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Partners parents are overinvolved

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Creativeaura84 · 09/07/2024 07:09

This is a long narration, and I don’t know where exactly to start, so I apologise if this is all over the place and very long.
I (39, f) have been in a relationship with a guy (38) for close to 11 months. We met last year in September, and both have one child each - girls aged 11 (mine) and 15 (his). Our daughters got along quite well from the start, though there have been a few tricky situations where his daughter talked about some rather age-inappropriate things with my child. We discussed boundaries with her and the types of conversations that aren’t ideal to discuss with an eleven-year-old.

He has full custody of his child as she decided she did not want to have much to do with her mum due to her mum’s mental health issues. He met his daughter’s mum when he was quite young, and it was his first relationship. She got pregnant, and the relationship kind of took a turn for the worse after that. My bf says his ex may have BPD and is also worried his daughter might be showing some signs of having it, too.

However, my issue has more to do with his parents. His parents live about two and a half hours away. I met them about two months after we started dating, which I felt was a bit soon, but he said he is very close to them, and his daughter had told them about me on a visit they had with them. His daughter knew about me a bit early because a message from me once came up on his phone while he was driving, and she was in the car. As a curious girl, she kept digging until he told her we were dating. The first time I met his family was very awkward as they all came down to see him (his parents, his sister and brother-in-law and two kids).
His mum was very aloof and rather cold towards me at first, but his dad seemed to be more chatty, and I got the sense that he was the one they all looked up to as he tends to dominate conversations, but his mum doesn’t talk much but can be very traditional-minded and opinionated about some things. They eventually warmed up to me as I can be quite calm and friendly, and I guess they didn’t see me as a threat. Just to add, my parents live in a different country, and I haven’t seen them for a few years, but I keep in regular contact with them over the phone, and they have met my bf, but I don’t divulge too much about my relationship with them. To be clear, I'm very respectful towards his folks and try to find common grounds of interests so we have something to talk about, though after a while my introverted self just needs a mental break. I also help his mum out with whatever chores she is doing when she is around.

The feeling I got from the outset was that he was very close to his parents, and he did tell me they have always been very supportive of him, even when he was going through custody battles with his ex. My bf also has an ex-wife (not the mother of his child) who he divorced a few years ago. He told me that the main reason they broke up was because of too much family involvement on his ex’s side, as her family wanted him to prioritise her instead of always putting his daughter first. He said her family also came over quite often and spent an indefinite number of days at their place. The thing is, his parents also come over for the entire weekend at least once a month or sometimes once every two months if he goes over to see them before then. I am now wondering if his ex wife had her parents come around often and without much announcement as a way of getting even with his own parents.

In the beginning of our relationship, I did ask how often his parents would come for the weekend, and he said it was not too often, but as time went on, I realised there was a level of enmeshment happening as he talked to his dad every day for hours sometimes and tells him almost everything happening in his life, including my life. When I moved apartments and was having issues getting my rental bond back in time, he was sending updates to his dad and also sending photos of my new place to him. I felt there was nothing he didn’t tell them about, which weirded me out. And I have observed that he is not able to make major life decisions without consulting with them. It concerned me a bit as well because his dad has some strong and strange views and conspiracy theories about things like not wanting my bf to put any photos of him and his mum on social media as they aren’t on social media at all. Some of these views come off as a bit paranoid.

Last Christmas, I agreed to go over with him to have lunch with his family, only to end up spending the whole day there as his parents had expected that he would spend that time with them. They also spent the New Year’s holiday with us, which I didn’t mind so much as I know holidays are usually a time to spend with family. However, I have found it increasingly difficult to spend huge amounts of time with them as they come across as a bit controlling and want things done their way. For instance , they make comments about how late we sleep in (9 or 10 am) as they are usually up quite early when they are at his place for the weekendI don’t usually have. Also, I tend not to have lunch as early as they do and usually have an early dinner and skip lunch most days. However, his parents were not happy about this and made some remarks about it being important that I join them for lunch. Also, I got my bf a sewing machine for his Christmas gift as he said he would like one to use for mending stuff. His parents made it a point to get me to learn how to use it, even though the machine was meant for their son, not me. To keep the peace, I gave in to his mum showing me how to use it and also found I did not feel at ease cooking while they were around as she would come to the kitchen and make comments about how I cooked differently from how she did.

During the Easter holidays, they wanted us to come over to spend time with them. I did not have any issues with that, but I felt the sleeping arrangements were a bit odd. They live in a three-bedroom house, the parents have a room to themselves, my bf’s daughter has her own room and there is a spare room, which used to be my bf’s room when he was living there. His room was the room they prepared for my daughter and me to sleep in.

The entire house is like a time capsule as my boyfriend said his parents are very set in their ways and refuse to change anything, which means his room still had a single bed in it (the bed he used while he was living with them), so this meant that my daughter slept on the single bed and I had to sleep on an air mattress, while my bf slept in the living room. It was rather uncomfortable for me to sleep on the air mattress as it was a bit low on the ground, and I got very cold at night.

I wondered why they wouldn’t change the bed to at least a double or queen bed if they wanted their grown son and his partner to come over on occasions.

There were other things that made me feel uneasy about staying with them like the strange rules of not using or charging phones in the rooms. All phones had to be charged in the living room. My bf also said that he and his brother were never given the key to the house even while they lived there and only his parents have a key. Also, at the entrance of the house, there is an open study area and on the walls are seductive wall posters of two girls (I don’t want to mention the celebrities as that might give too much away). They also have a bookshelf in the living area, and I was going through the books/magazines they had, only to find some were porn magazines, which I found really weird and inappropriate to be put there. At first, I thought it was perhaps posters and magazines from my bf or his brother while they were still living there, but my bf said they weren’t and they were put there by his dad!
This brings me to the next point of discomfort with his parents. There seems to be something a bit off with how his dad and his daughter ‘play’ with each other. There seems to be a lot of body contact when they are having fake fights. I really do hope that I'm overreacting, but there have been a few occasions where things feel off. Also, when he is around, he goes into her room to hang with her and the door is closed for what seems like a long period of time. He also is there with her late at night when she should be asleep, and I wondered if this was why the sleeping arrangement at their place was set up that way as I would’ve thought my daughter and his daughter would have a room to themselves while I and my bf had his room. Don’t get me wrong, I have encountered close granddad and granddaughter relationships before, and my dad is quite close to my brother and sister’s kid. I think it can be a very wonderful and adorable relationship, but this one just seems.. off. The daughter also spends half of the school holidays with them and they are very strict about her spending that time with them.

After that first time spent at his parents' place, I decided I didn’t really want to go there with my daughter any longer and would also limit the amount of time we spent with his parents as I just did not feel I could be myself with them. So, on the weekends, when they come over to stay – they come on Friday night and leave on Sunday night. I usually try to make that a weekend when my daughter and I can just hang out together, catch up with other friends, or do some other chores. However, my bf has noticed this and asked why I have suddenly decided not to spend weekends with him when they are over or go over with him to their place. He says that I'm one of the few partners that his parents actually like and he doesn't understand why I am suddenly not available when they're around.

It’s hard to be honest about how I feel without offending my boyfriend, but I told him that I am not trying to dictate how he spends time with them and even encouraged him to see them as often as he wants, but I wouldn’t be able to spend that same amount of time with them. Also, when they are around, my bf spends most of the day doing things with his dad like DIY stuff around the house or going out to the hardware store for hours, so I end up not spending any quality time with him while they are around. My daughter also isn’t keen on being around them as his mum can be very strict and tends to criticise everything the girls do, while his dad is also not really someone she feels comfortable around. She says she leaves my bf’s daughter’s bedroom when he comes in and starts rough-playing with his granddaughter, as it makes her uncomfortable.

To make a compromise, I suggested that I come over for lunch or dinner while they are around, but I feel pressured to spend more time with them and my boyfriend is getting very upset about the fact that I don’t want to spend the whole weekend with them. My bf is not ok with my wanting to keep a distance and says what happens when we eventually decide to move in together. It seems like he is unable to stand up to his parents at all. Am I being unreasonable for pushing back on this?

OP posts:
AmIreallyThisAge · 13/07/2024 17:50

I'd say this. The porn thing is weird. But one ofy best friends has BPD and it's a cruel characterisation to assume that because the Mum has it that the daughter also does.

Report it to her school or the police as you may be the only adult who sees there is something wrong here.

scottishGirl · 13/07/2024 18:58

Please speak to his daughters school or social work with your concerns.

Lovemyones · 14/07/2024 08:52

Why would any grandad need to be in his 15 year old granddaughters room through the night with the door closed?
With regard to the magazines - that is definitely a red flag. The noises however, are actually something that I was worrying about with my son's friends, he started copying them with the strange sounds and it eventually turned out it was from the 'can I get a hoya' viral meme. So they don't necessarily mean anything, but given all the other things, you are right worrying. Trust your gut and take the advice of the suggestions of where to report it. Better to be proven wrong than right.
Furthermore given the strange behaviour from this family could it be that the girls mother is actually nothing of the sort of person you have been told? As you only have this families version of events? What if the girls been poisoned against her and they wanted her out the way to do as they wish. Mental health issues are a very sexist, and gaslighting way some men have managed to discredit women through the ages. Afterall women are hysterical (derived from a greek word meaning uterus if you weren't aware) aren't they 🙄
Is there a way to ask the daughter exactly why she doesn't want to see her mother?
Hope everything works out anyway. Good luck.

CherryJellyBean2024 · 14/07/2024 14:23

The things which are major red flags for me is that your boyfriend thinks it’s acceptable behaviour for his father and his teenage daughter to be behind closed doors for lengths of time. If it was innocent e.g helping with homework that kind of thing then the door would be open surely? Or they would be in the lounge etc. It sounds like the mum knows exactly what’s going on and she put you and your daughter in a room together to stop anything from happening. And the fact there is porn so close to hand is just downright out of order and they are all fine with it?

Just think about this OP, if the father is a paedo, then at some point the grand daughter will be ‘too old’ for him and by that time you might be in over your head and your daughter will be next in line. I would cut all ties immediately and run for the hills from this weird set up. Is the ex the one with mental problems or have they told this to so many people then actually believe it because maybe, like you, she was suspicious and raised concerns? Likewise with the ex wife? How do you know they won’t start manipulating your daughter to make her think you are the weird one and she will be another victim in their incestuous relationship.

Trust your gut and get as far away from them as you can!

NoThanksymm · 14/07/2024 15:52

Ok I got like halfway through and gave up.

this isn’t for you. Just end it. It won’t get better.

Yeah some strange things in there like your nearly 40yo bf over sharing, but also some simple politeness, like if someone doesn’t have Facebook, don’t put pictures of them on Facebook. And you’re nearly 40 too, this shouldn’t bother you.

anyway. Just end it. No point continuing, unless they are really good in bed, In which case continue that and start detangling your actual lives.

PloddingAlong21 · 14/07/2024 18:01

I can’t believe all that detail and you felt it really important to not reveal the names of celebrities on a poster.

sleeptight1 · 14/07/2024 18:24

I have to say that when I read that the FIL had been saying to your partner that he likes you, I wondered whether this was because you have a young daughter to groom. I read this thread on Friday night and found it so creepy that I had nightmares that night.

Please leave your partner and then go to Social services and report your concerns. This is wrong in so many levels. Wishing you all the best when you are free from this crazy set up.

AA23 · 14/07/2024 23:12

RUN

Gretty264 · 15/07/2024 10:28

I actually think you are a problem here too. You are micro-analysing everything to see what it may relate to and then expecting to be able to push his family to one side so that you can live a happy life with your head buried in the sand. Are you genuinely worried for his daughter? If so then a normal person would report it! You truly can’t care for him that much if you don’t care that his daughter is potentially being abused so why are you looking for a way to continue the relationship? Your behaviour is very weird here too, especially as you have a daughter too so should be concerned about his. It’s not going to work so just leave and learn to get in you chi more with your emotions as you seem to be trying to edit an alarming situation into a happy place

Creativeaura84 · 15/07/2024 12:25

Gretty264 · 15/07/2024 10:28

I actually think you are a problem here too. You are micro-analysing everything to see what it may relate to and then expecting to be able to push his family to one side so that you can live a happy life with your head buried in the sand. Are you genuinely worried for his daughter? If so then a normal person would report it! You truly can’t care for him that much if you don’t care that his daughter is potentially being abused so why are you looking for a way to continue the relationship? Your behaviour is very weird here too, especially as you have a daughter too so should be concerned about his. It’s not going to work so just leave and learn to get in you chi more with your emotions as you seem to be trying to edit an alarming situation into a happy place

@Gretty264 It's people like you who make it hard for other women to voice out their fears without feeling like they are being judged or shamed. Your response comes across as rather sanctimonious, but with all due respect, I don't even know who you are. You are just an anonymous keyboard warrior that spews advice that you yourself probably don't even take.

There's a lot I haven't included in the already long narrative I wrote about the positive aspects of my relationship. Also, it's all well and good for you to tell me to rush and report this issue when 1. I don't have any concrete proof of what's happening. 2. The minute I report this, my ex and his family will know it's me, which would automatically put me and my daughter at risk of retaliation 3. Talking to his daughter about this is the same as confronting her GD as she tells him almost everything! If indeed there's abuse, the psychology of the abused and abuser relationship isn't so straightforward (Stockholm Syndrome). I need to be more tactful about how I go about reporting this issue and I don't think when you were writing from your high moral ground you thought about all these things. Very easy for you to breath your righteous fire and brimstone when none of this is happening to you. And please, don't tell me it can't be you. That's what you would say when in actual fact we don't know what you can, or cannot take. You're just a stranger that can say virtually anything to make herself feel good in the moment.

OP posts:
PoddleOn · 15/07/2024 13:21

As hard as it may seem, you need to end the relationship for your sake and the sake of your daughter.
Raise a safeguarding concern with your bf’s daughter’s school, then turn your back on the whole thing and don’t look back.
Your bf is a product of his environment and won’t understand your concerns, these issues will only become worse the longer you stay.
Don’t invest any more time or effort into this relationship.

Schenore · 15/07/2024 13:48

You must report this. Try doing some social stories with the girl and 'pants' work. She might disclose to you. Tell your partner, he's completely under the parents control but at least you have done everything you can to protect that little girl who has already been through so much, from harm. Report to MASH ASAP

Daisyblue77 · 18/07/2024 14:55

Creativeaura84 · 15/07/2024 12:25

@Gretty264 It's people like you who make it hard for other women to voice out their fears without feeling like they are being judged or shamed. Your response comes across as rather sanctimonious, but with all due respect, I don't even know who you are. You are just an anonymous keyboard warrior that spews advice that you yourself probably don't even take.

There's a lot I haven't included in the already long narrative I wrote about the positive aspects of my relationship. Also, it's all well and good for you to tell me to rush and report this issue when 1. I don't have any concrete proof of what's happening. 2. The minute I report this, my ex and his family will know it's me, which would automatically put me and my daughter at risk of retaliation 3. Talking to his daughter about this is the same as confronting her GD as she tells him almost everything! If indeed there's abuse, the psychology of the abused and abuser relationship isn't so straightforward (Stockholm Syndrome). I need to be more tactful about how I go about reporting this issue and I don't think when you were writing from your high moral ground you thought about all these things. Very easy for you to breath your righteous fire and brimstone when none of this is happening to you. And please, don't tell me it can't be you. That's what you would say when in actual fact we don't know what you can, or cannot take. You're just a stranger that can say virtually anything to make herself feel good in the moment.

shes not being sanctimonious. You have a moral obligation to report your concerns about his daughter. Ignoring sexual abuse is disgusting , you need to split with him now. And report the grandad

Atsocta · 15/08/2024 00:47

BeardieWeirdie · 09/07/2024 07:30

Get rid of this loser man and his creepy family. Learn from this experience and don’t let the next man into your daughter’s life so soon.

Totally agree 👍

SpryCat · 06/01/2025 16:21

Why is your Dp questioning why you don’t want to spend time with the Adam’s family when he is so busy with his dad to pay you any attention? Why would you want to sleep over his parents? His father acts funny with his daughter, no one would dare say anything to him and he has porn mags on his front room shelves! Sounds like a predator in plain sight. Your daughter doesn’t feel comfortable around them also plus you have to obey their rigid rules, they don’t even let you sleep with your Dp.
I would tell him your concerns about his dad and then run from him and his family and find a normal man.

Whatwouldnanado · 08/01/2025 21:07

You know this is situation is completely barking mad and is not going to improve. In any way. You and your daughter deserve more. Do not afraid of being alone. Have confidence to take the excellent advice here, and run like hell.

Nextweektoo · 08/01/2025 21:38

Honestly just end this relationship. You are obviously very insightful, listen to your gut. It almost feels like they want to groom you. Run!

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