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To have grudging respect for how Trump styled it out

555 replies

Ladyslip · 14/07/2024 18:15

I mean someone tried to murder him, he came very close to having died. He went through a terrifying experience and came out saying fight and raising his fist in defiance. I think he’s an odious man but despite that, I have to concede a nod to that.

Let’s face it, if this had happened to Obama and he’d responded in the same way we’d all be like ‘woah, he the man!’

Note. This is not a genuine AIBU. I’m confident in my position on this but know so many people have so polarized themselves that they would rather eat their own eyeballs than find any small compliment or recognition for someone they hate.

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dottiehens · 17/07/2024 15:31

Workoutinthepark · 15/07/2024 22:50

There's a lot of radicalised MAGAs and the guy was a registered republican. I have no idea what happened, but any things possible in Americas political scene these days isn't it?

It could be something unthinkable. After all Ronald Reagan was shot by someone who wanted to impress Jodie Foster. We will never know why this young boy did it. But some do it for fame too.

WindsorCat · 17/07/2024 19:30

There must be several people with issues who want to take a shot at Trump at any given time, it's concerning that security was so ineffective. The unthinkable would be if this were an inside job. Surround Trump with ineffective security and, suddenly, Biden calling zelensky Putin, is not a problem any longer.

EasternStandard · 17/07/2024 19:32

The security failure sounds incredibly bad

Nanaof1 · 18/07/2024 02:04

Workoutinthepark · 15/07/2024 22:50

There's a lot of radicalised MAGAs and the guy was a registered republican. I have no idea what happened, but any things possible in Americas political scene these days isn't it?

Not really. I suppose simple minds come to simple conclusions, but as far as I know. no one in America does the suicide bomber scenario. We leave that to other countries who are into that crap.

But hey, you do you! 👌

Nanaof1 · 18/07/2024 02:06

EasternStandard · 17/07/2024 19:32

The security failure sounds incredibly bad

Last I heard, there was a major, major failure of communication between the area LE and the Secret Service. They noticed the man on the roof but believed he was with the area LE SWAT. Whether they tried to get confirmation, I don't know, but it definitely was a FUBAR.

Nanaof1 · 18/07/2024 02:18

rallyup · 16/07/2024 05:39

People are dead! Was not a set up!

I am guessing either a few are enjoying winding this up, having sad, pathetic lives, or as my DF used to say, "The only use some people have for their head is as a hat rack." I now believe he is correct. 😬👽🙄

Nanaof1 · 18/07/2024 02:25

BruceAndNosh · 15/07/2024 20:39

It's not about being Democrat or Republican.
It's about basic human decency.
It's about not supporting someone who has kicked Women's Rights back a century.
It's about not supporting someone who has taken the stance that the only valid election is one that he wins.
Who has damaged vaccine take up for serious childhood diseases

Can you show me where Trump said he is against childhood vaccinations? I don't remember ever reading that. 🤔

AccountCreateUsername · 18/07/2024 02:34

turquoisebays · 14/07/2024 19:38

It's actually funny watching people just absolutely seethe over this man.
The pure, unadulterated hatred for him is just tangible. This would be understandable if there weren't other leaders and former leaders of free countries who were guilty of far, far worse than Trump, but because Trump is first and foremost guilty of the unforgiveable crime of being a right-wing, politically incorrect businessman, he is enemy number 1 for the Left. I'm not saying he isn't guilty of more, but compared to some other leaders from the last decade, he's almost benign.
In my view, Jacinda Arden's policies were outright, objectively evil and dangerous. I am genuinely shocked she's not in prison for some of the things she implemented. But she's an educated, left-wing woman, so there's no way she could be worse than someone like TRUMP.

For me it’s his criminality, racism, inflammatory language, rape and sexual assault allegations. For starters. He’s just a terrible human being and a hypocrite. as an individual he is easy to hate. I wouldn’t want to be in a room alone with him.

I don’t understand how anyone actually admires him. Style over substance I suppose.

AccountCreateUsername · 18/07/2024 02:36

Nanaof1 · 18/07/2024 02:25

Can you show me where Trump said he is against childhood vaccinations? I don't remember ever reading that. 🤔

Here you go:
www.independent.co.uk/news/donald-trump-ap-trump-centers-for-disease-control-and-prevention-vaccines-b2580927.html

AccountCreateUsername · 18/07/2024 02:45

DeeLight00 · 17/07/2024 06:20

@cardibach

Can we start as a baseline with one who doesn’t have convictions? Isn’t a self confessed sex pest? Steaks in complete sentences and doesn’t refer to themselves as ‘a stable genius’?
Thats quite a lot right there.

Well go on then...who?

There are lots of world leaders who aren’t alleged rapists, felons or get clout from the KKK / sympathise with racists.
Anyone could name loads of American politicians who are nowhere near as dirty and corrupt as Trump. What would be the point? It doesn’t distract from his criminality, predation or unsuitability to lead a country like America

Whats with the ‘go on’ demands anyway? You haven’t caught anyone out you know.

BeachParty · 18/07/2024 02:54

I'm showing my ignorance here but I genuinely don't get how he's apparently in the running for President after all this?!
This being It doesn’t distract from his criminality, predation or unsuitability to lead a country like America
How can you still run for President after all that?!

Nanaof1 · 18/07/2024 05:53

LOL! He is such an idiot. He's talking vaccines with RJK Jr.? I knew RJK Jr is an anti-vaxxer, which breaks my heart. Trump, these days I cannot figure out which orifice he is speaking out of at any time. Never thought that two major Presidential candidates (Biden andTrump) could make me feel that America is living the movie Dumb and Dumber.
I'll be waiting for the next show of idiocy. I'm sure it will not be a long wait.

justasking111 · 18/07/2024 08:31

Clinton "I did not have sex with that woman" Epstein's island anyone
Was an excellent president for two terms

John F Kennedy who was amoral sexually would have served two terms.

You don't have to be a moral person to be a good president as history has shown.

newnamethanks · 18/07/2024 08:36

You don't have to be a misogynistic and fraudulent criminal either but apparently it helps.

AllPrincessAnneshorses · 18/07/2024 08:56

justasking111 · 18/07/2024 08:31

Clinton "I did not have sex with that woman" Epstein's island anyone
Was an excellent president for two terms

John F Kennedy who was amoral sexually would have served two terms.

You don't have to be a moral person to be a good president as history has shown.

Edited

Trump was not and will not be a good President. He's an existential threat to many in America and to Europe menaced by Putin. He's made it clear he will abandon Europe to its fate in the wake of military action.
We should be terrified of a Trump presidency. I know I am.

dottiehens · 18/07/2024 09:03

You are terrified of Trump others are terrified of Biden. Facts are facts but they don’t have any weight in the social media world.

VickyEadieofThigh · 18/07/2024 09:13

Bakersdozens · 14/07/2024 18:32

He was running on adrenaline, and did everything wrong, showed no self control or training at all. He was sticking his head out without knowing how many snipers there were, or where they were! His guards were desperately trying to reign him in, but he was out of control. No sense, no self control, no response to training

No, I don't admire him. If there had been two shooters, he would have been killed. He is an idiot. Most people know it

Edited

He values becoming president again more than anything - even his own life. That's dangerous in a man with that kind of power.

Manhere2024 · 18/07/2024 09:27

Here’s a quote from the latest Spectator. Nothing that hasn’t been said before, but nicely put.

To have grudging respect for how Trump styled it out
newnamethanks · 18/07/2024 09:56

What is that exactly? A call for idiots to unite and act like Donny? USA, if you persist in this lunacy, you're doomed. Jesus won't save all of you.

Notaflippinclue · 18/07/2024 10:58

Health & safety said the FBI couldn't go on a slightly sloped roof pwahahaha that type of nonsense is exactly what Trump is up against. Woke woke and more woke!

AccountCreateUsername · 18/07/2024 11:07

justasking111 · 18/07/2024 08:31

Clinton "I did not have sex with that woman" Epstein's island anyone
Was an excellent president for two terms

John F Kennedy who was amoral sexually would have served two terms.

You don't have to be a moral person to be a good president as history has shown.

Edited

Clinton isn’t running for president.

You realise Donald Trump was close to Epstein and seemingly supplied girls working out of Mar a Lago?

Nobody beats the odiousness, dishonesty and criminality of Trump. He’s a grifter through and through. Racist, a sexual abuser / rapist, he likes them young too.

He's despicable and America deserves so, so much better.

AccountCreateUsername · 18/07/2024 11:12

Notaflippinclue · 18/07/2024 10:58

Health & safety said the FBI couldn't go on a slightly sloped roof pwahahaha that type of nonsense is exactly what Trump is up against. Woke woke and more woke!

Fake news! I’m curious about Trump supporters, what is it about him you all seem to revere in he face of his criminality / sexual predation / racism etc

Do you believe he’s the messiah? Or do you believe any of the Q anon stuff? I’m not trying to insult you, I’m genuinely at a loss to understand why people are defending a nasty thug.

justasking111 · 18/07/2024 12:07

AllPrincessAnneshorses · 18/07/2024 08:56

Trump was not and will not be a good President. He's an existential threat to many in America and to Europe menaced by Putin. He's made it clear he will abandon Europe to its fate in the wake of military action.
We should be terrified of a Trump presidency. I know I am.

Roosevelt abandoned Europe until pearl harbour

justasking111 · 18/07/2024 12:09

Biden is out of the picture again with COVID. Guess Kamala will have to stand in

justasking111 · 18/07/2024 12:11

AccountCreateUsername · 18/07/2024 11:07

Clinton isn’t running for president.

You realise Donald Trump was close to Epstein and seemingly supplied girls working out of Mar a Lago?

Nobody beats the odiousness, dishonesty and criminality of Trump. He’s a grifter through and through. Racist, a sexual abuser / rapist, he likes them young too.

He's despicable and America deserves so, so much better.

America won't get better because the party have hung their hat on them 🤷