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Help rid me of this weird woman - please!

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Justcouldnotbitemytongue · 10/07/2024 15:26

Apologies this is a bit long 😬. DH & I live in a v remote & rural part of the country, we took early retirement & moved here a few years back. It’s a lovely place & we’re happy & settled. The few (distant) neighbours we have are all nice. Friendly but not too friendly IYSWIM. DH & I go out now & again to the only pub round here & it’s always a good night.

A couple of years ago Zoe & Dan (not their real names) moved here, about five miles from us. He’s ok but I struggle with her. We’re roughly the same age but we have zero in common. She’s very right wing - pro fox hunting/blood sports, hates migrants & people on benefits. She’s not the sharpest pencil in the box & boasts that she’s never read a book in her life. Also believes weird conspiracy theories she reads on Facebook. Can drive but won’t so Dan has to take her everywhere. Consequently she’s stuck in the house a lot as he works part time. We’re chalk & cheese.

She’s started to text me & ask if they can join us in the pub. Hard to say no really - it’s a pub. Plus I know she hasn’t really got anyone else round here & I do (did!) feel a bit sorry for her. Because of the geography there’s a very small pool of potential friends.

Last night was a disaster - worst ever by a mile. She seemed a bit manic/hyper when we got there. I wondered if she was on something but she just kept saying she was excited as she hadn’t been out of the house for ages. At the best of times it’s hard to have an adult conversation with her but last night was terrible. Another couple who were there left as soon as decently possible. The DH’s talk about sport & get on pretty well but it’s impossible to talk as a four which would help dilute her. She just interrupts all the time, talks over them & paws at my arm to get my attention.

I’m pretty patient, & always put forward a reasonable view to balance her almost fascist opinions. Try also to not look at my watch too much. Everything I said last night she just laughed at weirdly & loudly. I asked her what was so funny & she just kept laughing - almost hysterically. It was so embarrassing. Like being back at junior school.

Later a woman was in the pub & sat behind me. Zoe was hyper - again pawing me & saying “look, look!! That’s a man isn’t it? They’re trans aren’t they? Go on look, look now!“ I snapped (v rare) & said a bit too loudly & sharply that she was being really rude & to stop it. She literally put on a pet lip.

Fast forward to the end of the night & I said we were heading home. Why? She asked. Because it’s nearly midnight & I live there I replied. Why? She again asked. Why do I live at home or why is it midnight? Why she just repeated “why”. On a loop. Whenever I said anything she just said why. I snapped again & said FFS Zoe you’re acting like a fucking toddler. Pet lip again.

Said goodnights, she said she’d had a lovely time 🙄. Meanwhile we headed in opposite directions. Me seething.

Congratulations if you’ve got this far btw.

Anyway - I couldn’t stand another night like that. So do I say something or do I just keep dodging her & her invites until she gets the message. It’s really spoilt the nice times we used to have there but I am not wasting another evening of my life listening to her spout that rubbish. The trouble is we’re a small community & do rely on each other. I’d also rather not fall out with anyone but how do I get shot of her without doing that?? I absolutely do not want to be friends. She maybe has one other person locally who messages her occasionally but that’s it. She’s NC with two of her three children (or maybe they’re NC with her) if that’s relevant.

So come on - please give me a steer, should I start dodging her messages & making excuses or should I just tell her I don’t enjoy her company?

You are not being unreasonable - start dodging.
You are being unreasonable- just tell her straight.

OP posts:
Doubledenim305 · 11/07/2024 18:02

Just ignore her.
Don't tell her straight.

Marine30 · 11/07/2024 18:05

LindorDoubleChoc · 10/07/2024 15:48

This is why I have a fear of village life!

😂😂

Thefsm · 11/07/2024 18:05

I think I’d actually be blunt. Text “I’m really sorry because I know you want to socialize and the community is small, but we have such very different views on everything and I don’t see any point in continuing a friendship at this time. I hope you find some new friends more suited to you. Best regards, x”

MelodyFinch · 11/07/2024 18:08

Your description reminds me of someone I knew who had Bipolar disorder and as she was getting manic her behaviours were similar. She could be very quiet and down as well, in turn. I can imagine that she might dominate your social life in time. Perhaps your DH will be told by her DH, If she has mental health problems and maybe give tips on how to helpfully communicate. You have already had suggestions on how to avoid her. I would try to be kind but distant.

Caroparo52 · 11/07/2024 18:09

You are not obliged to listen to twaddle and bollocks from anyone. As for sulking and rudeness and The Laughing.. Well you don't need that. I pity her poor husband.
So from now on be very vague about next meetings. If you are caught at pub then just say its a last minute decision and after initial pleasantries move away/go home/sit with other people. The bit about she's nc with family is quite telling. Just that poor husband.. I think your dh could just forge ahead with Boy's nights but definitely no couple things as you're not available. Don't fall out in a small village. She sounds " different" ondrugs

AnnieSnap · 11/07/2024 18:09

It sounds horrendous, especially as you live in such a small community. I’d probably start with ghosting and hope that she takes the hint. If she doesn’t, I’d tell her I’m sorry, but “we’re never going to enjoy each other’s company”. In my case, I specified to a person with similar views that “I’m a card carrying leftie, vegetarian feminist. In this case, I’d also add a supporter of animal rights and might even throw in that I’m a Hunt Saboteur (I’m not, but it might get your point across). This approach, saying you will both not enjoy mutual conversation, might result in less drama since it gives her a bit of face-saving. Good luck. I look forward to your updates.

Maisiesmum123 · 11/07/2024 18:15

My initial reaction would be to not respond to any messages from her and, if I saw her, tell her straight that her behaviour last time was unacceptable.
My thoughts now are that she sounds ill, possibly bipolar. I had a neighbour who was bipolar. She latched on to me, pawed at my arm for attention, was irrational quite a lot of the time and very needy. She was also very lonely as most people avoided her. Is there a chance that your DH could have a quiet word with her DH to check that she’s ok.
If she’s not bipolar or similar, she’s annoying (putting it politely) and I’d drop her like a hot potato.

Omgblueskys · 11/07/2024 18:20

KikiShaLeeBopDeBopBop · 10/07/2024 15:41

Pouting / pushing out bottom lip I think, like toddlers do when they're sulking

Also known as titty lip

Elle7 · 11/07/2024 18:22

I’d just be thankful that Zoe lives 5 miles away rather than next door.

What does your DH think?

GoldEagle · 11/07/2024 18:24

HungryLittleCrocodile · 10/07/2024 15:39

Yeah, what is a pet lip? Confused

It when you tell once of your kids off and they stick their bottom lip out in a huff. It's a northern saying if I recall.

Ferniefernfernfern · 11/07/2024 18:29

“Hi Zoe, I’m so sorry but I’m not interested in pursuing a friendship. Please don’t take it personally-we are chalk and cheese! See you around town.” If you ghost this person, she will be seeking answers and won’t leave you alone. If you are straightforward, she will be embarrassed and keep it to herself.

Whenwillitgetwarm · 11/07/2024 18:31

You’re not going to be able to ghost her in a small village. You’re going to have to tell her you find her views offensive. Tell her you have a trans relative or something.

carrotsfortea · 11/07/2024 18:37

I hate ghosting culture too and thoroughly disapprove of people ghosting people if they've been good friends. That being said, there are a lot of people in life you have more distanced connections with that you don't have to be best friends with. I wouldn't ghost as in block and ignore. In a small place you will bump into them anyway and people are interdependent. But it's fine to pull back a bit (a lot). Refuse invitations, find excuses, be vague, hope her enthusiasm dies down. Be friendly and wave, be helpful etc without having to spend lots of social time with them. If they try to invite themselves again say you want to spend time with your partner.

Your post was funny by the way. I did feel for you. Partners can be so rubbish sometimes not rescuing you from that barrage of wittery.

Julimia · 11/07/2024 18:38

A spoilt child pout

Julimia · 11/07/2024 18:40

Hopefully you may have done enough last night. If not just tell her straight, but make sure you are not alone with her when you do.

Rockchicknana · 11/07/2024 18:42

Julyshouldbesunny · 10/07/2024 15:36

Tell her you have a new number and give her a fake one..... If she sees you tell her phone glitch. Change your night at the pub for starters. Or tell her you are hoping to set up a swinger club/ouiji board group / book club and are they interested. She might ghost you!!

Oh good God don't do that!! She might be up for a bit of swinging! She sounds nutty enough!

Sporadica · 11/07/2024 18:47

I knew when I read the OP that there'd be a string of comments asking "what is a pet lip??", complete with confused emojis. People have zero inference skills. It's extremely obvious from the context provided what is meant by "pet lip", even if you haven't heard the expression before.

It's mainly the phrasing "she literally put on a pet lip" that's confusing, I think. I've never heard the term before and might have associated it with pouting, but the "literally put on" had me imagining false moustaches made out of kitten hair. Literally.

DingleDongBellEnd · 11/07/2024 18:48

I feel sorry for her, even though I'd not be able to tolerate it myself either. I don't think you should be up front, you'll upset her and might end up with the whole community deciding you're unkind and not to be spoken to. Just try to keep your distance and avoid prolonged encounters.

Noirdesir · 11/07/2024 18:53

Ferniefernfernfern · 11/07/2024 18:29

“Hi Zoe, I’m so sorry but I’m not interested in pursuing a friendship. Please don’t take it personally-we are chalk and cheese! See you around town.” If you ghost this person, she will be seeking answers and won’t leave you alone. If you are straightforward, she will be embarrassed and keep it to herself.

YES this. If you ghost her she'll just keep on and on pushing harder.

Just say, we are so very different that us being friends simply isnt going to work but I am sure I'll see you around and leave it at that. If she pushes for more answers ignore and dont engage.

I think ghosting a person like this will simply make them more persistent and I dont like ghosting- just be honest, saying you are different isnt a lie, its the truth.

bergamotorange · 11/07/2024 18:55

Justcouldnotbitemytongue · 11/07/2024 14:08

Thanks for all the further responses. Will clarify a couple of further things.

First Zoe does exist. A PP implied I was making her up - I can assure them I’m not. If anything I understated her views. She’s been banned from Facebook for some of them.

I think she is very lonely & isolated. But that’s not a problem for me to solve. She could easily drop her DH off at work & continue on to the nearest big town (20 miles or so) for a coffee, shopping whatever. She chooses not to.

She also chooses not to work - it’s not because she can’t, it’s because she won’t.

Have to admit I never thought of cocaine but maybe that would explain it. I think the PPs who said it was weeks of pent up energy/emotion/conversation etc were on the money though.

Finally to the poster who said it must be great being me 🙄 well it is actually 😁.

Anyhow if anyone’s interested how things develop, I’ll post an update when there’s news.

Thank you again Mumsnetters - really appreciate the input.

You don't know that she could work, because you don't actually know her medical/personal history.

You also don't know that she 'chooses' not to go to the town, again because you don;t know here medical/personal history.

You have no responsibility to her and the best thing to do would be to stop socialising with her, but without telling her why.

But don't assume you know what is really going on in her life. She might have told you anything but it could all be made up. People with complex issues often choose not to tell people.

Lulu49 · 11/07/2024 19:01

She sounds like she has ADHD. Could you ask your hubby to speak to her husband and explain that you are finding her really difficult. He might be able to shed light on what's going on with her.

notwavingbutdrowning1 · 11/07/2024 19:02

Could you ask your hubby to speak to her husband and explain that you are finding her really difficult. He might be able to shed light on what's going on with her.

Honestly, why should the OP have to? She doesn't want to understand her, she wants to avoid her.

Susie2shoed · 11/07/2024 19:03

As hard and as difficult as it might be, I would just have to say to her that you are just not compatible and you don’t want to be friends. Tell her you have nothing in common, that her opinions aren’t yours and leave it at that. Life is far too short for melodrama and false friends. Good luck

CountessWindyBottom · 11/07/2024 19:06

You’ve had great advice @Justcouldnotbitemytongue and I’m glad that you’re taking it. In all honesty, this woman sounds completely unhinged so a showdown of any sort is inadvisable. Muting her/not answering the phone/never being available should suffice. And it’s a blessing that she chooses not to drive so no risk of her pulling up to your home unannounced.

Lollipop81 · 11/07/2024 19:18

She sounds mentally ill. I would be ignoring her texts, no point in creating drama.