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Partners parents are overinvolved

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Creativeaura84 · 09/07/2024 07:09

This is a long narration, and I don’t know where exactly to start, so I apologise if this is all over the place and very long.
I (39, f) have been in a relationship with a guy (38) for close to 11 months. We met last year in September, and both have one child each - girls aged 11 (mine) and 15 (his). Our daughters got along quite well from the start, though there have been a few tricky situations where his daughter talked about some rather age-inappropriate things with my child. We discussed boundaries with her and the types of conversations that aren’t ideal to discuss with an eleven-year-old.

He has full custody of his child as she decided she did not want to have much to do with her mum due to her mum’s mental health issues. He met his daughter’s mum when he was quite young, and it was his first relationship. She got pregnant, and the relationship kind of took a turn for the worse after that. My bf says his ex may have BPD and is also worried his daughter might be showing some signs of having it, too.

However, my issue has more to do with his parents. His parents live about two and a half hours away. I met them about two months after we started dating, which I felt was a bit soon, but he said he is very close to them, and his daughter had told them about me on a visit they had with them. His daughter knew about me a bit early because a message from me once came up on his phone while he was driving, and she was in the car. As a curious girl, she kept digging until he told her we were dating. The first time I met his family was very awkward as they all came down to see him (his parents, his sister and brother-in-law and two kids).
His mum was very aloof and rather cold towards me at first, but his dad seemed to be more chatty, and I got the sense that he was the one they all looked up to as he tends to dominate conversations, but his mum doesn’t talk much but can be very traditional-minded and opinionated about some things. They eventually warmed up to me as I can be quite calm and friendly, and I guess they didn’t see me as a threat. Just to add, my parents live in a different country, and I haven’t seen them for a few years, but I keep in regular contact with them over the phone, and they have met my bf, but I don’t divulge too much about my relationship with them. To be clear, I'm very respectful towards his folks and try to find common grounds of interests so we have something to talk about, though after a while my introverted self just needs a mental break. I also help his mum out with whatever chores she is doing when she is around.

The feeling I got from the outset was that he was very close to his parents, and he did tell me they have always been very supportive of him, even when he was going through custody battles with his ex. My bf also has an ex-wife (not the mother of his child) who he divorced a few years ago. He told me that the main reason they broke up was because of too much family involvement on his ex’s side, as her family wanted him to prioritise her instead of always putting his daughter first. He said her family also came over quite often and spent an indefinite number of days at their place. The thing is, his parents also come over for the entire weekend at least once a month or sometimes once every two months if he goes over to see them before then. I am now wondering if his ex wife had her parents come around often and without much announcement as a way of getting even with his own parents.

In the beginning of our relationship, I did ask how often his parents would come for the weekend, and he said it was not too often, but as time went on, I realised there was a level of enmeshment happening as he talked to his dad every day for hours sometimes and tells him almost everything happening in his life, including my life. When I moved apartments and was having issues getting my rental bond back in time, he was sending updates to his dad and also sending photos of my new place to him. I felt there was nothing he didn’t tell them about, which weirded me out. And I have observed that he is not able to make major life decisions without consulting with them. It concerned me a bit as well because his dad has some strong and strange views and conspiracy theories about things like not wanting my bf to put any photos of him and his mum on social media as they aren’t on social media at all. Some of these views come off as a bit paranoid.

Last Christmas, I agreed to go over with him to have lunch with his family, only to end up spending the whole day there as his parents had expected that he would spend that time with them. They also spent the New Year’s holiday with us, which I didn’t mind so much as I know holidays are usually a time to spend with family. However, I have found it increasingly difficult to spend huge amounts of time with them as they come across as a bit controlling and want things done their way. For instance , they make comments about how late we sleep in (9 or 10 am) as they are usually up quite early when they are at his place for the weekendI don’t usually have. Also, I tend not to have lunch as early as they do and usually have an early dinner and skip lunch most days. However, his parents were not happy about this and made some remarks about it being important that I join them for lunch. Also, I got my bf a sewing machine for his Christmas gift as he said he would like one to use for mending stuff. His parents made it a point to get me to learn how to use it, even though the machine was meant for their son, not me. To keep the peace, I gave in to his mum showing me how to use it and also found I did not feel at ease cooking while they were around as she would come to the kitchen and make comments about how I cooked differently from how she did.

During the Easter holidays, they wanted us to come over to spend time with them. I did not have any issues with that, but I felt the sleeping arrangements were a bit odd. They live in a three-bedroom house, the parents have a room to themselves, my bf’s daughter has her own room and there is a spare room, which used to be my bf’s room when he was living there. His room was the room they prepared for my daughter and me to sleep in.

The entire house is like a time capsule as my boyfriend said his parents are very set in their ways and refuse to change anything, which means his room still had a single bed in it (the bed he used while he was living with them), so this meant that my daughter slept on the single bed and I had to sleep on an air mattress, while my bf slept in the living room. It was rather uncomfortable for me to sleep on the air mattress as it was a bit low on the ground, and I got very cold at night.

I wondered why they wouldn’t change the bed to at least a double or queen bed if they wanted their grown son and his partner to come over on occasions.

There were other things that made me feel uneasy about staying with them like the strange rules of not using or charging phones in the rooms. All phones had to be charged in the living room. My bf also said that he and his brother were never given the key to the house even while they lived there and only his parents have a key. Also, at the entrance of the house, there is an open study area and on the walls are seductive wall posters of two girls (I don’t want to mention the celebrities as that might give too much away). They also have a bookshelf in the living area, and I was going through the books/magazines they had, only to find some were porn magazines, which I found really weird and inappropriate to be put there. At first, I thought it was perhaps posters and magazines from my bf or his brother while they were still living there, but my bf said they weren’t and they were put there by his dad!
This brings me to the next point of discomfort with his parents. There seems to be something a bit off with how his dad and his daughter ‘play’ with each other. There seems to be a lot of body contact when they are having fake fights. I really do hope that I'm overreacting, but there have been a few occasions where things feel off. Also, when he is around, he goes into her room to hang with her and the door is closed for what seems like a long period of time. He also is there with her late at night when she should be asleep, and I wondered if this was why the sleeping arrangement at their place was set up that way as I would’ve thought my daughter and his daughter would have a room to themselves while I and my bf had his room. Don’t get me wrong, I have encountered close granddad and granddaughter relationships before, and my dad is quite close to my brother and sister’s kid. I think it can be a very wonderful and adorable relationship, but this one just seems.. off. The daughter also spends half of the school holidays with them and they are very strict about her spending that time with them.

After that first time spent at his parents' place, I decided I didn’t really want to go there with my daughter any longer and would also limit the amount of time we spent with his parents as I just did not feel I could be myself with them. So, on the weekends, when they come over to stay – they come on Friday night and leave on Sunday night. I usually try to make that a weekend when my daughter and I can just hang out together, catch up with other friends, or do some other chores. However, my bf has noticed this and asked why I have suddenly decided not to spend weekends with him when they are over or go over with him to their place. He says that I'm one of the few partners that his parents actually like and he doesn't understand why I am suddenly not available when they're around.

It’s hard to be honest about how I feel without offending my boyfriend, but I told him that I am not trying to dictate how he spends time with them and even encouraged him to see them as often as he wants, but I wouldn’t be able to spend that same amount of time with them. Also, when they are around, my bf spends most of the day doing things with his dad like DIY stuff around the house or going out to the hardware store for hours, so I end up not spending any quality time with him while they are around. My daughter also isn’t keen on being around them as his mum can be very strict and tends to criticise everything the girls do, while his dad is also not really someone she feels comfortable around. She says she leaves my bf’s daughter’s bedroom when he comes in and starts rough-playing with his granddaughter, as it makes her uncomfortable.

To make a compromise, I suggested that I come over for lunch or dinner while they are around, but I feel pressured to spend more time with them and my boyfriend is getting very upset about the fact that I don’t want to spend the whole weekend with them. My bf is not ok with my wanting to keep a distance and says what happens when we eventually decide to move in together. It seems like he is unable to stand up to his parents at all. Am I being unreasonable for pushing back on this?

OP posts:
veritusverity · 09/07/2024 08:04

Maybe his previous relationships broke down due to his family dynamic. Remember you're only getting his version of the 'truth'. The whole thing is a boring saga, and too much drama, just walk away. It's clear you have misgivings about his family, which is fair enough, but it's not going to change, so just end the relationship, it'll be far easier in the long run.

DogsandFlowers · 09/07/2024 08:04

Gymmum82 · 09/07/2024 07:35

Only read half of the OP. Far far too long. You need to break up. You’ve only been together a few months and his family are crazy. Get out now while you can

That's uncalled for!
She had a lot to say, don't read it then but why make her feel worse by pointing out her post was 'Far far too long' ?

Azerothi · 09/07/2024 08:04

I might be old fashioned myself and not up to speed with the whole boyfriend girlfriend dynamic but you are seriously failing your daughter here.

This is parenting at its very worst from you.

Grow up, listen to your gut and if you must spend time with your boyfriend's parents (after less than a year of dating) get a babysitter for your daughter.

Iaskedyouthrice · 09/07/2024 08:07

You are not going to change this family dynamic so if you choose to stay with this man, your only choice is to accept this. Or you are going to be very unhappy and so will your child.
Also, I wouldn't be telling your partner about any thoughts you have regarding his father unless you end it. It will not go down well.
Why are you with this man? It is clearly not for you or your daughter yet here you are. Is it loneliness? Any man better than no man?
Again, if you choose to stay you need to accept that this is how it is. Why would you want your relationship to be a battleground?

Azerothi · 09/07/2024 08:07

DogsandFlowers · 09/07/2024 08:04

That's uncalled for!
She had a lot to say, don't read it then but why make her feel worse by pointing out her post was 'Far far too long' ?

You're right. The shortened version should be

"I'm forcing my young daughter to spend time with a creepy random man I don't know. What should I do?"

Dinosweetpea · 09/07/2024 08:08

I would be telling him exactly what you told us. Then leave. At least you would feel you tried, but you need to get away from this family. I'd love to hear is ex wife's version too!

Gymmum82 · 09/07/2024 08:12

DogsandFlowers · 09/07/2024 08:04

That's uncalled for!
She had a lot to say, don't read it then but why make her feel worse by pointing out her post was 'Far far too long' ?

Because it was ridiculously long. At least do a TL:DR if you’re going to post something that long also I’m not the only person who commented the same

MalbecandToast · 09/07/2024 08:12

Absolutely cut your losses and run. There are so many red flags around his father its insane. I would absolutely report these concerns to the authorities.

His dad aside, the enmeshment is insane and if its like this at 11 months in, imagine how you will feel in a few years when you have zero couple time because his parents must come first.

I get you might love this guy, but sometimes its simply not enough. Protect your DD and leave him.

Lalaland5 · 09/07/2024 08:26

Run! His family seem so dysfunctional. Please don’t expose your daughter to him any further. The only way that your relationship will survive is if you (and your DD) adapt to their absolutely crazy way of living. Just tell him that things are not working out and you have decided to end the relationship, then cut ties.

On a side note, I wouldn’t be surprised if this whole situation where his DD doesn’t see her mum because of her ‘MH issues’ is actually more that when they split up your DP parents decided to fight the mum for custody so that they could (continue) having her for her half of the holidays. I’d also not be surprised if the reason him and his other ex divorced was due to his parents (not hers).

rainbowstardrops · 09/07/2024 08:30

What inappropriate things did his daughter say in front of your 11 year old?
The photos and porn magazines on show for all to see are quite weird but I've got no idea if he's just got a nice, jovial relationship with his granddaughter, or whether he's an absolute perv!
At the end of the day, you've been together less than a year and you're not happy with the enmeshment he has with his family, or indeed their attitudes and views either. You need to consider chucking this one back.

Creativeaura84 · 09/07/2024 08:41

Lalaland5 · 09/07/2024 08:26

Run! His family seem so dysfunctional. Please don’t expose your daughter to him any further. The only way that your relationship will survive is if you (and your DD) adapt to their absolutely crazy way of living. Just tell him that things are not working out and you have decided to end the relationship, then cut ties.

On a side note, I wouldn’t be surprised if this whole situation where his DD doesn’t see her mum because of her ‘MH issues’ is actually more that when they split up your DP parents decided to fight the mum for custody so that they could (continue) having her for her half of the holidays. I’d also not be surprised if the reason him and his other ex divorced was due to his parents (not hers).

Yes, I am definitely ending things. It's clear that his parents have a very stronghold on him. You're right, DP's parents were the ones who pushed for him to get full custody even when it cost him so much and other people close to him were advising him not to do it.
His DD recently got a part-time job which allows her to work weekends and school holidays. I asked if that meant she would not need to go over to his parents for a week during school holidays and he said no, that she would just have to go to his folks place and will let the employers know she won't be around.

OP posts:
LogicVoid · 09/07/2024 08:47

Run.

Maray1967 · 09/07/2024 08:47

There’s no way I would stay in this relationship and I would tell him why.

Some things are fair enough - it is up to house owners who sleeps together in their home. Old fashioned, maybe, but my DF and DPIL were the same, 30 years ago. Not wanting photos on social media is also fine.
However, enmeshment and porn mags - and quite possibly also the behaviour between his dad and daughter- are serious problems.

I would tell him straight that his habit of telling his dad everything is not acceptable to me and my daughter does not stay in a house with porn mags in the living room bookcase.

VJBR · 09/07/2024 08:48

Very worrying about his daughter. You said she talked about inappropriate things with your daughter. Makes me wonder if she is being abused. I would definitely flag this up to your bf when you split.

Mrsdyna · 09/07/2024 08:50

From experience this will not get better. His parents will see you as a target of absolute focus when you start pulling back and the result will be he either cuts his parents off (unlikely) or you breakup.

For your sake and your daughter's, end it now.

You can not prepare for the character assassination that is brewing against you.

MotherofWagonWheels · 09/07/2024 08:51

His poor daughter.

Gioia1 · 09/07/2024 08:56

Op this is a man who never individualized from his parents. Run. In fact fly away as swiftly as possible.

Peaceandquietandacuppa · 09/07/2024 08:57

If you’re definitely going to end it, I would first try and ask his DD if she is ok. If she tells you anything, please report it. Then run away as fast as your legs carry you 😬

Kelly51 · 09/07/2024 09:01

She says she leaves my bf’s daughter’s bedroom when he comes in and starts rough-playing with his granddaughter, as it makes her uncomfortable.
In what world is this ok? no 15 yr old I've ever known would accept this?
Listen to your daughter she seems to be sensible.

WatchingTheTime · 09/07/2024 09:03

You met less than a year ago and he expects you (and your daughter) to be happily enmeshed with his creepy family as much as he is. You're seeing his family more than most married couples see their inlaws!

This whole setup is frankly skin crawling and dark. Get away from him, protect your daughter and consider reporting your concerns re his daughter and his father.

Agapornis · 09/07/2024 09:06

Before you break it off, any chance you could have a chat with his daughter and explain what is and isn't normal behaviour for a grandfather? And ask what happens when he closes that door. I'd make sure she has your phone number and make clear she can contact you to talk about her worries.

Sugargliderwombat · 09/07/2024 09:08

I think that you should chuck this one back, but before you do you should bring up the feeling uncomfortable around his dad and it being inappropriate he spends bedtime in there with his daughter. Could you talk to the daughter too?

TheSixQuarks · 09/07/2024 09:12

Agapornis · 09/07/2024 09:06

Before you break it off, any chance you could have a chat with his daughter and explain what is and isn't normal behaviour for a grandfather? And ask what happens when he closes that door. I'd make sure she has your phone number and make clear she can contact you to talk about her worries.

That's what I was going to say too.

Daleksatemyshed · 09/07/2024 09:16

Glad you're leaving him Op, he can't stand up to his DPs, he's so enmeshed with them you'd never have any peace.

MimiGC · 09/07/2024 09:25

Please try to talk to your BF's daughter. Let her know that you and your daughter are uncomfortable with the grandfather's behaviour and why. Offer to help her if she needs it. Even if/when you do leave your BF, try to leave your contact details with the girl. It could all be "innocent" fun, but certainly doesn't sound like it.

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