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Sunak’s concession speech wtf?

219 replies

tamade · 05/07/2024 11:58

“Today power will change hands in a peaceful and orderly manner”

Was their ever any doubt? Why say it? Was it a dig at Gordon Brown?

I just find it jarring.

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parkrun500club · 05/07/2024 15:23

HowIrresponsible · 05/07/2024 12:25

How is Palestine relevant to our Island? A non state who elected a proscribed terrorist organisation to government in 2006.

And yet people think it's relevant in our election.

Perhaps they've all forgotten we're no longer a colonial power and there is literally fuck all we can do about the middle East. We have no influence and haven't for decades.

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It's clear Iran put Hamas up to attacking Israel and Iran were probably put up to it by Russia.

And then it affects our election.

NOTthisOldchestnut · 05/07/2024 15:24

FiveFoxes · 05/07/2024 12:22

I am glad Labour have won. However, I thought Rishi's speech was mostly very good (apart from the boasty bit into he middle). We should never take it for granted having an orderly change over of power.

This ^ I dislike his ignorance, and despise his party's behaviour. I did however think both his speeches were good, the first when he held on to his seat, and the second leaving one. Starmer is a good man, and I suspect he has been nicer than he had to be during the process, which Rishi recognises.
And yes why the part in the middle!!

AssortedLabels · 05/07/2024 15:25

I’m a Labour voter with no time for the Conservatives but I thought it was a dignified speech, professional, and statesman-like.

I don’t actually dislike Sunak as a person. He seems pleasant enough. I don’t agree with his politics and I do think he struggles to connect with the struggles and lives or ordinary people. That doesn’t make him
inherently bad, and I do think he’s done his best.

Dinkading · 05/07/2024 15:31

BMW6 · 05/07/2024 15:18

WTF

In what way is the use of the comparison to an Orangutan pertinent?

Are you just being a common or garden Racist Fucker?

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Sorry, I didn't realise it was such a high bar to compare yourself to mindless violence such as that in the states?

Happyher · 05/07/2024 15:31

Maybe it was a comment about his predecessor(s)

Vikina · 05/07/2024 15:32

LostTheMarble · 05/07/2024 12:04

I thought his speech was very dignified and respectful of Starmer coming into the position. I absolutely get people finding huge fault with the previous government but he’s handed over better than any previous party leader of late. No ‘poor me’, no ‘well good luck with the bed you’ve made’. Just acknowledged the want for change and not a ‘dig’ at anyone.

Well said.

Rainbow1901 · 05/07/2024 15:35

I think his speech was very good and he was right to mention the better things coming up such as lower interest rates etc as this will make a better starting point for the new government and they should not claim the kudos for this.

SquirrelSoShiny · 05/07/2024 15:47

LostTheMarble · 05/07/2024 13:18

I really don’t want to side track this thread as the election has already been won and the voice of the people well and truly heard. But Sunak was the last man standing holding over a decade worth of ever increasing shit from his predecessors. He could have done better but personally I think he tried his best given he knew he’d very likely be the leader of an utterly humiliated party come next election. Starmer is starting from a clean sheet, not expected to ‘fix’ things whilst also being held to previous account/party lines and promises. Out of all the Tory leaders post Cameron, I think he has been the only one who did care beyond his own personal and political gains. But that is simply my opinion.

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This. I completely agree.

I think Sunak and Hunt behaved like adults trying to clean up after a chimps' tea party. Bojo and Truss have so much to answer for.

MrsDoylesLastTeabag · 05/07/2024 15:55

It was an extremely gracious and dignified speech and, yes, clearly referencing the bonkers chaos in the US - and the threat to democracy across the Globe.

VotesForWomen · 05/07/2024 15:58

Not Sunak but (I can't remember who) on the radio this morning was talking about how sad she was that the Tories "hadn't managed to undo what they were given by Labour 14 years ago." WTF. you've had FOURTEEN YEARS!!

Also not impressed by lots of other Tory defeat speeches along the lines of "we will have to work out what we did wrong and prepare to get back in charge to serve the country in 4 years time" - err, the party has 119 seats, maybe those MPs could do their work diligently for the next 4 years, that would be grand. I haven't heard Sunak's speech but I am looking forward to catching up with it. For all that I'm vociferously anti-tory, I have respect for Sunak at least. He brought calmness and stability after the Truss fiasco.

Arlanymor · 05/07/2024 16:04

SquirrelSoShiny · 05/07/2024 15:47

This. I completely agree.

I think Sunak and Hunt behaved like adults trying to clean up after a chimps' tea party. Bojo and Truss have so much to answer for.

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Erm Sunak broke the law TWICE, and that’s fine by you?

VickyEadieofThigh · 05/07/2024 16:05

JustPleachy · 05/07/2024 12:05

I assumed it was a dig at Trump.

That's what I thought.

VickyEadieofThigh · 05/07/2024 16:07

NOTthisOldchestnut · 05/07/2024 15:24

This ^ I dislike his ignorance, and despise his party's behaviour. I did however think both his speeches were good, the first when he held on to his seat, and the second leaving one. Starmer is a good man, and I suspect he has been nicer than he had to be during the process, which Rishi recognises.
And yes why the part in the middle!!

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I'm interested (because I see this a lot) - why do you refer to the Tory leader by his first name but the Labour leader by his surname?

HRTQueen · 05/07/2024 16:07

It was show that politics can be dignified there was nothing wrong with his speech

look to France look to the US

Its not only a dig to Trump its a dig to Farage and the appalling racism directed at Sunak from his party

crochetmonkey74 · 05/07/2024 16:08

Arlanymor · 05/07/2024 16:04

Erm Sunak broke the law TWICE, and that’s fine by you?

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Clearly it wasn't fine as he was voted out!
BUT we can still think he gave a dignified speech. Life is not an all or nothing game

We need to embrace nuance

Meraas · 05/07/2024 16:10

VickyEadieofThigh · 05/07/2024 16:07

I'm interested (because I see this a lot) - why do you refer to the Tory leader by his first name but the Labour leader by his surname?

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Maybe because the person she was responding to called him Rishi. Just a guess!

PerfectYear321 · 05/07/2024 16:12

I thought it was fine and I can't fucking stand the man

ThatMauveSnake · 05/07/2024 16:15

I thought his speech was excellent.

KeirSpoutsTwaddle · 05/07/2024 16:16

I don’t know a lot about sunak apart from the accusations of privilege.

If his grandparents came here with nothing, presumably his parent grew up needing to work hard, and he’s not that far from working class?

I do find class and success tricky in the UK. My dad was a builder, my grandad a handyman, grandma worked in a shop and her husband was a wrong un. I went to independent school and to Oxbridge. Where would I sit if I were foolish enough to be a politician? Privileged? Working class?

LlynTegid · 05/07/2024 16:16

Seemed dignified, unlike the behaviour of Liz Truss at her count, for example, deliberately being late it seemed.

If it was a dig at Trump then no bad thing.

Fightthepower · 05/07/2024 16:47

KeirSpoutsTwaddle · 05/07/2024 16:16

I don’t know a lot about sunak apart from the accusations of privilege.

If his grandparents came here with nothing, presumably his parent grew up needing to work hard, and he’s not that far from working class?

I do find class and success tricky in the UK. My dad was a builder, my grandad a handyman, grandma worked in a shop and her husband was a wrong un. I went to independent school and to Oxbridge. Where would I sit if I were foolish enough to be a politician? Privileged? Working class?

Well his parents were a doctor and a pharmacist so middle class occupations and affluent enough to send him to board at Winchester College where fees nowadays would be 50k per child per annum. Not suggesting they didn't work hard but lots of people are hard working.

His was a priviledged background, no two ways about it.

Gunnersforthecup · 05/07/2024 17:02

swimsong · 05/07/2024 15:08

It's the elephant in the room that many in this country would never vote for someone of Indian heritage.

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I agree, I think quiet racism played a part in Sunak's defeat (alongside the poor behaviour of Truss and Johnson in particular).

I get the impression that, despite having been a Brexiteering Tory and previously a finance vulture, Sunak has a lot of decency and a desire to do the right thing by whatever his lights are.

shams05 · 05/07/2024 17:12

Probably the only time he's been so sincere.

HRTQueen · 05/07/2024 17:20

Gunnersforthecup · 05/07/2024 17:02

I agree, I think quiet racism played a part in Sunak's defeat (alongside the poor behaviour of Truss and Johnson in particular).

I get the impression that, despite having been a Brexiteering Tory and previously a finance vulture, Sunak has a lot of decency and a desire to do the right thing by whatever his lights are.

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I agree

to many he simply didn't know his place

swimsong · 05/07/2024 18:53

KeirSpoutsTwaddle · 05/07/2024 16:16

I don’t know a lot about sunak apart from the accusations of privilege.

If his grandparents came here with nothing, presumably his parent grew up needing to work hard, and he’s not that far from working class?

I do find class and success tricky in the UK. My dad was a builder, my grandad a handyman, grandma worked in a shop and her husband was a wrong un. I went to independent school and to Oxbridge. Where would I sit if I were foolish enough to be a politician? Privileged? Working class?

Surely you went to one or the other?