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Partners parents are overinvolved

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Creativeaura84 · 09/07/2024 07:09

This is a long narration, and I don’t know where exactly to start, so I apologise if this is all over the place and very long.
I (39, f) have been in a relationship with a guy (38) for close to 11 months. We met last year in September, and both have one child each - girls aged 11 (mine) and 15 (his). Our daughters got along quite well from the start, though there have been a few tricky situations where his daughter talked about some rather age-inappropriate things with my child. We discussed boundaries with her and the types of conversations that aren’t ideal to discuss with an eleven-year-old.

He has full custody of his child as she decided she did not want to have much to do with her mum due to her mum’s mental health issues. He met his daughter’s mum when he was quite young, and it was his first relationship. She got pregnant, and the relationship kind of took a turn for the worse after that. My bf says his ex may have BPD and is also worried his daughter might be showing some signs of having it, too.

However, my issue has more to do with his parents. His parents live about two and a half hours away. I met them about two months after we started dating, which I felt was a bit soon, but he said he is very close to them, and his daughter had told them about me on a visit they had with them. His daughter knew about me a bit early because a message from me once came up on his phone while he was driving, and she was in the car. As a curious girl, she kept digging until he told her we were dating. The first time I met his family was very awkward as they all came down to see him (his parents, his sister and brother-in-law and two kids).
His mum was very aloof and rather cold towards me at first, but his dad seemed to be more chatty, and I got the sense that he was the one they all looked up to as he tends to dominate conversations, but his mum doesn’t talk much but can be very traditional-minded and opinionated about some things. They eventually warmed up to me as I can be quite calm and friendly, and I guess they didn’t see me as a threat. Just to add, my parents live in a different country, and I haven’t seen them for a few years, but I keep in regular contact with them over the phone, and they have met my bf, but I don’t divulge too much about my relationship with them. To be clear, I'm very respectful towards his folks and try to find common grounds of interests so we have something to talk about, though after a while my introverted self just needs a mental break. I also help his mum out with whatever chores she is doing when she is around.

The feeling I got from the outset was that he was very close to his parents, and he did tell me they have always been very supportive of him, even when he was going through custody battles with his ex. My bf also has an ex-wife (not the mother of his child) who he divorced a few years ago. He told me that the main reason they broke up was because of too much family involvement on his ex’s side, as her family wanted him to prioritise her instead of always putting his daughter first. He said her family also came over quite often and spent an indefinite number of days at their place. The thing is, his parents also come over for the entire weekend at least once a month or sometimes once every two months if he goes over to see them before then. I am now wondering if his ex wife had her parents come around often and without much announcement as a way of getting even with his own parents.

In the beginning of our relationship, I did ask how often his parents would come for the weekend, and he said it was not too often, but as time went on, I realised there was a level of enmeshment happening as he talked to his dad every day for hours sometimes and tells him almost everything happening in his life, including my life. When I moved apartments and was having issues getting my rental bond back in time, he was sending updates to his dad and also sending photos of my new place to him. I felt there was nothing he didn’t tell them about, which weirded me out. And I have observed that he is not able to make major life decisions without consulting with them. It concerned me a bit as well because his dad has some strong and strange views and conspiracy theories about things like not wanting my bf to put any photos of him and his mum on social media as they aren’t on social media at all. Some of these views come off as a bit paranoid.

Last Christmas, I agreed to go over with him to have lunch with his family, only to end up spending the whole day there as his parents had expected that he would spend that time with them. They also spent the New Year’s holiday with us, which I didn’t mind so much as I know holidays are usually a time to spend with family. However, I have found it increasingly difficult to spend huge amounts of time with them as they come across as a bit controlling and want things done their way. For instance , they make comments about how late we sleep in (9 or 10 am) as they are usually up quite early when they are at his place for the weekendI don’t usually have. Also, I tend not to have lunch as early as they do and usually have an early dinner and skip lunch most days. However, his parents were not happy about this and made some remarks about it being important that I join them for lunch. Also, I got my bf a sewing machine for his Christmas gift as he said he would like one to use for mending stuff. His parents made it a point to get me to learn how to use it, even though the machine was meant for their son, not me. To keep the peace, I gave in to his mum showing me how to use it and also found I did not feel at ease cooking while they were around as she would come to the kitchen and make comments about how I cooked differently from how she did.

During the Easter holidays, they wanted us to come over to spend time with them. I did not have any issues with that, but I felt the sleeping arrangements were a bit odd. They live in a three-bedroom house, the parents have a room to themselves, my bf’s daughter has her own room and there is a spare room, which used to be my bf’s room when he was living there. His room was the room they prepared for my daughter and me to sleep in.

The entire house is like a time capsule as my boyfriend said his parents are very set in their ways and refuse to change anything, which means his room still had a single bed in it (the bed he used while he was living with them), so this meant that my daughter slept on the single bed and I had to sleep on an air mattress, while my bf slept in the living room. It was rather uncomfortable for me to sleep on the air mattress as it was a bit low on the ground, and I got very cold at night.

I wondered why they wouldn’t change the bed to at least a double or queen bed if they wanted their grown son and his partner to come over on occasions.

There were other things that made me feel uneasy about staying with them like the strange rules of not using or charging phones in the rooms. All phones had to be charged in the living room. My bf also said that he and his brother were never given the key to the house even while they lived there and only his parents have a key. Also, at the entrance of the house, there is an open study area and on the walls are seductive wall posters of two girls (I don’t want to mention the celebrities as that might give too much away). They also have a bookshelf in the living area, and I was going through the books/magazines they had, only to find some were porn magazines, which I found really weird and inappropriate to be put there. At first, I thought it was perhaps posters and magazines from my bf or his brother while they were still living there, but my bf said they weren’t and they were put there by his dad!
This brings me to the next point of discomfort with his parents. There seems to be something a bit off with how his dad and his daughter ‘play’ with each other. There seems to be a lot of body contact when they are having fake fights. I really do hope that I'm overreacting, but there have been a few occasions where things feel off. Also, when he is around, he goes into her room to hang with her and the door is closed for what seems like a long period of time. He also is there with her late at night when she should be asleep, and I wondered if this was why the sleeping arrangement at their place was set up that way as I would’ve thought my daughter and his daughter would have a room to themselves while I and my bf had his room. Don’t get me wrong, I have encountered close granddad and granddaughter relationships before, and my dad is quite close to my brother and sister’s kid. I think it can be a very wonderful and adorable relationship, but this one just seems.. off. The daughter also spends half of the school holidays with them and they are very strict about her spending that time with them.

After that first time spent at his parents' place, I decided I didn’t really want to go there with my daughter any longer and would also limit the amount of time we spent with his parents as I just did not feel I could be myself with them. So, on the weekends, when they come over to stay – they come on Friday night and leave on Sunday night. I usually try to make that a weekend when my daughter and I can just hang out together, catch up with other friends, or do some other chores. However, my bf has noticed this and asked why I have suddenly decided not to spend weekends with him when they are over or go over with him to their place. He says that I'm one of the few partners that his parents actually like and he doesn't understand why I am suddenly not available when they're around.

It’s hard to be honest about how I feel without offending my boyfriend, but I told him that I am not trying to dictate how he spends time with them and even encouraged him to see them as often as he wants, but I wouldn’t be able to spend that same amount of time with them. Also, when they are around, my bf spends most of the day doing things with his dad like DIY stuff around the house or going out to the hardware store for hours, so I end up not spending any quality time with him while they are around. My daughter also isn’t keen on being around them as his mum can be very strict and tends to criticise everything the girls do, while his dad is also not really someone she feels comfortable around. She says she leaves my bf’s daughter’s bedroom when he comes in and starts rough-playing with his granddaughter, as it makes her uncomfortable.

To make a compromise, I suggested that I come over for lunch or dinner while they are around, but I feel pressured to spend more time with them and my boyfriend is getting very upset about the fact that I don’t want to spend the whole weekend with them. My bf is not ok with my wanting to keep a distance and says what happens when we eventually decide to move in together. It seems like he is unable to stand up to his parents at all. Am I being unreasonable for pushing back on this?

OP posts:
Tv23456 · 12/07/2024 10:20

YourWildAmberSloth · 12/07/2024 09:16

Honestly OP it all sounds too fast too soon. Within a couple of months you had met his daughter. Your expectation that the 2 daughters would share a room - even though they are basically strangers. Spending Christmas etc with his family so early on in the relationship. Concerns about the relationship between FIL and his grandaughter need to be raised or reported to SS. If you have genuine concerns you should not be taking your daughter there or allowing her to be around him. None of this sounds healthy - in your shoes I would be calling police/social services about the possible abuse and walking away from the relationship for good.

This.
OP, YOU need to take a repeated look at this post.
Your daughter deserves better.
I think he sounds like a spineless shit father who is turning a blind eye to a really fxxked up dynamic.
How you have continued being involved once you sensed something was off is beyond me.

DecoratingDiva · 12/07/2024 10:23

To be honest I didn’t make it to the end but you sound way too involved with him when you have been dating for less than 11 months. You & your daughter must have spent Christmas with his whole family when you had only been dating for 4-5 months & many people wouldn’t even have introduced their children to their bf by this point!

I am amazed you have stayed with him this long as the whole situation sounds very unhealthy and it can’t be great for your daughter.

Him & his family situation is by no means normal and you don’t give any positive points to balance all the oddness and control. What are you getting out of this relationship?

The situation will not improve and will only get worse for you should you move in with him so I’d suggest you cut your losses now and walk away.

Summerpigeon · 12/07/2024 10:24

So
Your not actually concerned about the GP being over involved
Your concern is your step daughters relationship with her grandfather
You feel it is sexual.
In which case you need to act
I suggest you phone child line
I expect they will be able to advise you further
No one on here can say if he is sexally abusing her or not .
Only you know the situation and you need to follow your instincts and protect that little girl ,as no one else seems to be doing in that family

Onelifeonly · 12/07/2024 10:37

Creativeaura84 · 09/07/2024 07:42

Thank you. Yes, his relationship with his folks, especially with his father is very weird to me. I did mention the whole poster and porn mag thing to my ex, but he said his parents are pretty much 'our house, our rules' kind of folk. They are very rigid and will simply not change anything.

I'm very worried about his daughter, though. As a mum I have a strong gut feeling that tells me something is very off, but I don't know what to do...

Social services might disagree..... As might the law.

Onelifeonly · 12/07/2024 10:39

I meant disagree with the 'our house, our rules' approach.

Inform social services of youe have suspicions. I deal with safeguarding at work and we would certainly report this.

Onelifeonly · 12/07/2024 10:41

Also break this off now. I feel suffocated just reading it and it sounds like your partner is too heavily controlled and under the influence of his parents to be able to see your perspective - this is what he has known for his whole life.

Vonesk · 12/07/2024 11:45

You deffo need to push back on this. Hes still tied to their apron strings. A lot of controlling behaviour here. It was very interesting reading your post. It reminded me of that film ' psycho' where the son ran a motel but obviously had a mother fetish.........PLEASE DONT RUSH this relationship.. my advice: keep pushing back, exert your autonomy and see what effect it has ( probably negative as they all want to CONTROL / SUFFICATE you into submission)..please dont get too enmeshed/ engaged/ pregnant too soon. Give it TIME!!!!!!!!!! You coukd stay even if its for research purposes to study how vodependent relationships pan out.. In think your partner has a lot of growing up to do to cut apron strings. Trouble is: Even when he cuts the apron strings he will transfer his codependency to you and its up to you if you want that.

Welshmonster · 12/07/2024 11:48

you can speak to his DD school in confidence about what you have observed and it might be the part of the puzzle they are missing.

when the door is closed at BF house can you just walk in and say sorry I was looking for something.

I would have to do something for this girl as it could turn out to be nothing but the porn mags etc about are not appropriate. Please raise it with appropriate authorities even though it could spoil your relationship etc.

Codlingmoths · 12/07/2024 11:54

If you are again going to be at dps place with his parents there, I would take something of his dds and if she’s there with the door shut walk up quickly and open it to say casually here’s the sweater you were looking for. Then chat in the open doorway and leave it open behind you. Repeatedly. Who cares if his parents don’t like you, they seem pretty bloody horrible anyway.

Cm19841 · 12/07/2024 12:52

You said in your post that the mother of your boyfriend's daughter has BPD and because of her mental health her child does not want to see her own mother. How do you know she has BPD?

Combined with the overbearing family who have a tight grip on the son and his daughter, I think there is a massive chance they have alienated the girl from her mother. You can tell also that a previous relationship hit the skids because of them with his ex-wife. You also said they were heavily involved in the custody battle and demand shared parenting time with their granddaughter. Note, I say demand and I see this by there being drama if they do not get what they want - this is entitlement.

Later in your post I read that his mother has started trying to parent your daughter, and started trying to tell you what you can do, in both large and small ways.

Do not move in with this man. I can already tell he is starting to use emotional abuse and control to try to get you to enmeshed with his family - your autonomy doesn't seem to be a priority in all this.

There are families like this and they are dangerous to women and to their children - I have very sad experience of this and your post carries all the signs to worry about. Please leave this man and protect yourself and your daughter.

VickyEadieofThigh · 12/07/2024 16:38

You went MUCH too fast, MUCH too soon with this man and his disturbing family.

Get out now.

OriginalUsername2 · 12/07/2024 16:47

I feel sick reading this. I would break up with the boyfriend, block the lot of them and report what I had seen and heard.

Whatwouldnanado · 12/07/2024 17:03

Run! You and your daughter deserve better than this.

ForZingyHare · 12/07/2024 17:35

Until I got close to the end (way too long!) I kinda of thought you were both pretty weird and tbh 11 months is nothing for a relationship really. But, and it's a big but - absolutely no way in hell is it OK for grandparents to have porn and similar on view for visitors or family to find or see. Even forgetting all the other stuff, porn and granddaughters staying over, my house my rules etc - HELL NO Run, don't walk, it perceived as relatively normal by the family including your BF, it isn't. Leave.

Poppyfun1 · 12/07/2024 19:28

RUN!

6hourdrive · 12/07/2024 19:56

I would never have allowed myself or my DC to be enmeshed into this type of arrangement.

Keep your distance.

Sounds like your DP has escaped from Royston Vasey!

Mostlycarbon · 12/07/2024 20:28

his dad is also not really someone she feels comfortable around. She says she leaves my bf’s daughter’s bedroom when he comes in and starts rough-playing with his granddaughter, as it makes her uncomfortable.

This is the most important part of your post. Your daughter doesn't feel comfortable around this man. Listen to her and respect her instincts.

Scarletttulips · 12/07/2024 20:50

This gives me the shivers .

Listen to what you are hearing and get out.

Text the DD and say if she needs to speak to her you’re here to listen.

Then ring childline and report your suspicions.

OutCuteBaby567 · 12/07/2024 21:25

RUN

Your DD is your main priority. She can never be safe around these people. Even if FIL is not a perv, the whole thing is too dysfunctional and will impact her.

I honestly think you would be a terrible mother to continue this relationship now that you have seen all this. I get that it happened over time, that he's a nice person and he reeled you in. But you now have all the knowledge you need to know you HAVE to get out of this.

Daisyblue77 · 13/07/2024 00:47

You absolutely need to report your concerns about the gf, my dad spent time in my sisters room. Guess what ? He was abusing her, think the worst kind of abuse. He also kept porn mags in the house .you have a moral responsibility as a human to report this . You could be saving that girls life. Many abused children later turn to addictions and even commit suicide

Cantbelieveit888 · 13/07/2024 02:47

Omg, reading your OP is like watching a psychological horror movie!

Woman meets man’s disturbed family. Porn mags/images around the house. His 15 year old daughter having an inappropriate relationship with her GF……..

This is so incredibly creepy…. I’ve actually got goosebumps reading this!

Please end this relationship for the sake of your own daughter. Also I’m worried about his daughter…. Not sure what the advice is but it’s not healthy and should be reported.

GotMarriedInCornwall · 13/07/2024 09:46

Speak to the safeguarding lead at your step daughter’s school. They may already have concerns and your information could provide a missing part of the puzzle. And even if not, they will know exactly what to do with the information.

Overbythewaterfountain · 13/07/2024 10:41

I would make a report to social services regarding the daughter. She displays sexually inappropriate behaviour, she is exposed to porn in her grandparents' house (just writing that is completely bizarre, but if you've found the magazines then no doubt she has too). No one in her family is protecting her but you can.

SoreAndTired1 · 13/07/2024 12:18

I would definitely run, but have you even tried to have a talk with partner about his father's behaviour with his daughter? And the door closed? You really need to let him know that something very wrong is happening. And that as a father, he has a duty of care to perhaps stop contact between his daughter and his parents.

LeFromage · 13/07/2024 12:33

what inappropriate things did his daughter say to yours? Was she trying to disclose sexual abuse? I’d keep your daughter far away from BFs father and end the relationship on the basis it’s not going to change with his dominating dad. Sorry but your relationship with your daughter and her safety is so much more important. There will be less complicated relationships out there for you, pass on this one before it gets to 12 months. I’m worried for his daughter.