Voting in an hour - tell me why I shouldn’t vote reform

[Wentie]

This isn’t a wind up. I’ve done countless different quiz type things and the policies I most align to come out strongly reform. I would previously have been a Tory voter. I don’t like farage and I do feel prejudiced against reform from what is portrayed in the media - but their policies appeal to me. Anyone have any actual facts or glaring holes that I might have missed?

Except on immigration, I also think a lot of their policies sound great.

They have absolutely no way of achieving the majority of them however. Plus I could never vote for Farage. What the overall party stands for also does not align with my beliefs.

Because Nigel Farage is worse than the tories and doesn't give a flying frig about the normal peasants. If you're not bothered about having an NHS and like to be kept in your place whilst the richest 1% line their own pockets then go ahead. The benefit for the rest of us might be that it'll divide the right wing vote in your constituency and let someone who cares about the wider population in as your MP

Farage is a fan of Andrew Tate. That on his own should be enough to stop you voting for him.

I hope you realise that the death penalty is the most expensive option, unless perhaps you're planning to imitate China or Somalia and introduce summary executions without a proper trial and no right of appeal. If you're worried about tax payers subsidising criminals (I take it you've never been in a Category A prison?), just bear in mind that you'd be paying more to have a death penalty.

They are anti human rights and are planning to scrap the Equality Act which would fuck over millions (myself included) and for the large part women. That I cannot get behind.

One of their MPs described Autistic people as vegetables. That's enough to make me not vote for them

@Motomum23 you’re seriously voting for a party because of ONE of their policies. If you are a mum, then surely other things are just as important to you such as making sure schools and hospitals run efficiently? What are they going to do to make this happen?

For someone who is ‘irrelvant’, he certainly gets people frothing…

If you’re an ignorant wee bigot who hates everyone who isn’t a white man then go ahead, they’re definitely speaking your language

Because they have established themselves, cynically, to become appealing to the far-right who feel let down by the Conservatives. Often the elderly or supporters of the National Front.

Far Right and Far Left never have happy endings. Both are as bad as each other.

Reform are just bar room bores whose only aim was to spear the Tories.
They will never be a serious opposition so you're wasting your vote.

If you have read and understood their policies and believe those align with what you personally stand for, more than any other party, please vote for them.

Read their policies properly. Apart from the inherent bigotry, they would cost billions of pounds to implement and would bankrupt the country within week.

Yeah we should just pipe down complaining about racism, misogynism, lies by politicians etc.

Chill and vote for extreme right-wingers 🙄. Oh, and fuck public services and the poor.

Because between 1939 and 1945 the country fought a war against these sort of people?

Or don't

No it's not the only policy I agree with. And I have seen absolutely no labour policies that tell you HOW they intend to save the NHS or find a bazillion more teachers - just empty words.

I don't like politicians in general - garaged is no better or worse than starmer or sunak- they are all a bunch of entitled overpaid w's imo but at least a protest vote might incite real change rather than the other side of the current bum cheek

It’s uncanny. Plenty of people supported them, lured in with promises of ‘strong’ nationalism and a roll back of any kind of change or modernisation.

They want a world where white straight men ‘benevolently’ decide that’s best for everyone else. That’s not a world I want to live in. Women voting for Reform are voting for a future where they are 2nd best to men, where they lose their bodily autonomy and where their daughters will need to know their place to get on in life.

What they write on paper and who they are in practise may not be the same thing

Some of what they write is suitably vague and what really matters is how they intend to get there

As a trite example we can reduce nhs waiting lists by ... closing the nhs, closing lists and making people go private or by spending more on it - if spending more whilst raising less taxes that is clearly not believable. If they argue "efficiency gains" / well that's what the tories have been doing for the last 14 years .. so what exactly is the plan ?

Brilliant 😂

And agree with every word!!!

Sums it up. But you do you!

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Labour it's pretty clear will be looking at some of the taxes that don't affect workin people

Because their modus operandi is to manipulate your emotions to gain power, without actually coming up with workable, costed solutions to the problems they claim they will solve. Some of the problems they claim to exist also aren’t there at all or are widely exaggerated or intentionally misleading - for example our problem with immigration is very little to do with the boats.

If Brexit hasn’t already taught you that then nothing will help you.

So what do you think about the guy who was in prison for 17 years for a rape that he demonstrably didn't commit because the police and the CPS lied? Does he not matter, because he'd be dead now?

Or is he collateral damage.

His mum loved and defended him. How would you feel if it happened to your child? And no he didn't have a criminal background and was a normal bloke.