To think most peoole are racist and scared of " other%."

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Judging by the conversations I overheard about the election today. It was all " stop the boats" and the uk is too attractive a place to live coz benefits 😂"
No wonder Farage is so poular and La Penn is gauning traction in France.

It's pointless telking oeoplat immigrants have a great work ethic generally and that the UK should be an attractive pkace to live and that the UK raped and colonised the world etc.

There were 67,337 applications for asylum in the UK in 2023. And 33% (22k) were rejected,

Who do you have a problem with the 22k rejected cases and the people that have to return to their country of origin? Or the 45k that were allowed to stay?
And why is this figure more important to you then the 685,000 of immigrants allowed by the UK to enter the UK?

And which of those are not giving back to the country?

Surveys of immigrants consistently show that the vast majority want to be allowed to work and contribute to the UK.

The benefits aren't enough because too much public money is give to the scroungers who come here looking for a free ride

The crowd of young immigrants housed in a hotel near me who down cans of cheap beer and smoke in the car park outside while they whistle and jeer at the locals surely shouldn't be there.

The infrastructure cannot support the population we have already!

I think these are the two reasons that people are unhappy about increased immigration.

TRIGGER WARNING
https://metro.co.uk/2024/06/27/iraqi-girl-16-choked-death-raped-sinking-migrant-boat-21119230/amp/

and this

https://trustforlondon.org.uk/data/worklessness-ethnicity/#:~:text=39.5%25%20of%20working%2Dage%20Londoners,of%20Indian%20background%20at%2021.5%25.

to save people clicking this states that nearly 40% of Bangladeshi/pakistani people in the capital of working age do not work. The stat is much lower for both white and Indian people.

very few people object to immigrants who come and make a positive contribution but unfortunately there is a large group who take advantage of our hospitality.

Who do you have a problem with the 22k rejected cases and the people that have to return to their country of origin? Or the 45k that were allowed to stay?

All of them. The processing is a massive waste of time and resources and money regardless of the outcome

I think trafficking is a problem and it will increase with the policy we’re about to see

So you have a problem with all refugees?

Exactly this. Some basic reading would show the majority of people who have posted so far how little they have understood the situation.

Because they're not allowed to work, it's a condition of their bail.

As for benefits not being enough 🙄 They've never been enough - and as for the scroungers, there's no shortage of the home grown variety so that's horseshit.

To think most people are racism and scared of other

Sadly, it looks like you are right. In fact almost every country polled in the world is more racist than the UK, or less accepting of immigrants.

www.kcl.ac.uk/policy-institute/assets/love-thy-neighbour.pdf

Most people want the boats stopped because the majority of the people on the boats appear to be young fit men in their 20s who are said to have paid thousands of pounds to get here. If the boats carried genuine refugees: poverty stricken, vulnerable women, children, disabled people etc fleeing active war zones, people wouldn’t be so upset by it. It’s because we are clearly being mugged off that people are annoyed about it.

Quite.

2% of people in the UK would not like to live next to someone of a different race, 5% next to an immigrant.

These are some of the lowest (ie most accepting) figures in the world.

So yes, while there is a huge amount of racism and dislike of outsiders in the world, a disproportionately tiny fraction of it is in the UK.

Please stop tarring people who want less immigration as bigots.

As someone who wants lots of immigration, I can tell you that nothing alienates people from that cause more than being smeared as racists. Sure, some are (about 2%, KCL reckons). Most aren't, and you will find them a lot more open to debate if you don't start off with a moral insult.

*BeardofHagrid *

100% no was bothered by Ukrainian refugees because we knew they were mostly women and children as the men had stayed to fight.
someone will be along to say it’s because they are white but it’s really not.
as you said if these countries are so awful and unsafe why are the men deserting the women and children there?

Although I come across a fair few traumatised people with families trapped in war zones, I have known 'refugees' who return to their unsafe countries to have their teeth fixed or other operations because it's better and cheaper than the UK.

That figure for Pakistani people is driven by women, as many Pakistani women are SAHMs.

I think more Pakistani women should be encouraged to work but dismissing these women as not making a positive contribution is without taking into account the reasons for their exclusion from the workforce is a bit facile.

Sorry, you live in such a racist area, OP. Definitely not my experience.

Racism and concerns over illegal immigration are not the same thing.
No, I don't think most people are racist either.

Yes because vulnerable people tend to cope really well with illicit journeys moths long don't they? You want grandma to take the baby and the blind uncle to traverse Europe in the back of a lorry, then hop onto a dinghy across the channel? Would that make uou happy? Or would you prefer they all just surrender?
Why is it all young men? Because they're less likely to be killed, raped or drowned and more likely to make some money when they get here.
If you want the most vulnerable here, ask for safe and legal routes. If you don't want any here, just own it and say so.

Plus, racism/fear of others just is a very common human feeling. Having lived in many countries I can tell you it's far, far more common in almost every other country than here.

Ironically, if you wanted fewer racists in the UK, the KCL data suggests that keeping people out from everywhere except Brazil and Sweden would help.

Do you know which country has the highest net migration per capita ( people leaving their country to live elsewhere)?

the UK.

just saying.

also this country was BUILT on stealing people and resources form elsewhere. It still is. Who runs your care home or administers your medicine? Migrants.

just saying.

also as a migrant myself, we aren’t all plebs with no education on benefits. Plenty of migrants are highly educated and experienced. My grandma was a refugee. She has a PhD. I remember her going on about bogus asylum seekers and I was like hey ‘they are talking about you’.

check out Empireland for a really good historical education on how Britain needed migrants to be what it is now.

Illegal immigrants don't benefit from public money. Sure, it might be used to shove them in detention camps but - and I'm so tired of saying this - illegal immigrants cannot claim benefits. Not a penny. Because they came here illegally. They are not getting 'luxury housing', they are not getting to 'sponge off the state', they are not entitled to anything.

People are not racist but talking common sense. Do not pile all the immigrants together. People are talking about criminals coming here brought by smugglers who are themselves making millions to cross people here. Racism is used to shut people who highlight these issues. In reality these are very valid arguments specially if you have children and see how unsafe the country has become. It is getting really tiresome. Also, even in the case of asylum seekers or refugees why do you think everyone would want to pay taxes to support the people who has not had add to the country yet. While at the same neglecting our communities and services, I pay taxes to benefit my family and community not third countries mass immigration wherever is the case. We are becoming much poorer and even culturally backwards as a result of this non sense. They in any case need housing, food, resources so let’s just be honest. If they cannot work they are likely to commit crimes to survive.

Racist immigrant here. Stop the boats. Yes, I voted reform.
One has to be extremely stupid to think that every one concerned about the state of immigration in the UK is racist.

I think if trafficking keeps going up, which is likely now, we’ll see more strain and push back