edition.cnn.com/2014/12/02/politics/political-kids-off-limits/index.html]].]]

Britsfivk · 24/07/2024 17:23

The average state secondary of 1000 students won't have anything like the acres and acres of Eton or be nearly as private. Imagine the security team taking over a room for themselves when they already have kids reading in the corridors! It just wouldn't happen. The security staff have to be able to be accomadated.

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 24/07/2024 18:03

Precipice · 17/07/2024 15:47

There shouldn't be "royal" children at all. The UK should become a democracy.

I think you’ll find that the UK is already a democracy.

A monarchy can be a democracy and a republic can be a dictatorship. But I suppose that’s confusing.

Grammarnut · 24/07/2024 22:39

Krumblina · 24/07/2024 15:45

The average secondary school has under 1000 pupils.
Eton for example has 1341 pupils.

All the secondary schools in my city have c. 2k students. Less than that and they get shut down.

Needanewname42 · 25/07/2024 15:05

Krumblina · 24/07/2024 15:45

The average secondary school has under 1000 pupils.
Eton for example has 1341 pupils.

You'll need to back that up for me because I don't believe for a second the average state secondary has less than a 1000 pupils.

The average secondary around me is 1300 pupils. My kids primary has over 500 kids.

You also have to consider private schools have the ability to expel any pupil who breaches the confidentiality of any other pupil, ie you put photos online or sell them to an overseas rag your out.

The state schools cannot do that in the interests of "inclusion".

The Wales children won't be the only children in a private school with security concerns.
There are bound to be others with rich parents who could be a kidnapping risk just for the ransom money.

Nanny0gg · 25/07/2024 15:36

LiterallyOnFire · 17/07/2024 17:23

You'd think OP had suggested sending the royal children up chimneys by the reaction she's getting (from some). 🤷🏼‍♀️

Thinking of the school my DGC go to, that's not a bad idea...

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