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Donald trump!!

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Filltheglass · 13/07/2024 23:44

Just nearly got assasinated!!!

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nomoretoriesforme · 14/07/2024 19:47

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Emmanuelll · 14/07/2024 19:51

Another thing I'm sick of is this 'if you don't listen to the fascists, then you're a fascist and you're part of the problem' bollocks.

I see you - you are nothing new and I've heard it all before. It's a pathetic way to argue that we should give air time to people like Farage who are hateful and yes, racist. Although, I also blame the BBC for giving him airtime so much. There are certain people for whom it's dangerous to give a platform. The result is things like the MAGA movement and populist figures who are not fit for the job governing and causing a climate where violence is more likely.

DanielGault · 14/07/2024 19:53

EasternStandard · 14/07/2024 19:46

@DanielGault you may have a point but I’m interested too

Everybody suffers having a neanderthal pig in charge. Grab her by the pussy becomes acceptable. I'm afraid I don't know enough about the economics, but the office of the president surely demands some modicum of respectability?

Emmanuelll · 14/07/2024 19:54

However, clearly violence in any case always wrong and the fact that Trump has called for violence himself does not mean that anyone should sink to his level.

XChrome · 14/07/2024 19:54

SpudleyLass · 14/07/2024 19:21

Yes - who was it he took the quote from again? Hanlon's Razor, wasn't it?

That was incredibly petty, even for the likes of you.

XChrome · 14/07/2024 20:12

FOJN · 14/07/2024 15:11

I think it tells you more about which side of the aisle has little respect for democracy.

Let's do look at assassinations and attempts on Republican Presidents.

Lincoln- killed by Confederate nut.
Garfield- killed by another Republican.
Reagan- killed by psychotic person to impress Jodie Foster.
McKinley- killed by an anarchist.

XChrome · 14/07/2024 20:13

cupcaske123 · 14/07/2024 16:01

Some might argue that extreme Islam is far right. The far right greatly admire the Taliban.

Yes, it absolutely is far right.

FusilliGeri · 14/07/2024 20:22

*Let's do look at assassinations and attempts on Republican Presidents.

Lincoln- killed by Confederate nut.
Garfield- killed by another Republican.
Reagan- killed by psychotic person to impress Jodie Foster.
McKinley- killed by an anarchist.*

I'm no expert but didn't Reagan die in his nineties?

Bluebonnet100 · 14/07/2024 20:22

wowzw · 14/07/2024 14:55

people need to stop with the hysterical rhetoric. A few days ago a democrat called Trump Hitler. Chants of "get rid of Trump at any cost"
Same has happened with Farage.
They might be right wing politicians but they're not as extreme as the hysteria would
have you believe.

Yes, it was President Biden that said that. Great role model.

coupdetonnerre · 14/07/2024 20:26

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XChrome · 14/07/2024 20:29

FusilliGeri · 14/07/2024 20:22

*Let's do look at assassinations and attempts on Republican Presidents.

Lincoln- killed by Confederate nut.
Garfield- killed by another Republican.
Reagan- killed by psychotic person to impress Jodie Foster.
McKinley- killed by an anarchist.*

I'm no expert but didn't Reagan die in his nineties?

Yes. Sorry about the brain fart.

XChrome · 14/07/2024 20:32

XChrome · 14/07/2024 20:12

Let's do look at assassinations and attempts on Republican Presidents.

Lincoln- killed by Confederate nut.
Garfield- killed by another Republican.
Reagan- killed by psychotic person to impress Jodie Foster.
McKinley- killed by an anarchist.

Yeesh. It should have said "Reagan shot by an anarchist."

Seems like a good time to listen to I Believe in a Thing Called Love by the Darkness.

SpudleyLass · 14/07/2024 20:38

XChrome · 14/07/2024 19:54

That was incredibly petty, even for the likes of you.

Well I bow to you, my superior

But it's true, your father was not the origin of that quote

SpudleyLass · 14/07/2024 20:39

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Corey Comperote was killed, behind Trump.

LuckyPeonies · 14/07/2024 20:41

Bluebonnet100 · 14/07/2024 20:22

Yes, it was President Biden that said that. Great role model.

And trump is a better role model? He foments violence at every opportunity, even against the judge & family (and the judge’s employees) who presided over his trial, election workers who simply did their jobs, and others.

SpudleyLass · 14/07/2024 20:44

XChrome · 14/07/2024 19:39

Dearest SpudleyLass;

"The Obama administration responded to the outrage by rushing to expand its capacity to handle the new migration wave at the border, to adapt an infrastructure built to handle single adult men, not families and children."

"The facility was controversial at the time, but it wasn’t until Trump’s zero-tolerance episode in spring 2018 that the facility came to symbolize the kind of administrative cruelty associated with the intentional separation of children from their parents by the government."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/kids-in-cages-debate-trump-obama/2020/10/23/8ff96f3c-1532-11eb-82af-864652063d61_story.html

Re white supremacy;

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/23484314/trump-fuentes-ye-dinner-white-nationalism-supremacy

Fred Trump was arrested for fighting with cops at a KKK rally. Vice News looked into it and reported that all the arrestees were robed marchers. If that isn't evidence that he was KKK, then I guess there is no such thing as evidence.

SO Obama started those camps.

Need more high esteemed sources on the second.

It's well reported the KKKthing only surfaced during 2016

And your dad isn't the original source of that quote

shuggles · 14/07/2024 20:54

@Messageinathrottle Pretty sure that was a casual link.

@XChrome You'd have to show me a casual link between jokes about a politician getting shot and politicians actually being shot for me to draw that conclusion.

It's a "causal" link.

"Causal" means relating to cause and effect.

"Casual" is when you wear your jeans instead of formal trousers.

Hatfullofwillow · 14/07/2024 21:00

shuggles · 14/07/2024 20:54

@Messageinathrottle Pretty sure that was a casual link.

@XChrome You'd have to show me a casual link between jokes about a politician getting shot and politicians actually being shot for me to draw that conclusion.

It's a "causal" link.

"Causal" means relating to cause and effect.

"Casual" is when you wear your jeans instead of formal trousers.

Is that from the anthropologist Levi-Strauss?

XChrome · 14/07/2024 21:05

shuggles · 14/07/2024 20:54

@Messageinathrottle Pretty sure that was a casual link.

@XChrome You'd have to show me a casual link between jokes about a politician getting shot and politicians actually being shot for me to draw that conclusion.

It's a "causal" link.

"Causal" means relating to cause and effect.

"Casual" is when you wear your jeans instead of formal trousers.

Oh, is it pick on typos day? Sorry, I missed the memo. I'll hunt for an excuse to play superior to somebody immediately.

A causal link has to be established by fact, not theory. You would have to show a direct connection which cannot be explained by coincidence or other factors. For example; there is a proven causal link between smoking and lung cancer.
I don't say it's not a decent theory that joking about a political assassination attempt could have a brutalizing effect. I'm just not ready to buy in. I have always found jokes bring people together rather than tear us apart. That's why people make jokes in eulogies. To share a laugh is connection and connection is comfort. You could also theorize that jokes at a funeral make a mockery of tragedy, which leads to desensitization.
That just hasn't been my experience.

Eduted- Just had to fix four more typos FFS. Not having the greatest day.

shuggles · 14/07/2024 21:09

@XChrome Oh, is it pick on typos day? Sorry, I missed the memo. I'll hunt for an excuse to play superior to somebody immediately.

It clearly wasn't a typo, and you wouldn't be the first person to confuse "causal" and "casual."

1dayatatime · 14/07/2024 21:12

Emmanuelll · 14/07/2024 19:37

What is it people think he will do?

They think he will withdraw US support for Ukraine. Which would embolden Putin to start firing nuclear weapons.

How exactly does the US withdrawing support from Ukraine mean that Russia will start firing nuclear weapons.

Yes it would definitely be throwing Ukraine under a bus but Russia would have got what they wanted so why the hell would they then start firing nuclear weapons.

Bizarre...

Linzi2377 · 14/07/2024 21:16

1dayatatime · 14/07/2024 21:12

How exactly does the US withdrawing support from Ukraine mean that Russia will start firing nuclear weapons.

Yes it would definitely be throwing Ukraine under a bus but Russia would have got what they wanted so why the hell would they then start firing nuclear weapons.

Bizarre...

Exactly it would lessen the threat of firing nuclear weapons!

Emmanuelll · 14/07/2024 21:17

Yes, it was President Biden that said that. Great role model.

Clearly he did not mean take a shot at him 🙄

Nanaof1 · 14/07/2024 21:20

XChrome · 14/07/2024 19:03

Naturally, your narrow personal experiences represent the entire scope of all human experience. 🙄

We had hundreds of them invade and terrorize our capital city for three weeks until they were hauled off to jail. They were not going to leave unless the government stepped down. They attacked people and made the downtown unliveable due to toxic fumes and noise. They tried to set fire to an apartment building. They shut down a border crossing as well. When arrested, they had a cache of weapons, which suggests they had intended an insurrection.
It was planned and funded by Trumpers, who got agitators to rile up moronic oil roughnecks and anti-vaxxers into believing their rights were being violated. Total bullshit of course, but those kind of lunatics will believe almost anything.

Try living next door to those crazies before you say the far right is not a problem. You have no fucking idea.

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They are a problem, just like the far-left. Just ask the people who were trapped in the CHOP/CHAZ zones and the families of the people they shot (2 fatally).

The one criminal murderer got only 171 months for shooting and killing a 19-year-old. Don't think any of the others have even been caught, as they've hidden their own quite well. I guess justice has a different meaning, depending upon many things.

XChrome · 14/07/2024 21:23

SpudleyLass · 14/07/2024 20:44

SO Obama started those camps.

Need more high esteemed sources on the second.

It's well reported the KKKthing only surfaced during 2016

And your dad isn't the original source of that quote

Did you not see what the purpose of the camps was supposed to be, then what Trump used them for?

Ah, the old genetic fallacy. You can't refute the facts, so you claim the source is suspect. Then it becomes your responsibility to justify that claim.

The KKK thing was reported by the NYT in 1927 when it happened.

boingboing.net/2015/09/09/1927-news-report-donald-trump.html

I did not say anything remotely like my dad wrote the original quote. What is with this extreme pettiness, bitching about my late father? Your investment in my family history is strange. Do you think you may have a few daddy issues that need working out?

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