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To think this nurse shouldn't have laughed / scoffed at me for asking for a room?

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supertrainers · 25/06/2024 18:20

Last night at 3 am I had to take my DD to a and e as she was struggling with her breathing.

Unfortunately this coincided with me having been up all night already vomiting. Second night in a row. It's not a stomach bug, before anyone says I shouldn't have taken my child to the hospital.

I was feeling absolutely rotten. Two nights of no sleep, worry for my DD. Pain, nausea. Everything.

I'm familiar with the hospital as I have found myself many times in there with one of my children in the middle of the night.

Most of the time, we get offered a room, once we've been triaged. Not always, but more often than not. The room has a bed in it and we just stay in there and the doctors come in and out.

I said to the triage nurse last night that I was also feeling extremely unwell and are there any rooms we could possibly wait in. I said I'm sorry for asking and I wouldn't ask unless I really needed to.

She did a scoff / laugh at me for even asking. 9 times out of 10 we have a room and you scoff at me ? I was taken aback by it and in my horrible state for her to just laugh / scoff at me was super rude. I told her, I understand but I really don't appreciate you laughing at me for even asking. I'm really unwell and I wouldn't ask you. It's not very nice that you laughed.

She denied laughing at me. I left it at that and went and sat on the plastic chairs for 6 hours.

OP posts:
MummyJ36 · 25/06/2024 19:12

OP it’s hard to know if this is reasonable or not without really knowing your joint medical issues which of course is your right your right to not disclose. Nor is it your fault that the NHS is severely understaffed and underfunded. However, taking these two things into account, perhaps you could give the nurse a bit of grace and perhaps understand why she gave you the response she did. I’m not saying it’s polite, or even professional, but it is likely coming from a place of high stress and exhaustion.

Just because you’ve have a bed a few times doesn’t mean they will always have one every time you go. It is not personal, they just likely genuinely didn’t have a bed. It is never nice to be on the receiving end of bad / under par medical care but please try and see why both of you have reacted the way you did. She was stressed and exhausted and so were you.

TomatoSandwiches · 25/06/2024 19:12

lemonmeringueno3 · 25/06/2024 19:09

You sound ridiculously indignant that someone might have laughed at something you said.

Yes, she should have been professional, polite, kind and patient.

But she was a nurse in A&E at 3am with a six hour wait and a non-urgent case asking for their own room. Just attempt a tiny bit of empathy and let it go. You might even have been short with one of your own customers, colleagues or clients at some point.

No, Nurses are the ones that should have empathy, enough to not laugh at an unwell mother with an unwell child who was being polite and making a simple request.

Why are people ok with letting shit like this slide? It's not ok.

countcalculia · 25/06/2024 19:13

I wasn't mean about how I held her to account, but I did.

There was nothing to hold her to account for. Get a grip.

supertrainers · 25/06/2024 19:13

Greengrapeofhome · 25/06/2024 19:08

I suppose if your child had been triaged and didn’t need to be admitted to a ward then they weren’t priority for a room- I don’t think they’d take you feeling sick into account when it’s children’s A and E and the children are the priority. She shouldn’t have scoffed but she was probably knackered

My child was actually seen by a doctor at triage immediately.

We saw doctors three times in that time and we were there for 6 hours for observations.

OP posts:
TooLateForRoses · 25/06/2024 19:13

TwattyMcFuckFace · 25/06/2024 18:37

Ok but why are you still thinking about it now?

Someone scoffed, she might have also inwardly rolled her eyes.

But it's done now, I wouldn't give it all this head space.

I'm sure she isn't.

Yeah this. Let it gooooo

MissMoneyFairy · 25/06/2024 19:14

No wonder nurses are leaving in droves, if something like this got reported to PALS instead of maybe just talking with the department manager, if it happened like this, then I'd say eff this, I don't need this shit and pack my bags.,

TooLateForRoses · 25/06/2024 19:14

supertrainers · 25/06/2024 19:11

@TeapotTitties yes I just completely made it up for shits and giggles. Of course she laughed! Then she denied it when I held her to account.

I wasn't mean about how I held her to account, but I did.

She was surprised because she never expected that from me, because I'm usually extremely polite with her. She's can be a bit of a grump and I always remain super super polite with her and never challenge her. There have been other times her bed side manner wasn't the best. Nothing extreme, but another person may have reacted in a similar curt manner. I never do that with her.

She was taken a back that I stood up to her and of course she immediately denied it.

But no I am definitely not making a complaint about it.

You have a vendetta against this nurse.

supertrainers · 25/06/2024 19:14

MissMoneyFairy · 25/06/2024 19:14

No wonder nurses are leaving in droves, if something like this got reported to PALS instead of maybe just talking with the department manager, if it happened like this, then I'd say eff this, I don't need this shit and pack my bags.,

I would never report this.

OP posts:
countcalculia · 25/06/2024 19:15

TomatoSandwiches · 25/06/2024 19:12

No, Nurses are the ones that should have empathy, enough to not laugh at an unwell mother with an unwell child who was being polite and making a simple request.

Why are people ok with letting shit like this slide? It's not ok.

She didn’t laugh at a mother, she laughed at someone asking for a room. If there was a room free they would have offered it.

countcalculia · 25/06/2024 19:15

TooLateForRoses · 25/06/2024 19:14

You have a vendetta against this nurse.

Yep that’s coming through.

Needmorelego · 25/06/2024 19:15

@Jadedbuthappy82 the OP said in her first post that her child had breathing difficulties.
Have you never heard of children who have asthma who are regularly in and out of A+E?
Not unusual.

SandandSky · 25/06/2024 19:16

If you would never report it, are always so polite and understanding and you addressed it with her there and then they whyyyyyyy are you still het up about it enough to post it on the internet?

TomatoSandwiches · 25/06/2024 19:16

MissMoneyFairy · 25/06/2024 19:14

No wonder nurses are leaving in droves, if something like this got reported to PALS instead of maybe just talking with the department manager, if it happened like this, then I'd say eff this, I don't need this shit and pack my bags.,

Good, they shouldn't be in the job is they're laughing at people in these situations.

TooLateForRoses · 25/06/2024 19:17

SandandSky · 25/06/2024 19:16

If you would never report it, are always so polite and understanding and you addressed it with her there and then they whyyyyyyy are you still het up about it enough to post it on the internet?

Yes what is it you seek OP?

Cerealkiller4U · 25/06/2024 19:18

grapesstrawberriesplease · 25/06/2024 18:53

Sorry but how entitled do you sound?! Everyone there will (should!!!) be having a life threatening emergency or have had a terrible accident. Count yourself lucky that you and your child were physically and mentally able to ‘sit in the plastic chairs’.

In fact, count yourself lucky that you’re physically and mentally able to be sat posting on Mumsnet after a trip to A&E. Many people who find themselves there (people who genuinely need to be seen urgently and can’t just wait until they see a GP) either end up admitted long term due to injuries, operated on, admitted overnight for observations or sadly don’t even make it home at all.

This is such a first world thing to be worried about.

Friends of mine niece just died of a brain Ty our and spent many months at the jospital

there’s no way she’d be able to even stand at the end and these rooms are usually for people like her.

TomatoSandwiches · 25/06/2024 19:19

I suspect OP I still aggrieved because she's been polite to this nurse many times before and has been treated with a bit of contempt in a difficult situation when she expected ( quite rightly ) some compassion and was then lied to.

I'm sure if she just apologised and said said it had been a hard night op wouldn't posting here.

Some of you really have awful standards and expectations and think too highly of anyone in a medical setting/uniform.

greenpolarbear · 25/06/2024 19:19

Explain to me like I'm 5 why waiting in a different room is better.

(when you aren't contagious or scaring people because your arm is hanging off or something)

supertrainers · 25/06/2024 19:19

SandandSky · 25/06/2024 19:16

If you would never report it, are always so polite and understanding and you addressed it with her there and then they whyyyyyyy are you still het up about it enough to post it on the internet?

To be honest I'm a bit bored right now and I was genuinely curious how many people would agree she was rude vs how many people would slate me for even asking.

I just find it interesting.

I don't really care about the situation that much.
The nurse fucked up though. We are all human though, shit happens.

OP posts:
Greengrapeofhome · 25/06/2024 19:19

supertrainers · 25/06/2024 19:13

My child was actually seen by a doctor at triage immediately.

We saw doctors three times in that time and we were there for 6 hours for observations.

Yes so like I said, after triage they weren’t needing to be admitted to a ward. So probably were not a priority for a room.

Saffrony · 25/06/2024 19:19

supertrainers · 25/06/2024 19:13

My child was actually seen by a doctor at triage immediately.

We saw doctors three times in that time and we were there for 6 hours for observations.

The child was the patient not you though and he/ she didn’t need a room. Why does anybody ‘need’ a room in A&E?

Cerealkiller4U · 25/06/2024 19:20

supertrainers · 25/06/2024 19:01

I don't need to get into the personal details about why we need to go to a and e.

We have our reason and they're legitimate.

We stayed 6 hours for observations today. The wait to see the doctor wasn't that long at all today thankfully. But we needed to stay to be observed.

I'm not entitled, it's the way our a and e works and it's never usually a problem and no one scoffs or laughs at us.

I get the staff are under pressure but so are we.

I'm always extremely polite to everyone and I didn't deserve that today. End of.

I mean

im surprised you’re still thinking of it

you asked. She said no. You were seen. You went home.

shrug.

Needmorelego · 25/06/2024 19:21

@greenpolarbear why is it better than the main waiting room?
Quieter and you can switch the lights off.

TomatoSandwiches · 25/06/2024 19:21

Cerealkiller4U · 25/06/2024 19:18

Friends of mine niece just died of a brain Ty our and spent many months at the jospital

there’s no way she’d be able to even stand at the end and these rooms are usually for people like her.

Sorry about that but you're wrong, there are many different types of rooms/bays/beds that are utilised and op wasn't asking for the type you are talking about.

Soontobe60 · 25/06/2024 19:22

supertrainers · 25/06/2024 18:25

This was children's a and e.

That makes no difference. And no, you should not have gone if you had been vomiting for 2 nights. Did you ring for an ambulance? Or 111?

idcatall · 25/06/2024 19:23

I don't think there's any harm or entitlement in what you asked- esp since you said you usually are given a room to wait in. My experience with hospital staff and nurses in general has been negative overall and they tend to have an attitude even if you're polite. I do try and empathise as they're all rushed off their feet and under pressure, but I don't really understand how that equates to being rude and disrespectful. Seems like a lot of nasty people decide to work in healthcare which is beyond me!