To have grudging respect for how Trump styled it out

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I mean someone tried to murder him, he came very close to having died. He went through a terrifying experience and came out saying fight and raising his fist in defiance. I think he’s an odious man but despite that, I have to concede a nod to that.

Let’s face it, if this had happened to Obama and he’d responded in the same way we’d all be like ‘woah, he the man!’

Note. This is not a genuine AIBU. I’m confident in my position on this but know so many people have so polarized themselves that they would rather eat their own eyeballs than find any small compliment or recognition for someone they hate.

This.

Britain was a bit unlucky with brexit too. Covid happened and the country had gone sit poorer since then.

She was working full time. I barely ever saw her.

It all made him look very physically robust as well - comparing unfavourably to the increasingly frail Biden.

How is that Labour’s fault? You’re going to have to explain exactly what was down to them if you want us to believe this.

How was Brexit going to cause that to happen? You know the EU made grants to the regions, don’t you? Surely you do?

All I know is that life got increasingly worse.

I don't regret voting how I did.

When I see my middle class in laws now, in the South East, I do geyt angry about the wealth distribution in the UK.

Yes, it’s shit. The EU helped even it out a bit with grants to the regions.
I still don’t get how Labour sucked your mother dry.

@SpudleyLass She will have got 4 x child benefit unlike now, that alone would have paid at least half the rent ! I am not trying to diminish what you and your Mum went through, I can honestly say that I wouldn't have been able to contemplate college with four children, although some on my course with helpful families did, everyone's situation is different and I take it your Dad wasn't any help either ?

@Munter I suppose its called listening to different people's experiences , it's a bit of a new concept that I doubt will taken up by any politician

Labour made every excuse to increase taxes- I remember even now.

And no, she did nor get 4x child benefit as my sister at that point was knocking on adulthood then so was my.older brother.

I literally starved some days.

Labour made every excuse to increase taxes- I remember even now.

Still a lot lower than under the recently departed Conservatives ?

I have to say you must have been a child genius as I don't remember how much tax my parents payed back in 1976, I mean I could look it up now, but that doesn't mean the average 4yr old will have any concept of it

And I get angry when I see ridiculous reasons for voting Brexit which have had real life consequences for this country.

No one disagrees that wealth needs to be more evenly distributed round the country.

It is utterly mind boggling that you thought Brexit would achieve this. It literally put more control into the hands of the very people that want to keep it for themselves and their cronies.

People have the right to vote for who they want. But it is so very, very frustrating to read wild accusations that aren’t backed up and to see how devastating changes have been made to our country due to voting based on bizarre beliefs.

Back to Trump, I am glad he wasn't seriously injured or killed during the attempt on his life, I dread to think what the outcome would have been for the US if that had happened.
I sort of understand where the OP is coming from, if you put a PR hat on and look at it purely from that point of view, I think that is where Trumps power lies, not in being a good person, that doesn't matter really, what does matter is how he is perceived by the people who might vote for him, that's all that really counts, isn't it ? A cross in a box ?
Farage might be a dismal excuse for a human being in my opinion, but I also see how good he is at saying the 'right' thing to the right audience, at the right time, he pushes peoples buttons, Trump is the US version of him on steroids, it doesn't have to make sense to make sense !

The secret service draw a boundary, inside the line is their responsibility, outside it is the (supposedly) safer area that falls to the local police.
The shooter seems to have been acting alone (no escape route or obvious back up). It's suggested that he was a Democrat who had registered as a Republican to get access and be informed of Trump's local events.
Had he been inside one of the sheds firing through an opening (reminiscent of John Allen Muhammad and Lee Boyd Malvo who picked off victims through a hole in the back of their car twenty years ago) it could have been far worse.
Sniffer dogs and drones should have been deployed, but I suspect the view from within the FBI and DHS is that only a far-right redneck would try to shoot a candidate - and they're on his side.

Had he been inside one of the sheds firing through an opening (reminiscent of John Allen Muhammad and Lee Boyd Malvo who picked off victims through a hole in the back of their car twenty years ago) it could have been far worse.

I remember that ! I don't think he would have got the shot without the height though ? I think it might be one of those hindsight is a marvellous thing type scenario's , or the locals might have thought the sniper on the roof covered the roofs of the sheds to the sides, I am sure it will all come out in the investigation.

Iran misses him deeply!

David Dimbleby did a wonderful series of programmes on R4 just before Brexit. He spoke to people in poorer parts of the UK. He raised the issue of EU infrastructure: roads, bridges, leisure centres etc.
The general feeling was that the transport links tended to reduce the local jobs as bigger firms could undercut local businesses, while houses became more attractive as second-homes if folks from richer parts of the country could get there quicker.
A very articulate business owner from Merthyr Tydfil described a new leisure centre that locals couldn't afford to use being provided, while she couldn't access help to employ people in new jobs because of State Aid regulations that are routinely flouted in major EU states.

The best response ever for an assassination attempt will always be President Reagan.

When his wife walked into the ER, where they were working to save his life, he looked at Nancy and said, "Honey, I forgot to duck".

He’s a 78 year old and reacted as most people who had been shot at would , he was prob in shock too. It did seem ironic that he supports gun ownership so strongly and he was lucky not to have been killed by a gun.

But the left will "explain" Biden's remark away as NBD, just as they did with Pelosi's.

Now, if the parties were reversed, heads would roll and the jails would already be full.

I guess it's only inciting violence when the other party does it.

Actually, being a Republican does NOT automatically make you a Trump supporter. Not sure where that stupidity comes from but it's being parroted about as if it were gospel.

Secondly, this was published in a NBC report today:
"Pennsylvania voter records listed a Thomas Matthew Crooks with the same address and birth date as a registered Republican. But Crooks appeared to have made a $15 donation to a liberal PAC on inauguration day in 2021, according to Federal Election Commission records."

Shooter donated to liberal PAC

As I have said, many people will register the opposite of what they believe. This is done so they can vote for the least favorable candidate on the side they don't support. Then, in the general election, they vote for their true party. Independents will often declare one way or another so they can vote in the primaries. Not sure why this is so difficult for some to understand. I guess you can lead some people to water, but you can't make them think. It's just NOT rocket science.