To NOT support England ???

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I’m not English. I have lived in England for a very long time. I do not support the England football team, I frequently support their opposition!

Colleague has taken the England loss hard, and said ‘ I bet you’re glad they lost’ - I replied that I was essentially a neutral but thought Spain deserved the win.

Hes gone off in a big old rant about how if I live here I should be supporting England teams etc.
I think he should have a wee lie down and chill out!

YABU - you SHOULD support the team of a country you’ve made a life in - even if you are from a former colony of that country

YANBU - of course you don’t have to support a national team that’s not yours

Yet more anti-English rhetoric on Mumsnet I see. I just knew that sooner or later one of these threads would pop up. This isn’t about football, it’s just another opportunity to have a dig, complete with sweeping generalisations about English people. You clearly have a chip on your shoulder about England and English people OP. If you hate it so much then why don’t you just hop over the border and go and live in Scotland?

Not that who you support really matters. If you prefere the other team that's totally fine but I do find the mentality "I don't care who England is playing, I'll support anyone but england" a bit peculiar. I also find the black and white in sport to be annoying. Yesterday down at the pub (not in UK) listening to people the people ok differnet sidd were basically both saying that my team is good, yours is utterly carbage and such a pile of shit and everything they do is total shit. No in-between.

Soccer or aussie rules?

Anyone can support or not support anyone they like. It’s only football.

But making it known that you actively don’t want England to win to English people in England, regardless of who the other side is, isn’t exactly pleasant. I’ve had a colleague from mainland Europe in the past who whinged constantly about how shit everything and everyone was here (cheers!) and a US friend who transferred here for work and severely wore on my nerves with his constant complaining about how backwards we are. It doesn’t play well. My Dh isn’t English and has plenty of gripes about living here, but he manages not to wind friends and colleagues up with negativity and superiority.

Too rainy. Also, why Scotland out of interest??

And your country of birth is squeaky clean?

Dave started this particular instance, and you just reacted -

BUT you have got such a massive chip on your shoulder. If this is how you go on normally your colleagues are probably bloody fed up of you!

Crazy revelation, but people who have no direct connection to previous (yes abhorrent, unacceptable, horrible historical action) get kind of bored of being looked down on or being told their shit because you've got a weird bitterness about you. And you actively celebrating or crowing about the failure or something they genuinely care about falls into that imo. Yeh, it's only football. But, why be intentionally goady?

You are rude to posters here. You have described him as stupid, etc.

You can't force yourself to support a team though, it's just about how you feel. I'm Welsh and while I would have chosen England to win over Spain if forced, I actually just didn't care either way.
If I moved to another country I would support their team out of politeness but I wouldn't really care

So you’re absolutely not the kind of person I’m talking about

I wouldn’t expect a Welsh person, living in England, to support England.

Well, I think it’s a bit weird of you but entirely your choice.
From my Facebook newsfeed, I gather a lot of people feel edgy or superior if they don’t support England, which is fine.
As a lot of posters have said, I’d support the country I lived in (unless competing with my country of birth) and I also support any country in the U.K remaining in a competition.
The ‘anti-England’ thing is a little tedious.

Any jobs going at your place OP? Looking for a job where I can mess around on mumsnet all day and still get paid.

Just because Ireland weren't in it!

Seems a bit mean to frequently support the opposition rather than England - like it's not just that you have loyalties elsewhere.

I have an Irish friend OP who supports any other team than England. She would go to pubs to watch a game dressed in the opposition football shirt. Nobody cares.

She goes to a lot of trouble to get her point across. Buying expensive football shirts and finding out England supporting pubs instead of ones for her side.

Did you live in England in 1994 when England didn’t qualify for the World Cup, and Ireland did? 🤔 I certainly remember everyone getting behind the Irish team 🇮🇪

That's a bit daft of her whilst I certainly dint agree with violence after football, why would you deliberately antagonise fans?

The OP probably won’t believe you as apparently English people are just that no
diversity In their heritage whatsoever and we all have to stick rigidly to these silly tribal notions!

He seems to be following op around banging on about how its her fault England lost the football, because she is not English so doesn't support England. DH is Welsh. He has lived in England since he was 12. He supports Wales. No one follows him around at work berating him over it! It doesn't have to be something OP goes through with, just a threat if he's getting too irritating. It's bordering on Tebbits cricket test.

football football.

How exhausting and expensive

Yes basically! But somehow work colleagues xenophobia is also my fault! How dare I say I was a neutral hoping for a good final…

let’s just say he was tired and emotional. He’s also a Man U fan so is going through a tough time in general 😅

Haha your thread got deleted

Yes it hit a few nerves for sure!

I'm Irish but living in England over 20 years.

Always support England unless they're playing Ireland.

England is where we work, kids were born and go to school etc etc . It makes sense to support them