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To be so happy at so many women in the cabinet

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Standupcitizen · 06/07/2024 19:16

Anyone else absolutely thrilled to see women represented equally in the cabinet for the first time ever?

22 appointments. 11 women, 11 men. It seems completely deliberate. Previously the highest % of females in the cabinet was something like 38%. First female chancellor in history as well.

I feel elated that for the first time in my life, we have equality of the sexes in government.

Whatever you think of starmer, the labour party or of the women in question, this is absolutely huge to me, i feel ridiculously emotional about it. I think as a woman who has been dismissed, talked over, belittled, discriminated against and overlooked for promotion in favour of men in the workplace - if the government can do it, then other companies have no excuse.

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FauxOutrage · 06/07/2024 23:27

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CranfordScones · 06/07/2024 23:29

The one notable omission was Emily Thornberry who shadowed Attorney General, but the appointment has gone to Richard Hermer who isn't an MP but will sit in the Lords.

I just want a cabinet who can make things work, but I think Emily Thornberry will be well suited to a career on the back benches.

Champagnesocialismo · 06/07/2024 23:31

Helloworld56 · 06/07/2024 23:24

Starmer has chosen his cabinet on the basis of who he thinks is best for the job. I very much doubt that he is wanting to tick any boxes.

If he had done that, it would have been a stupid way of choosing, and Starmer is far from stupid.

Someone will always find their own reasons for the appointment of certain ministers.

Let's see how they perform before we start judging them.

Yes my god he has had the temerity to make some of the appointments based on long term expertise rather than hand the positions out like special power trinkets. An encouraging start and suggests that the endless power management struggle of the reshuffle won’t be used for a while.

DinosaurWhizz · 06/07/2024 23:32

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You sound very snobby there. They may be a little less polished than the likes of Jacob Rees Mogg but I'm certain they have achieved a lot more to get where they are.
And you can't get much less couth than BJ. Or is it ok for a posh white male to act like a lout but not ok for a female with a local accent??

DinosaurWhizz · 06/07/2024 23:33

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Would be better than a cabinet full of BJ and JRM though you have to admit

SharonEllis · 06/07/2024 23:36

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'Education is everything'

Diane Abbott went to Grammar school & Cambridge.

FauxOutrage · 06/07/2024 23:36

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Champagnesocialismo · 06/07/2024 23:38

Rayner is an inspired choice for her brief; I wanted her to get housing and she did. She will be radical. Planning laws need to be changed, and you need someone very tough to do this and resist a huge lobby against that reform (Conservatives trued and it was nobbled by their own). One thing about Rayner is that the lobby crowd will not know what to do.

FauxOutrage · 06/07/2024 23:42

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Churchview · 06/07/2024 23:43

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You seem quite obsessed by private/state education in a way that most people aren't when they are choosing the right person for a job.

Perhaps Keir just doesn't have a chip on his shoulder about it.

Andthereitis · 06/07/2024 23:44

HRTQueen · 06/07/2024 20:48

Yes it’s brilliant

and for Rachel Reeves to be the first Chancellor of the Exchequer

apparently the Chancellor’s office only has male urinals 🙄

So where did the previous ones poop?

BIossomtoes · 06/07/2024 23:45

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She’s a Cambridge graduate.

Champagnesocialismo · 06/07/2024 23:45

I have confidence because actually it is a smart choice for that particular portfolio; what do you do? Put in someone who is extremely resistant to private lobbying. Good move. Besides I understand that the work is already done on planning; Rayner doesn’t have to start from scratch with a policy, she’s got one.

Intelligence is not just found at Oxford.

Champagnesocialismo · 06/07/2024 23:47

Andthereitis · 06/07/2024 23:44

So where did the previous ones poop?

Usually in the PMs red box

Churchview · 06/07/2024 23:48

Andthereitis · 06/07/2024 23:44

So where did the previous ones poop?

They had a potty that was brought in on a tray by a Jacob Rees Mogg's nanny who whisked it away afterwards under a Conservative branded tea towel.

BIossomtoes · 06/07/2024 23:48

Rainbowsponge · 06/07/2024 23:23

I’m not at all surprised to hear you say, yet again, that Kier Starmer has got something right when on the face of it had he been a Tory you would’ve said the precise opposite.

I wouldn’t because the facts would be the same. I’m not nearly as tribal as you seem to think I am.

FauxOutrage · 06/07/2024 23:51

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Champagnesocialismo · 06/07/2024 23:38

Rayner is an inspired choice for her brief; I wanted her to get housing and she did. She will be radical. Planning laws need to be changed, and you need someone very tough to do this and resist a huge lobby against that reform (Conservatives trued and it was nobbled by their own). One thing about Rayner is that the lobby crowd will not know what to do.

Rather knows a lot about the rental market and how to get away with things.

ilovesooty · 06/07/2024 23:52

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What's wrong with Diane Abbott's education?

FauxOutrage · 06/07/2024 23:53

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Churchview · 06/07/2024 23:54

Thinking about Keir Starmer today he was a different man from the campaigning version of him. He was more cautious and nervous then and totally relaxed and assured today.

It's as though he was concerned about getting the chance to be PM but that he never had any doubt about his ability to do it once he got the job.

FauxOutrage · 06/07/2024 23:54

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JudgeJ · 06/07/2024 23:54

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Whether she needed it or not?

FauxOutrage · 06/07/2024 23:55

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