Why does this country have very little compassion for the victims of grooming gangs?

[Louisaaa]

Firstly this is not a post about race! I understand men of all races have been involved in grooming gangs! This is mainly about why the British authorities and public have very little sympathy or will to try and solve the problem.

I find it horrendous how so many young girls have been exposed to the most horrific acts of rape, gang rape, murder, forced pregnancies throughout the UK over the decades etc...

Some of these girls where as young as 11!! Most where under 16 and grew up in care homes or came from very deprived backgrounds. Most where white.

When I see all the cases of this happening throughout the UK and hear how the POLICE, SOCIAL SERVICES, LOCAL COUNCIL and media gave it very little attention... Some of the documents showed that the council in Rotherham openly told it's staff to stop mentioning it in reports. The police would often lie blame with the victims and said it needed to tread carefully due to racial tension, and the social services would describe the men as their bfs..

• a girl of 16 had been raped by over 300 men before she turned 16
• some of them would disappear from care homes and where locked in flats for weeks where men would come rape them
• some girls disappeared completely (thought murdered
• some of them where trafficked around the country to be raped by other men
• some girls murdered
• 1400 girls raped in Rotherham under 16 and only 28 men have been convicted!!!

It shocks how people are still scared to talk about this or have no interest to do so... But when a woman is wolf whistled in the street.... Well conversations need to be had.

Is this because the children are white working class?
The majority of offenders in the cases are predominantly British Pakistani?
The children been brought up in care?

I do feel class played more a role, I feel if they were middle/upper class the authorities would have stamped it out immediately.

What makes you think that it gets little attention from services? I work in a related field and part of my role is working along side police, social care and other agencies involved in child exploitation and I can assure you it gets attention both regionally and nationally. There are specific police and social work depts for child exploitation, multi agency planning and liaison and much work is done to keep young people as safe as possible and interrupt exploitation - and use police powers where possible.
Unfortunately despite the best efforts some young people continue to be drawn into exploitative situations sadly. But there is a lot of work that goes on behind the scenes to try to keep them safe I can assure you. It's just it doesn't get reported in the media.

Wow, case in point here.

So not victim blaming, just blaming the victims?

@RubySloth they are children. Your attitude is disgusting

Ah, common sense. Far easier to suggest that than look into the systemic reasons why some children are so desperate for love and attention they end up on these situations. Why the adults supposed to look after them haven't, and why men see fit to behave this way.

But yes, blame the child for lack of common sense. 🙄

Say what you like but there is the "real world" and the real world.

The government openly reported that social services and police openly covered it up....

Like I said before 1400 girls raped in Rotherham, only 28 convictions so far.... 🤷🏼‍♀️

What an absolutely disgusting comment! Some of these men would threaten them and they manipulated them into friendship and then demanded sex.... As young as 11!!!

When they went to the police, they where ignored....

@RubySloth you need to do some reading around childhood ACEs and attachment, then perhaps you'll be qualified to comment on the behaviour of vulnerable children who've been brought up in care, or in other difficult life circumstances.
Obviously no mention of why adult men don't have the ""common sense" not to rape children 🤷

This is utterly disgusting. They are children

• a girl of 16 had been raped by over 300 men before she turned 16
• some of them would disappear from care homes and where locked in flats for weeks where men would come rape them
• some girls disappeared completely (thought murdered
• some of them where trafficked around the country to be raped by other men
• some girls murdered
• 1400 girls raped in Rotherham under 16 and only 28 men have been convicted!!!

And @RubySloth‘s response to these abuse is that ‘sympathy is hard to give out’ as they should have had more common sense.

WTF

I worked for a good few years in a community hit hard by grooming gangs. In the school I worked at we had children of groomed women in the same class as the groomers' 'proper family' children - half siblings who have no clue about the circumstances of their births. It was so difficult and there was a lot to consider when we had events where parents were invited.
My opinion (fwiw) is that little compassion was/is shown to the victims of grooming gangs because they were often gobby working class girls. I say that with zero judgement - those girls were tough and strong and they are managing as mothers. They were also absolutely convinced they were in relationships with these fucking men. I left there in 2022 and 100% this was still going on. Eastern European roma girls (Czech, Slovak, Romanian) were also being targeted.

You have absolutely no idea do you ?

Government statistics show that the majority of offenders are white.
Please don't say otherwise.

Exactly.

Piss off @RubySloth

Because it's traditional to designate some girls as sacrificial while others are kept pure from such desecrations as premarital sex (or, at least, too much of it with too many men). See Nadine Dorries and her ill-fated attempt to bring in compulsory abstinence-only sex education, but only for girls. That only works if there's a few girls you're willing to have used up by all those boys who need somewhere to sow their wild oats, while other girls are kept clean and virginal for whoever their future owners happen to be. People can comfortably think of girls who are victimised by grooming gangs as those kinds of girls, the ones who were probably always going to end up being used this way, and because their existence facilitates the fantasy of pure virginal brides and young men who get to play the field before settling down, the details around whether it was legal or consensual or abusive don't seem to matter.

@RubySloth - very glad MNHQ have deleted your comment because it was absolutely disgusting

I read your OP and was going to reply that of course people generally have sympathy for the victims of sexual exploitation. I suppose because I do and so do people I know, I would imagine. Then I read the first reply. Fucking hell. I was very, very wrong. Clearly some people really don’t have that compassion in them.

I don’t know the answers as to why these girls were so badly let down by the authorities and for so long. There’s probably a long list of reasons that are all completely unacceptable to most of us.

Agreed, I think many factors played a role...

• Race of victim Vs race of perpetrator (can cause racial tensions on community)

• class of victims, mainly working class, many in care homes in northern England.

• female victims, studies openly show women tend not be be believed in cases of rape by authorities

Comments was deleted before I could respond but fucking hell basically 'they knew what would happen, it's their fault'?! Fuck off!! Agree @Louisaaa disgusting.

I just do not understand why this has been allowed to go on for decades, & continues to happen now. Why has it been tolerated? Why not more outrage? Why not more prosecutions? I just can't fathom it.
From what I can see, there seems to be quite a bit of horror overseas about the rape of girls on an industrial scale in the UK.

It’s been going on for a very long time. This survivor of historical abuse does not fit the profile of working class/in care/deprived. She argues the case that grooming of girls for rape gangs is racially and religiously targeted.