Sunak’s concession speech wtf?

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“Today power will change hands in a peaceful and orderly manner”

Was their ever any doubt? Why say it? Was it a dig at Gordon Brown?

I just find it jarring.

He broke the law - twice - and thought he was better than anyone else. FFS he doesn’t deserve sympathy in the slightest, open your eyes. Also he is a massive proponent of pulling up the ladder. He believes in the Rwanda policy - disgusting.

It’s an acknowledgment of the fact we live in an increasingly unstable world and party politics aside, we must hold our democracy dear. Nigel Farage and Reform have been courting Trump and have seen a meteoric rise in popularity and there are countries around the world that want to undermine our democracy so it’s absolutely relevant to the UK. He made a related point about it being unremarkable that he was an Asian PM and that’s the kind of country we should strive to continue to be.

The only decent thing he’s did was the leaving speech tbh. Good riddance to him but I can’t find much fault in the speech.

I completely agree with this. A rare show of genuine mutual respect and gratitude for service to the constituency and in central government between Robert Buckland and Heidi Alexander. Buckland's words to his party about serving country over party machinations were also very powerful.

Who actually gives a shit about the leaving speeches? Their time is done. Their ability to change things is over. Anybody can make pretty speeches, it's what they do/did when it mattered - was any of that dignified? Respectful? Inclusive?

I don't know any of the politicians but I do know that they don't live in the real world, are not affected by the impacts of current living that so many of us are. Because of that, what they say really doesn't matter to me.

It should not be so laborious to get bad governments/politicians out. Our whole political system badly needs an overhaul - and manifestos should be legally binding; you said it, you do it.

I worry we are still very finely poised on the brink of disaster. I really do. It would be so easy to let sniping, winning at all costs, bullish partisan behaviour undermine orderliness.

I mean, dull and orderly is starting to look really attractive and undervalued right now!

Bring back boring. Off with charm and charisma. Down with purity spirals. Let’s just be sensible and - wait for it- cooperative!

Well since it didn’t need saying and was a given I’d rather he didn’t say it, wouldn’t that have been the most gracious way?

'Dangerous president' is a brilliant typo! 😂

“I don't know any of the politicians but I do know that they don't live in the real world, are not affected by the impacts of current living that so many of us are. “

I give you, Lee Anderson. All you could wish for in an MP, I’m sure.

No, you don’t need to make point about USA, much closer to home

i assume he was making a point that no one had been murdered like Joe cox and David Amess. Because he sure got it wrong that it was all sweetness and light

Did you not hear what was going on when Jess Philips results read.
hardly a peaceful handover of power. nasty
looked like she was close to breaking which I had never seen before.

clearly many women MPs were subject, again, to abuse and threats. You could see Jess frustration with not being able to bring Jo’s family or her own children to the results, and the young women getting her tyres slashed.

he missed a whole raft of MPs who DID feel threatened and intimidated

deaf ears again - but he never seemed to be well informed of what goes on in real world where people are not wealthy, entitled and protected.

Sunak, and Buckland in Swindon, behaved admirably as did a few others. ‘Nothing became as much in life as the leaving of it’ though of course it’s leaving office not being bumped off as in Macbeth.
Manners cost nothing and both he and Starmer showed old fashioned decency as people and yes were underlining that in contrast to Trump boorishness and Truss petulance. Two murdered MPs is enough for this century

I'll revise my post to 'party leaders' then. My own MP is great. He's said many times in response that he agrees because x, y, z - but I don't know what power he actually has. So Lee Anderson is possibly in the same boat.

This was also my response to it; we have made the USA look like some nutty tin pot dictatorship.

I'm die-hard Labour but Rishi did go up a point or two in my estimation for the humility of his speech earlier. Doesn't excuse any of the damage he and his cronies did, but I think it was appropriately worded. Can't imagine Boris saying any of that if he'd still been PM.

Why read more into it than what there is. It was a dignified concession and a celebration of our democracy. He wants to leave with integrity. Also, there was a political purpose as he has undertaken one last act of service to his party as its leader. He has offered himself as a lightning rod for all of the recriminations. It's generous of him, but when the histories are written, the loss was incurred because of partygate and the mini budget. It's a bad loss, but he can come out of it with his reputation intact.

His speech was dignified and sincere.

atleast he didn't put on that daft voice where it sounded like he was telling a bedtime story to a five year old.

Agree with this. I don’t like Rishi but he has handled it really well and has come across well.

It's the fact that it's not necessarily a given that makes it worth saying.

With people like Farage in the mix (remember him saying if the Brexit vote was lost by a small margin he wouldn't accept the result - funny how he accepted the result fine when the tiny margin was in the other direction) a peaceful, civilised hand over of power should never be taken for granted.

I thought it was dignified and showed how you should respond to the result in a democratic process. May have been in reference to what went on with Trump. However, I recall after the last election that my Facebook was awash with events created to storm Downing Street to kick the Tories out because people believed they didn’t have a mandate to stay in power due to low vote share so we aren’t immune to people trying to generate extreme reactions in this country either.

A sane voice at last

Probably didn't get enough benefits under the tories ...

OFGS grow up OP 🙄

It was a welcome change from his petulant whining and it was good to see him being grown up and dignified. I suspect that he is secretly relieved it is decisively over. I also thought that Starmer was respectful in acknowledging that it was a positive thing for the country to have an Asian PM.

This absolutely

I am a Labour voter never Conservative however I felt it was a dig at the way Trump showed of denied the results then inciting riots. Just glad I live in the UK not the USA