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To get irrationally irritated by waiting for latecomers when I’ve made the effort to be on time?

157 replies

Hazeby · 16/07/2024 08:43

When you’re waiting for something to start, be it a work meeting or presentation or a school event….. “We’ll just give it ten more minutes for any latecomers and then we’ll start…”

NO!!

I may as well turn up ten minutes late myself plus how will these people learn to be on time unless it starts without them. Gives me the rage.

OP posts:
Badbadbunny · 16/07/2024 15:10

"Traffic" is only really a genuine excuse when something particularly rare and unusual has happened such as a major accident that's blocked the road and caused severe congestion.

Busier than normal traffic due to school start/finishing times, or just general traffic volume in places that are always busy really isn't a valid excuse as it's entirely foreseeable.

Okbyethen · 16/07/2024 15:11

YANBU!!
Lateness is my biggest pet hate! Especially when there's no real excuse for being late, just that 'oh sorry I got up late'. Nah, your time is not more valuable than mine and I won't wait for you.

There's a woman down my street who is ALWAYS late bringing her kids to school and I see them all running down the road to school 10 mins late every morning 🤦🏻‍♀️

ManchesterLu · 16/07/2024 15:14

Didimum · 16/07/2024 08:45

No, I think it’s pretty fruitless to get annoyed by this sort of thing. I don’t see what bearing it has in the grand scheme.

Edited

So you're one of the ones who's always late then, clearly.

OP YANBU. People won't learn unless they miss the start of things due to being late. If the world slows down for them, they'll always take the piss, it's rude.

Caroparo52 · 16/07/2024 15:14

I agree with you. Things should start on time. It's a courtesy to be on time says someone often late herself. But I need to learn to not try and jam 101 errands into my life

EarthlyNightshade · 16/07/2024 15:19

Regalia · 16/07/2024 09:22

Because it’s not about you, assuming you’re not running the meeting. I wait because I don’t want to have to repeat myself, and/or, if it’s an in-person meeting or lecture, to have my train of thought disturbed by the door opening, latecomers coming in and settling themselves etc. It’s marginally less irritating to wait and not have interruptions.

How do you manage to finish on time if you wait for everyone to arrive?

Didimum · 16/07/2024 15:21

ManchesterLu · 16/07/2024 15:14

So you're one of the ones who's always late then, clearly.

OP YANBU. People won't learn unless they miss the start of things due to being late. If the world slows down for them, they'll always take the piss, it's rude.

"Clearly", eh?

Nope, but nice try (I guess?). I am at director level in my job which always means I have to be punctual and have two children who are never late for school.

Just because I don't get worked up about latecomers, it doesn't mean I am a latecomer myself. For me, it's an inconvenience that is overwhelmingly meaningless when all is said and done.

whiteroseredrose · 16/07/2024 15:57

It's rude and arrogant and disrespectful of other people's time.

This has happened to me a couple of times, people with the appointment before me turning up late which meant that my appointment would then start and finish late too. Very annoying.

PCBabies · 16/07/2024 16:03

KarmenPQZ · 16/07/2024 14:50

I’m consistently late for a weekly yoga class at the moment. Because I value my time working up to the second and don’t mind missing the lame relaxing bit at the beginning. I do acknowledge it’s rude to the teacher and perhaps the other people in the class (although I do try to sneak in very quietly) and def do not want or expect the class to wait for me. To me that 5 mins working is a better use of my time.

This is SO rude and really disrupts the flow of the class.

This happened in our class a lot last year, and our teacher now refuses to allow people to join late.

LlynTegid · 16/07/2024 16:07

Your irritation is not irrational. You expect reasonable courtesy nothing more.

I host a daily call at work. It starts on time, no waiting for anyone, even the head of department. Almost no-one is ever late of the 20 or so who join the call. Perhaps because they know it will start on time.

Crunchymum · 16/07/2024 16:19

A few minutes are usually offered on large / company wide meetings as we span every time zone and sometimes people are joining the call on their own time. But it's literally a few minutes.

We (attendees) are automatically muted on larger calls so anyone can join at any time without causing disruption.

As a rule, on smaller meetings if a client is late I'll give them about 10 minutes before messaging and asking if they are able to join the call. Colleagues get about 5 minutes!

BingoMarieHeeler · 16/07/2024 16:21

Abouttimeforanamechange · 16/07/2024 14:41

I’d say ‘10 minutes? I’ll just get a coffee then’ etc and do just that, or whatever I want to for 10 mins. Then you get the benefit of being in time, getting a good seat, and not wasting 10 mins.

but what happens at the end? Does the presenter stop at the advertised time, so there's no time for the Q&A, or she has to cut some of her material? Maybe she has to stop, if the room is wanted for another meeting, or there's another speaker waiting to present.

Or does she keep going, but the last ten minutes is disrupted by people creeping out because they need to be somewhere else, and they miss the conclusion of the presentation or the Q&A.

Not all work places are that intense tbh.

crinkletits · 16/07/2024 16:26

As someone who is occasionally late, I'd rather you cracked on 🤷‍♀️.

Bootstoots · 16/07/2024 16:36

Pippatpip · 16/07/2024 09:08

Agree with you. Turned up to a breed specific dog walk, on time. Hung around for around half an hour waiting for two people. Meanwhile my dog was getting stressed with being somewhere strange, people banging walking boots together (she's very scared of any bang type noises). I had just got to the stage of thinking I would have to leave when finally we set off 45 mins after the star5 time. I won't do another one. It has always made me edgy when people can't start on time or near time - ten mins wouldn't bother me too much but hanging around waiting is very stressful.

Hmm...the most consistently late person I know also went to a breed-specific dog walk recently. Wonder if it was the same one and it was them who held you up!

lilactubular · 16/07/2024 16:44

KarmenPQZ · 16/07/2024 14:50

I’m consistently late for a weekly yoga class at the moment. Because I value my time working up to the second and don’t mind missing the lame relaxing bit at the beginning. I do acknowledge it’s rude to the teacher and perhaps the other people in the class (although I do try to sneak in very quietly) and def do not want or expect the class to wait for me. To me that 5 mins working is a better use of my time.

Its incredibly self absorbed to deliberately destroy the flow of the class for everyone else like this, for your ' 5 mins' . What you call ' lame relaxing' is an essential part of the class for other people, not an optional extra. It's meditative practice that sets people in the right frame of mind for the class, starting to build that mind/body connection that many of us find so essential and beneficial in yoga. As a yoga teacher of mine used to say. ' If you are doing yoga for back or yoga for legs, you are not doing yoga'.

You should find a different class, one that is not yoga.

Doublevodka · 16/07/2024 16:56

YANBU. It’s very frustrating. However, my daughter has ADHD and is pretty much time blind despite her absolute best efforts. It has drove me insane for years, but I realise there is nothing I can do, or she can do really. I feel sorry for her, because throughout her life people will be annoyed with her because of this, and she tries really hard to not be like this.

DoreenonTill8 · 16/07/2024 17:34

KateMiskin · 16/07/2024 10:20

Haven't you been lectured about " time blindness" already? Lots of people claim to have it.

Absolutely, and it's usually announced with a 'ta-da' you can't say anything now, completely disregarding the affect that there lateness has on everyone as per @yellowsmileyface has given an example of.

KarmenPQZ · 16/07/2024 17:35

lilactubular · 16/07/2024 16:44

Its incredibly self absorbed to deliberately destroy the flow of the class for everyone else like this, for your ' 5 mins' . What you call ' lame relaxing' is an essential part of the class for other people, not an optional extra. It's meditative practice that sets people in the right frame of mind for the class, starting to build that mind/body connection that many of us find so essential and beneficial in yoga. As a yoga teacher of mine used to say. ' If you are doing yoga for back or yoga for legs, you are not doing yoga'.

You should find a different class, one that is not yoga.

Edited

Yes for the most part I agree with you. And I do feel disrespectful. But I don’t actually disrupt the class. Everyone else has their eyes closed and I take my shoes off outside specifically so I don’t make a noise. Also it’s a budget gym not a fancy yoga place so whilst ‘yoga’ is the class name it’s not strictly yoga in the truest sense. I also do the same with the hiit and circuits classes… my rushed 8 minute cycle there is all the warm up I need! I can’t do an hour class in a lunch hour so there’s no other option for me

KateMiskin · 16/07/2024 17:36

It's interesting that so many latecomers on this thread have said it's because they "value their time"😂

Zanatdy · 16/07/2024 17:38

Being consistently late is a really bad character trait

fluffiphlox · 16/07/2024 17:38

I regularly deliver training both face-to-face and remotely. I always start punctually as a courtesy to those who have arrived on time.

fluffiphlox · 16/07/2024 17:40

‘Time blindness?!’ I ask you.

stayathomer · 16/07/2024 17:41

But they might be in other training/ at another meeting etc? We used to have a manager who used to get really snappy and snippy about people being late, but he wouldn’t listen when we asked him to change the time because we’d have training on another floor just before his meeting

fluffiphlox · 16/07/2024 17:50

stayathomer · 16/07/2024 17:41

But they might be in other training/ at another meeting etc? We used to have a manager who used to get really snappy and snippy about people being late, but he wouldn’t listen when we asked him to change the time because we’d have training on another floor just before his meeting

If I start late, I may have to finish late and that has a knock-on effect for other arrangements. I can only take responsibility for myself and what I am doing and not for the poor time management of others.

OneTC · 16/07/2024 17:58

KarmenPQZ · 16/07/2024 14:50

I’m consistently late for a weekly yoga class at the moment. Because I value my time working up to the second and don’t mind missing the lame relaxing bit at the beginning. I do acknowledge it’s rude to the teacher and perhaps the other people in the class (although I do try to sneak in very quietly) and def do not want or expect the class to wait for me. To me that 5 mins working is a better use of my time.

The fact that you justify disrupting other people cos it just suits you is awful behaviour.

Don't ever tell them that.

I would kick you out if I knew that you weren't simply useless at time keeping

Neighbours87 · 16/07/2024 18:03

Yes I hate this. At an exercise class I go to it’s always “we’ll just give everyone a few minutes to get here”. It’s so disrespectful to the people who show up on time