To actually feel sorry for the woman driving the car in the Wimbledon car accident

[bagpuss90]

I’m sure I’ll be flamed here . I totally sympathise with the bereaved parents- I can’t stress that enough. I can understand them wanting justice . As we know the driver of the car suffered an epileptic seizure at the wheel - she had no history of epilepsy. I don’t see what she could have done differently. She has to live with what she did although it wasn’t her fault. AIBU to feel quite sorry for her ?

Every time I think I've seen the worst of people someone makes the effort to sink even lower.

Every time you step into a vehicle it's possible that your journey will cause a death. We should lock you up now to prevent those deaths.

Most people on this thread are of the opinion that it was a tragic accident.

So that would seem to suggest that that is the natural reaction of most people presented with the facts that we have.

I know that the people who are criticising the police are closely involved and grieving, but they are presumably also capable of realising that accidents happen.

So if a number of people that must know more than we do aren’t convinced, perhaps there are facts that they know that we don’t?

Are you serious? Give up her job?

The brand of car was responsible?

It’s been a long time since I read as much crap as I have in this thread. My mum developed seizures at 50. Later diagnosed with epilepsy. This woman could have very Well have continued to have seizures and been diagnosed with epilepsy since the accident.

No one can come up with a vaguely reasonable reason she would not braked. But apparently she should have quit her job, not left the house, not smiled at all since, was probably drunk or hung over (as though she would have been tested) and loads of other shit.

and all this talk of ‘well she has money to get proper justice’ the parents of these girls aren’t exactly skint benefits. So if it’s easy to get proper justice if you pay, why didn’t they pay to get the justice they feel they deserve.

This is an awful situation all round. And people using it these children’s death to speculate and just spout nonsense it’s pretty awful.

Speaking as an A&E nurse, if she was immediately taken to hospital, there is a blood test that shows a seizure has happened. Its a very common, easy, diagnostic test and shows whether it was a "functional" or non-epileptic seizure - which can appear very much like an epileptic seizure, or an actual seizure that needs acting upon, which isn't always epileptic either. But it can be used to diagnose a seizure has occurred. That medical testing would have been given to investigators, as it would be on her records. Without knowing the ins and outs of this particular person, or their medical history, i would hazard a guess, that the testing showed an actual seizure had occurred in the time leading up to the accident. Therefore, provable, and would not lead to any kind of charges or conviction.

It’s awful to dismiss parents and other witnesses doubts about how the investigation was conducted.

I can’t think of any other reason apart from a seizure that would explain why she drove her car off the road and into a school playground. Her phone would have been checked by the police to exclude that being a distraction and she would have been breathalysed too.

Ultimately she is the only person who will ever truly know what happened though.

I regularly drive through this area and the number of giant cars is insane and are often driven dangerously. This is factual of what I see. I think when you are in such a huge car you have a feeling if security for you own safety which can lead to unsafe decisions. The number of drivers on mobile phones whatever the size of their car is shocking. A mini would not have smashed through metal gates.
Of course people are entitled to drive any car like they want but accept that these huge cars are more powerful and cause more damage when involved in accidents.
I had no idea she sold these cars but it’s seems incredibly insensitive of her to post herself selling said cars after devastation caused. (If this is factual)
what is fact is that my friend witnessed the accident and Will never forget what she saw.
the op should question why they felt need to start a thread like this, incredibly thoughtless.

The police deal with all sorts of people, including murderers and armed gangsters. And they regularly give evidence in court and are subject to cross-examination. I doubt that they would be easily intimidated by a 'fierce lawyer' even if the driver's husband is one.

It was a horrible and unfortunate accident wasn't it?

Yeah I do feel a bit bad for her.

The teachers from the school, and the families involved (whose children were harmed or killed,) are VERY unhappy with the verdict though! (That it was an unavoidable accident.)

What was the court/judge meant to do though? If the woman had an epileptic fit, it wasn't her fault. I bet she will never drive again though.

I think it would be odd to not feel sorry for her.

I agree. As if an lawyer could intimidate the police. What a ludicrous suggestion! 🙄

No I don't. I feel so much for the parents of those beautiful girls.
The police didn't seem to handle themselves right from the get go in regards to dealing with the families. Keeping them in the loop Iver what was going on and when/ why. They were left countless times to get their story into the media to feel heard and ask for answers. And only then the police seemed to provide vague updates.
If the police had handled it right and reassured the families that the investigation was being thoroughly I don't think the families would've felt a need to have put themselves of going public for answers every time. Also I think if the family were reassured that their legal team could look at the evidence themselves to see what the cps saying are correct it would help them thinking someone is hiding something somewhere.

That's BS. My father had his first epileptic seisure at 41. Thankfully he was home when it happened and not driving

Absolute tragic accident. A friend of mine has just been diagnosed with epilepsy, first seizure aged 67!! I feel desperate for the parents but they need to accept that there was no deliberate intent….nothing this poor woman could have done. Dreadful things happen everyday, there is not always someone at fault.

Really?

You think a one ton, out of control, fiat punto is less likely to kill 2 small children than a 4x4……….

I feel sorry for her too.
We all understand the parents, their loss, grief, but asking for blood for her medical condition is unfair.

Also, he’s not a lawyer, he works in finance.

Well should we just throw her in prison for that ?

You cannot blame a "giant car" for what happened, and it wasn't driven dangerously. It was a horrible, tragic accident.
Even if she does sell "giant cars" as you put it, it has nothing to do with this horrible incident.

Who is dismissing anything?

No one on here is the investigating police officers or ever witnessed the woman’s driving.

Everything I mentioned is pure speculation and nothing to do with other witnesses or the police.

Comparing pure speculation and judgements of how bad she feels because she leaves her house has nothing to do with witnesses or the police.

But weird that you claim speculating is in some way supportive of the parents. I bet it’s helping them a lot 🙄

I mean if I'd just run someone's kid over it would feel slightly churlish to withhold the evidence of your legit medical diagnosis wouldn't it?

She hasn’t withheld her diagnosis, it has been provided to the CPS.

One of my parents died due to another drivers error. My family did not prosecute, but this was a decision they came to themselves. The driver was incredibly remorseful, broken and will live with it their whole life.

However…the parents of the children who died did want more justice than this and I think they are entitled to that. The driver has a life sentence but the parents do not feel that justice has been served and have to live out a terrible life sentence too with no respite.

So what should justice be for a non crime ?

There is no ‘justice’ if no crime has been committed.