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Help rid me of this weird woman - please!

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Justcouldnotbitemytongue · 10/07/2024 15:26

Apologies this is a bit long 😬. DH & I live in a v remote & rural part of the country, we took early retirement & moved here a few years back. It’s a lovely place & we’re happy & settled. The few (distant) neighbours we have are all nice. Friendly but not too friendly IYSWIM. DH & I go out now & again to the only pub round here & it’s always a good night.

A couple of years ago Zoe & Dan (not their real names) moved here, about five miles from us. He’s ok but I struggle with her. We’re roughly the same age but we have zero in common. She’s very right wing - pro fox hunting/blood sports, hates migrants & people on benefits. She’s not the sharpest pencil in the box & boasts that she’s never read a book in her life. Also believes weird conspiracy theories she reads on Facebook. Can drive but won’t so Dan has to take her everywhere. Consequently she’s stuck in the house a lot as he works part time. We’re chalk & cheese.

She’s started to text me & ask if they can join us in the pub. Hard to say no really - it’s a pub. Plus I know she hasn’t really got anyone else round here & I do (did!) feel a bit sorry for her. Because of the geography there’s a very small pool of potential friends.

Last night was a disaster - worst ever by a mile. She seemed a bit manic/hyper when we got there. I wondered if she was on something but she just kept saying she was excited as she hadn’t been out of the house for ages. At the best of times it’s hard to have an adult conversation with her but last night was terrible. Another couple who were there left as soon as decently possible. The DH’s talk about sport & get on pretty well but it’s impossible to talk as a four which would help dilute her. She just interrupts all the time, talks over them & paws at my arm to get my attention.

I’m pretty patient, & always put forward a reasonable view to balance her almost fascist opinions. Try also to not look at my watch too much. Everything I said last night she just laughed at weirdly & loudly. I asked her what was so funny & she just kept laughing - almost hysterically. It was so embarrassing. Like being back at junior school.

Later a woman was in the pub & sat behind me. Zoe was hyper - again pawing me & saying “look, look!! That’s a man isn’t it? They’re trans aren’t they? Go on look, look now!“ I snapped (v rare) & said a bit too loudly & sharply that she was being really rude & to stop it. She literally put on a pet lip.

Fast forward to the end of the night & I said we were heading home. Why? She asked. Because it’s nearly midnight & I live there I replied. Why? She again asked. Why do I live at home or why is it midnight? Why she just repeated “why”. On a loop. Whenever I said anything she just said why. I snapped again & said FFS Zoe you’re acting like a fucking toddler. Pet lip again.

Said goodnights, she said she’d had a lovely time 🙄. Meanwhile we headed in opposite directions. Me seething.

Congratulations if you’ve got this far btw.

Anyway - I couldn’t stand another night like that. So do I say something or do I just keep dodging her & her invites until she gets the message. It’s really spoilt the nice times we used to have there but I am not wasting another evening of my life listening to her spout that rubbish. The trouble is we’re a small community & do rely on each other. I’d also rather not fall out with anyone but how do I get shot of her without doing that?? I absolutely do not want to be friends. She maybe has one other person locally who messages her occasionally but that’s it. She’s NC with two of her three children (or maybe they’re NC with her) if that’s relevant.

So come on - please give me a steer, should I start dodging her messages & making excuses or should I just tell her I don’t enjoy her company?

You are not being unreasonable - start dodging.
You are being unreasonable- just tell her straight.

OP posts:
ThatLilacMoose · 11/07/2024 00:07

OP I knew a person like this, said human thought we were “friends”. They would ask to catch up a lot and had very similar views to your neighbour. At one point I decided to end all contact by ignoring their communications but they never got the message and actually turned up on my doorstep out of the blue.. needless to say you must be polite but FIRM

Verbena17 · 11/07/2024 00:45

If she invites you/wants to join you at the pub again, I would just say something like ‘think we’re just going to go and have a quiet evening at the pub tonight - just me and DH. Had a busy week at work and want to just chill on our own tonight.’

Say that every time until she gets the message.

EnglishBluebell · 11/07/2024 01:19

GinForBreakfast · 10/07/2024 17:06

I cannot bear people touching me to get my attention or to emphasise a point. I have no filter and usually end up shouting "don't touch me!" so I feel your pain.

TBH I would block her number.

That behaviour you describe here, makes you sound unhinged, sorry!

EnglishBluebell · 11/07/2024 01:21

Grammarnut · 10/07/2024 17:34

Oh dear. We wouldn't get on either. I am a clause 4 Bennite socialist, which means I am also a Brexiteer (it goes with the territory) and back nationalisation of utilities and some transport. I support fox hunting (hunting in general, in fact, and I'm not that keen on fox hunting but hunting for food and keeping down vermin are both high on my list of useful things - and my late DH used to hunt when he was a small farmer, hares, rabbits - and to protect all you must support all, my DS like shooting (air rifles at tin cans, so nothing too lethal) and has taught his DS and DD). I think immigration needs controlling because the country I live in cannot take the weight of infrastructure needed for a population that has nearly doubled in 40 years (only 14% countryside now, according to some) and also unlimited immigration that does not support the local culture (women's rights, workers' rights, freedom of religion, rule of law and not of men, that people wear what they like, etc and don't get raped because they look like prostitutes) will destroy that culture. I am also GC, which means though I won't be pointing out loudly a TiM, I will object to him being in the ladies' loo. I don't hate people on benefits - which tends to mean one-parent families in my experience - but do think they need targetting better, e.g. all parents, working or not to get support for childcare which they can use for nurseries or SAHM, as they choose.
I don't know what sort of pencil I might be, but I suspect we might struggle to have a conversation in the pub. Or maybe not - we could discuss other things: gardening, food, Richard III (interest of mine), travel, women's rights maybe?
The point I am making is that she might not be as weird as you imagine. The other point is that you live in a rural area and people are your resource. You probably need to try to get on with her - she might share more views with your rural neighbours than you think - esp. re hunting, which tends to be a rural thing; foxes are not welcome in hen houses, nor seagulls among the lamb. They may all think you are weird. Just a thought.

You really like labelling yourself don't you?

Yalta · 11/07/2024 01:22

I think she sounds either bipolar or just very very lonely.

How much time does her husband spend with her. Have they moved to some rural idyll and whilst her husband is getting out and going to work his wife is left alone in the house and probably doesn’t see anyone apart from her dh who might not interact with her that much from one day to the next.
So when she does go out she feels like she has to do a fortnight of talking and laughing and communicating in a few hours because she knows she won’t see anyone till the next week at least. Which comes over as completely unhinged

If she is lonely in her position I think getting a job or moving to a city would be better for her but I doubt her dh would as he is probably very happy with his work and life in general

if she is bipolar I wonder if her meds need changing

strawberryteacake · 11/07/2024 01:49

She just interrupts all the time, talks over them & paws at my arm to get my attention.

Oh my god. The arm pawers... I usually diagnose them with non-specific cluster B, needy division. But along with everything else you've described, endured, and fear becoming a regular part of your social life, General Arsehole Disorder suits very well.

YANBU. Her PD, her meds, her loneliness, whatever others have come up with to explain her behaviour, is not your problem to salve or solve.

Distance yourself by whatever means necessary.

strawberryteacake · 11/07/2024 01:51

She sounds like the type who might fall out with you over any perceived slight, so I wouldn’t stress too much about her falling out with you when you actually want her gone. There isn’t an outcome here that will make her happy, so you may as well go for the one most likely to make you happy.

I think this is very good advice. Hard to implement, but needs must.

Garlickest · 11/07/2024 02:26

PinkQuail · 10/07/2024 22:14

You all sound like wonderful people NOT. If she has MH have you not heard of a bit more compassion and understanding.

Hahahaha! You go ahead; set yourself up as free therapist and support animal to every embarrassing pain in the arse who latches on to you. Give yourself a nice big pat on the back as you get home from yet another nerve-jangling, socially-suicidal encounter with the understandably friendless.

#BeKindToMyBoundaries

coupdetonnerre · 11/07/2024 02:47

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RamonaRamirez · 11/07/2024 06:52

I have someone like this in my village

she asks to go out etc, but it is such a shame the mobile coverage in our area is so poor and also I don’t check my messsges very often, so J often miss her texts/calls. Also, the evenings she is free I am already going out.

such a shame

Catsmere · 11/07/2024 07:08

ActualChips · 10/07/2024 16:48

Tell her you're an immigrant. Or identify as a fox.

An immigrant fox on benefits!

housethatbuiltme · 11/07/2024 07:57

venus7 · 10/07/2024 19:29

'Being racist' is not 'just personality'.

'Personality refers to the enduring characteristics and behavior that comprise a person's unique adjustment to life, including major traits, interests, drives, values, self-concept, abilities, and emotional patterns.'

Being a racist is part of your personality. A major personality trait is morals, a major morality trait is the ability to be empathic with others of different backgrounds.

Being racist is not a trait of Bipolar, Schizophrenia, BPD etc... but it is a personality trait.

pinkpillowlady · 11/07/2024 08:00

EnglishBluebell · 11/07/2024 01:21

You really like labelling yourself don't you?

I think the poster is trying to make a point…

pinkyredrose · 11/07/2024 09:20

PinkQuail · 10/07/2024 22:14

You all sound like wonderful people NOT. If she has MH have you not heard of a bit more compassion and understanding.

Everyone has mental health.

venus7 · 11/07/2024 09:21

housethatbuiltme · 11/07/2024 07:57

'Personality refers to the enduring characteristics and behavior that comprise a person's unique adjustment to life, including major traits, interests, drives, values, self-concept, abilities, and emotional patterns.'

Being a racist is part of your personality. A major personality trait is morals, a major morality trait is the ability to be empathic with others of different backgrounds.

Being racist is not a trait of Bipolar, Schizophrenia, BPD etc... but it is a personality trait.

Funny; Martin Luther King never mentioned it.

GinForBreakfast · 11/07/2024 10:17

EnglishBluebell · 11/07/2024 01:19

That behaviour you describe here, makes you sound unhinged, sorry!

So be it. I find it a gross intrusion for people to assume they can touch other people. Let's normalise personal space again!

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 11/07/2024 10:32

ActualChips · 10/07/2024 16:48

Tell her you're an immigrant. Or identify as a fox.

Or tell her you’re on the dole.🤣. That’ll soon make her scarper.

Biggleslefae · 11/07/2024 12:43

I think it would be easy to get rid of this woman, you'd just need to be a bit rude, a bit off with her, etc.
The problem is that op feels unable to do this. In other words she feels unable to curb her people pleasing impulses.

PerkyMintDeer · 11/07/2024 13:10

GinForBreakfast · 11/07/2024 10:17

So be it. I find it a gross intrusion for people to assume they can touch other people. Let's normalise personal space again!

When I saw that reply, I didn't find YOUR behaviour unhinged at all - what's with the space invaders lol?! Bizarre that it's "unhinged" if you eventually get fed up with being pawed incessantly and are expected to just put up with such annoying behaviour.

Justcouldnotbitemytongue · 11/07/2024 14:08

Thanks for all the further responses. Will clarify a couple of further things.

First Zoe does exist. A PP implied I was making her up - I can assure them I’m not. If anything I understated her views. She’s been banned from Facebook for some of them.

I think she is very lonely & isolated. But that’s not a problem for me to solve. She could easily drop her DH off at work & continue on to the nearest big town (20 miles or so) for a coffee, shopping whatever. She chooses not to.

She also chooses not to work - it’s not because she can’t, it’s because she won’t.

Have to admit I never thought of cocaine but maybe that would explain it. I think the PPs who said it was weeks of pent up energy/emotion/conversation etc were on the money though.

Finally to the poster who said it must be great being me 🙄 well it is actually 😁.

Anyhow if anyone’s interested how things develop, I’ll post an update when there’s news.

Thank you again Mumsnetters - really appreciate the input.

OP posts:
girlswillbegirls · 11/07/2024 17:45

Please OP keep us updated. I was the poster saying your experience reminded me to an episode of Baby Reindeer in Netflix. I do think you could write a book.
Looking forward to your updates.
Best of luck!!

Mtlso · 11/07/2024 17:54

If she hates trans people so much, tell her your trans.

ItcanbeDone · 11/07/2024 17:55

Lemonade2011 · 10/07/2024 15:46

It’s a petted lip I think. I’d just avoid her couldn’t be arsed sitting with someone like her sorry

Think you might be right, though we always said 'Pet lip' and I thought it meant petulant lol. Hey ho, you live n learn!
And same, life's too short to waste on listening to fascist right wing drivel in your spare time!!

Ayebutnaw · 11/07/2024 17:56

Write a book?

No.

MrsCooper84 · 11/07/2024 18:01

It’s not your responsibility to make sure people have friends. Harsh but true.